Guarding Doug Mcdermott

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Two part question:

 

(1) what is the best strategy to contain him? Seems to me from random observations that to have a shot, one must stay on their feet, contest everything, and keep him off of the line. Easier said than done but if you think you are going to block his shot, he is either going to go around you or draw a foul, which is the worst thing than can happen. Secondly, I think we need to make him put the ball on the floor. Guy has grown into a legitimate spot up three point shooter. I would much rather have us close out & make him put the ball on the floor, this will force help to rotate but I would much rather have any other Jay (besides maybe wragge) shooting instead of Doug.

 

(2) Who do you start on him? & who do you rotate? I believe Leslee & Walt don't have the foot quickness and Benny, Tai, ray, & Deverell don't have the height. That leaves Terran, Shavon, & David Rivers. The fear is the rate at which shavon picks up fouls and the insane amount that Terran leaves his feet, especially with the quick whistles I know will be at the Century Link on sunday. Ideally. Rivers checks him and forces him to take contested shots with Terran/Shavon checking him as neccesarry.

 

Your thoughts?

[Buglem]

I agree. I think Rivers starts and guards him. He plays solid D and the advantage is that if he gets in foul trouble it doesn't take a big offensive threat off the court like it would if Shields or Petteway guarded him.

[jimmykc]

He'll score 30 and be the beneficiary of every questionable call no matter who guards him.

[Buglem]

Jimmy you're probably right. Another question, who will HE guard? He's not a good defensive player and rarely gets in foul trouble but with the guys he could have to guard, they are most good at driving to the hole. Would be great if we could get him in foul trouble but it's unlikely because he's not that aggressive on D.

[hhcmatt]

Jimmy you're probably right. Another question, who will HE guard? He's not a good defensive player and rarely gets in foul trouble but with the guys he could have to guard, they are most good at driving to the hole. Would be great if we could get him in foul trouble but it's unlikely because he's not that aggressive on D.

 

If Rivers is in the game to guard him....Rivers.

If he's guarding Petteway that's a dream scenario.

[Norm Peterson]

He may just get his points regardless so, like basketball jones said yesterday, work to stop everyone else.  McDermott alone will score a lot of points, but not enough to beat you by himself.  Obviously you try to slow him down, but keep everyone else from getting open looks.  And hope that Doug has an off night shooting.  I suspect Miles is pouring over film as we speak.

[TheGov21]

If I was Miles I'd start with Pettaway on him and then throw different people at him at different times.  But Pettaway is probably the best option.  Pettaway has the length to challenge him and the athletic ability to stick with him.  But I would put Pichford on him at times, and even Biggs here there.  Rivers should see the floor again and probably get the assignment too.

 

I'd also force McDermott to get most of his baskets at the rim.  Run him off the 3 point line and try to take away the pull up jumper.

[49r]

Peltz.  Just hack the living crap out of him.  Maybe we can get him hurt!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(that was for you CU lurkers)  

[kldm64]

The problem is you can't focus all your attention on McDermott (or according to Leslie Smith...whatever his name is) because Wragge will kill you if you do.  He has been shooting lights out.  If he gets hot, he is just as dangerous as McDermott.

[colhusker]

Let Doogie get his 30, stop the others.

 

Was Rivers hurt the other night?

[hhcmatt]

The problem is you can't focus all your attention on McDermott (or according to Leslie Smith...whatever his name is) because Wragge will kill you if you do.  He has been shooting lights out.  If he gets hot, he is just as dangerous as McDermott.

 

Considering that Pitch likes to pick up fouls in the paint and Wragge can be stopped by a mobile 4/5, doesn't it make sense on two levels to have Pitch stick on Wragge the entire game?

[royalfan]

Problem is Pitchford still one of our few capable rim protectors.  I think and hope he is better than he has shown.  But leaving him out on Wragge could waste that skill set.  It is a tricky thing to figure out how to best proceed.  Maybe that is the right answer anyway. 

[Norm Peterson]

I think we just switch every screen and let whoever's guarding Doug McD guard Doug McD.  Like it's going to matter.  If they run him behind a screen from Wragge, for instance, and Shavon was guarding Wragge and Petteway was guarding McD, I don't see how it'll make much difference if, after the switch, Petteway is now on Wragge and Shields on McD.  Eliminates that pick-and-pop that they probably get a lot of points from Wragge on.  McD is going to score anyway.  Spread the fouls around by not trying to box-and-one him or trying to keep the same guy on him all the time. 

 

But maybe have Peltz guard Grant Gibbs.  Petlz can bench press like 50 reps of Grant Gibbs.  Gibbs likes mixing it up.  I'll take Peltz in a street fight between those two.

[atskooc]

Dermie will get his, for sure.

 

He very well may get A LOT of his.  I'm guessing he wants this game pretty bad.

 

I think Norm has it...switch all the screens and try to shut the other guys down.

[uneblinstu]

Are chop blocks legal in basketball?

[Norm Peterson]

Dermie will get his, for sure.

 

He very well may get A LOT of his.  I'm guessing he wants this game pretty bad.

 

I think Norm has it...switch all the screens and try to shut the other guys down.

That's the thing.  We don't have a lot to brag about on this basketball squad but what we do have is a lot of 6'6" to 6'7" athletes who can cover on the floor.  That's our advantage.  Use it.

[Huskerpapa]

I am betting Petteway will want the challenge.  But you will see a lot of switches and likely others will also take their turn on him.

[lanigan123]

Norms right on. I think it will be important for us to go up and down the floor, we still lack guys who can come off curls and hit jumpers. We either get to the hoop or chuck threes.

[ladyhusker]

I loved the last time Mike Peltz was on Grant Gibbs. Gibbs got up with a scratched face and Peltz was pounding his chest like a roided-out ape. Made my whole day. Gibbs likes those stupid mind games (a la Wrist-gate with Henson in the NCAAs a couple years ago) but isn't particularly good once you get in HIS head. So if it's not Peltz on him, I'm hoping whoever it is finds enough maturity to ignore the little jabs Gibbs will be trying to get in (and maybe get a shot or two of his own in).

 

I'd let Ray chase Wragge around. He has the height Benny doesn't to keep Wragge from getting a shot off and doesn't usually pick up a ton of dumb fouls. I hope I'm not wrong, but I'm not terribly worried about anyone besides Wragge and McDermott. If you can take away Wragge, and play clean, I think you just let Doug score and make him beat you solo. (He still very well may, but it'll be a lot harder to do at least.)

[uneblinstu]

It'll be Shields on Wragge. Maybe Pitchford some, too.  Wragge's at least 5 inches taller than Gallegos.

[ladyhusker]

Isn't Diante Garrett quite a bit taller too, though? I recall Ray doing a pretty good job on him a while back. Different kind of player, but Ray's done OK guarding guys taller than he is, if I'm remembering right. Just with the rate that Shields picks up fouls, I'd hate to count on him to take on one of their key cogs (especially if he'd get three FTs every time, not just two). Ray is a little more solid defensively, or at least a little cleaner as far as the refs/new rules are concerned, and we need Shields to stay in the game.

 

I could see Pitchford there some too, though.

[royalfan]

Norms right on. I think it will be important for us to go up and down the floor, we still lack guys who can come off curls and hit jumpers. We either get to the hoop or chuck threes.

 

That is what is the best way to win IMO.  What you don't want to be doing are taking 2 point jump shots. 

[royalfan]

Isn't Diante Garrett quite a bit taller too, though? I recall Ray doing a pretty good job on him a while back. Different kind of player, but Ray's done OK guarding guys taller than he is, if I'm remembering right. Just with the rate that Shields picks up fouls, I'd hate to count on him to take on one of their key cogs (especially if he'd get three FTs every time, not just two). Ray is a little more solid defensively, or at least a little cleaner as far as the refs/new rules are concerned, and we need Shields to stay in the game.

 

I could see Pitchford there some too, though.

 

Garrett was much shorter than Wragge.  Not that it matters that much as I think Rey could guard Wragge if we so choose, but Garrett was about 6'3 or so I am pretty sure.  Was a nice player. 

[GoBigRed]

Isn't Diante Garrett quite a bit taller too, though? I recall Ray doing a pretty good job on him a while back. Different kind of player, but Ray's done OK guarding guys taller than he is, if I'm remembering right. Just with the rate that Shields picks up fouls, I'd hate to count on him to take on one of their key cogs (especially if he'd get three FTs every time, not just two). Ray is a little more solid defensively, or at least a little cleaner as far as the refs/new rules are concerned, and we need Shields to stay in the game.

I could see Pitchford there some too, though.

Wragge is a statue. He averages 1 free throw attempt per game this season. If we have issues with whoever is guarding him picking up fouls, then we have huge issues.

[hhcmatt]

It'll be Shields on Wragge. Maybe Pitchford some, too.  Wragge's at least 5 inches taller than Gallegos.

 

Out of those three I'd say Shields is the best rebounder so I'd rather not see him camped out at the 3 point line unless....

 

 

Wragge is a statue. He averages 1 free throw attempt per game this season. If we have issues with whoever is guarding him picking up fouls, then we have huge issues.

 

 

he is in foul trouble...then it's a decent place to park him.