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Norm Peterson

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Now that options for adding a player who will be immediately eligible seem to have dissipated and the roster for next year looks fairly stable, thought I'd check and see what our returning experience looks like.  Here are some numbers.

 

5  Number of players with returning minutes.

 

55.2  Averaged number of career games played among returning players.

 

160  Number of career starts among returning players.

 

276  Number of career games played among returning players.

 

96  Most career games played of any returning player (Benny Parker).

 

89  Combined career games played by returning non-seniors (Webster, Fuller, Hammond)

 

82  Most career starts of any returning player (Shavon Shields).

 

35  Total combined career starts by returning players not named Parker or Shields.

 

3  The number of returning players with more than 16 career games under their belts.

Norm Peterson

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My takeaway is that experience tends to be an underrated factor in determining success.  Players with more of it have an advantage over even more-talented players with less of it. 

 

Shavon Shields has the most of it, but he'd be starting no matter what.

 

So, you look at our freshmen coming in and you say, yeah, they're highly-recruited and all, but those kinds of players don't necessarily always come in and start right off the bat.  They don't just automatically leapfrog players in front of them with more experience.

 

And that is certainly true.

 

But who do we have in front of Ed Morrow?

 

What returning player with more experience is going to keep him off the floor?

 

Bottom line?  I'm saying the newcomers are going to play early and often.

49r

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This year is going to be a lot like 2012.  Lots of youth.

 

The good news, however, is the freshmen this year are a whole lot more talented than the ones that year....and you all know how I feel about the Shields kid.

AuroranHusker

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This year is going to be a lot like 2012.  Lots of youth.

 

The good news, however, is the freshmen this year are a whole lot more talented than the ones that year....and you all know how I feel about the Shields kid.

 

We know about the restraining order, if that's what you mean.... ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All kidding aside, Shields should be a great leader for these youn'guns to follow. Looking forward to the upcoming season of 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.s'

Huskerpapa

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Well, Golden State is winning while playing small and while having little if any "big game" experience.  Then again, they are exceptional at shooting the ball and defending...

uneblinstu

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Glynn Watson, for sure, will be on the court quite a bit...

I probably wouldn't assume he'll carry a huge burden right out of the gate. There will be a lot of competition for minutes in the back court. Parker's gonna get his minutes. Webster/Watson/Evelyn will be battling it out for the rest. I don't think it's automatic that GW gets the bulk of those. I think that competition will be pretty fierce.

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Glynn Watson, for sure, will be on the court quite a bit...

I probably wouldn't assume he'll carry a huge burden right out of the gate. There will be a lot of competition for minutes in the back court. Parker's gonna get his minutes. Webster/Watson/Evelyn will be battling it out for the rest. I don't think it's automatic that GW gets the bulk of those. I think that competition will be pretty fierce.

 

Do you think Watson will be as good as, say, Cookie Miller as a freshman?  Here are Cookie's stats as a freshman, on a 20 win team:

26.6 mpg, 6.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.9 spg, 2.1 tpg, 38.4 FG%, 67.8 FT%, 24.6 3P%

 

Meanwhile, Benny's stats as a junior, on a 13 win team, were:

28.2 mpg, 4.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.7 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.2 tpg, 34.2 FG%, 71.4 FT%, 29.3 3P%

 

More tellingly, here are Benny's stats from the nine game losing streak at the end of the year.

24.0 mpg, 1.1 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.8 tpg, 12.0 FG%, 66.7 FT%, 00.0 3P%

 

In those last nine games Benny was 3-25 from the field, 0-9 on 3-pt attempts.  I know that he gives tremendous effort on defense, but I don't think that he's a lock to play significant minutes. 

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Glynn Watson, for sure, will be on the court quite a bit...

I probably wouldn't assume he'll carry a huge burden right out of the gate. There will be a lot of competition for minutes in the back court. Parker's gonna get his minutes. Webster/Watson/Evelyn will be battling it out for the rest. I don't think it's automatic that GW gets the bulk of those. I think that competition will be pretty fierce.

 

 

Yes, quite a bit, my friend, quite a bit.  Glynn wasn't brought into Nebrasketball to be a bench-warmer. Why did you think Tarin Smith left... to simply transfer to Duquesne? C'mon man, Miles told Tarin the truth: Glynn was brought in to run the show.

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Glynn Watson, for sure, will be on the court quite a bit...

I probably wouldn't assume he'll carry a huge burden right out of the gate. There will be a lot of competition for minutes in the back court. Parker's gonna get his minutes. Webster/Watson/Evelyn will be battling it out for the rest. I don't think it's automatic that GW gets the bulk of those. I think that competition will be pretty fierce.

 

Do you think Watson will be as good as, say, Cookie Miller as a freshman?  Here are Cookie's stats as a freshman, on a 20 win team:

26.6 mpg, 6.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.9 spg, 2.1 tpg, 38.4 FG%, 67.8 FT%, 24.6 3P%

 

Meanwhile, Benny's stats as a junior, on a 13 win team, were:

28.2 mpg, 4.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.7 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.2 tpg, 34.2 FG%, 71.4 FT%, 29.3 3P%

 

More tellingly, here are Benny's stats from the nine game losing streak at the end of the year.

24.0 mpg, 1.1 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.8 tpg, 12.0 FG%, 66.7 FT%, 00.0 3P%

 

In those last nine games Benny was 3-25 from the field, 0-9 on 3-pt attempts.  I know that he gives tremendous effort on defense, but I don't think that he's a lock to play significant minutes. 

 

From what I have read/heard/viewed as well as his overall ranking; I have much higher expectations for Mr. Watson then I had for either Benny or Cookie.  Quite frankly, we need to have Glynn be exponentially better.

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Bakari Evelyn is an intriguing side story at this point.  OK, the claim is if he'd stayed in Michigan, he'd have not been so under-the-radar (so why, then, did he move to Arizona?  To not get notice or attention?) and would have had more big-time offers. 

 

Some of the whispers suggest there may be some truth to that.

 

Still, I see Glynn as the guy with the inside track.  Benny has always been best as the energy spark off the bench.  Lock-down defender and spark off the bench.  He seems to thrive in that role.  But that leaves us in need of a starting point, and Glynn has the resume.

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I think the biggest question for me, going into next season, is how much improved will Jacob Hammond be?

 

We need him to be good enough to justify starter's minutes.  At the very worst, he has to be a key reserve, in the top 8 of the rotation.

 

If he doesn't crack the top 8 ...  <_<

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I think the biggest question for me, going into next season, is how much improved will Jacob Hammond be?

 

We need him to be good enough to justify starter's minutes.  At the very worst, he has to be a key reserve, in the top 8 of the rotation.

 

If he doesn't crack the top 8 ...  <_<

Amen!

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Glynn Watson, for sure, will be on the court quite a bit...

I probably wouldn't assume he'll carry a huge burden right out of the gate. There will be a lot of competition for minutes in the back court. Parker's gonna get his minutes. Webster/Watson/Evelyn will be battling it out for the rest. I don't think it's automatic that GW gets the bulk of those. I think that competition will be pretty fierce.

 

Do you think Watson will be as good as, say, Cookie Miller as a freshman?  Here are Cookie's stats as a freshman, on a 20 win team:

26.6 mpg, 6.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.9 spg, 2.1 tpg, 38.4 FG%, 67.8 FT%, 24.6 3P%

 

Meanwhile, Benny's stats as a junior, on a 13 win team, were:

28.2 mpg, 4.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.7 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.2 tpg, 34.2 FG%, 71.4 FT%, 29.3 3P%

 

More tellingly, here are Benny's stats from the nine game losing streak at the end of the year.

24.0 mpg, 1.1 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.8 tpg, 12.0 FG%, 66.7 FT%, 00.0 3P%

 

In those last nine games Benny was 3-25 from the field, 0-9 on 3-pt attempts.  I know that he gives tremendous effort on defense, but I don't think that he's a lock to play significant minutes. 

 

No idea. Miller didn't have the competition GW will have for playing time. I'm not saying he won't contribute, but I'm also not saying it's a lock he's going to play 26 minutes a game either with the other options Miles has at the position. That's a good thing, btw. I think he'll be big contributor, I'm just gonna temper my expectations that he's going to be the one mixing the ingredients from the get go.

 

 

 

Glynn Watson, for sure, will be on the court quite a bit...

I probably wouldn't assume he'll carry a huge burden right out of the gate. There will be a lot of competition for minutes in the back court. Parker's gonna get his minutes. Webster/Watson/Evelyn will be battling it out for the rest. I don't think it's automatic that GW gets the bulk of those. I think that competition will be pretty fierce.

 

 

Yes, quite a bit, my friend, quite a bit.  Glynn wasn't brought into Nebrasketball to be a bench-warmer. Why did you think Tarin Smith left... to simply transfer to Duquesne? C'mon man, Miles told Tarin the truth: Glynn was brought in to run the show.

 

It's not that simple with TS, but it's part of it, sure. I don't expect Glynn to warm the bench, never even intimated that. 

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I think the biggest question for me, going into next season, is how much improved will Jacob Hammond be?

 

We need him to be good enough to justify starter's minutes.  At the very worst, he has to be a key reserve, in the top 8 of the rotation.

 

If he doesn't crack the top 8 ...  <_<

 

Yep, that would be a good deal for Jacob... & the team as a whole. He might even be on *TV*! ;)

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Glynn Watson, for sure, will be on the court quite a bit...

I probably wouldn't assume he'll carry a huge burden right out of the gate. There will be a lot of competition for minutes in the back court. Parker's gonna get his minutes. Webster/Watson/Evelyn will be battling it out for the rest. I don't think it's automatic that GW gets the bulk of those. I think that competition will be pretty fierce.

 

 

Yes, quite a bit, my friend, quite a bit.  Glynn wasn't brought into Nebrasketball to be a bench-warmer. Why did you think Tarin Smith left... to simply transfer to Duquesne? C'mon man, Miles told Tarin the truth: Glynn was brought in to run the show.

 

It's not that simple with TS, but it's part of it, sure. I don't expect Glynn to warm the bench, never even intimated that. 

 

 

And I never mentioned the "bulk" of the playing time, either. So, it certainly goes both ways in 'perception' of what is being intimated, doesn't it? Time will tell how much PT Glynn receives in relation to the supporting cast in the back court...

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I think the biggest question for me, going into next season, is how much improved will Jacob Hammond be?

 

We need him to be good enough to justify starter's minutes.  At the very worst, he has to be a key reserve, in the top 8 of the rotation.

 

If he doesn't crack the top 8 ...  <_<

Amen!

If Hammonds could pick up some of Fuller's grit, I could see a Fuller/Hammonds pairing at C depending upon match up.

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