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Doc Sadler not candidate for open KU asst position

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That should tell us something.

Considering that Self's last DoBO got hired as a head coach at another program, I'm not sure exactly what you'd be reading into that.

 

Norm it just furthers strengthens my view.  The last guy in that position got a new gig, Doc did not.  I will state I really wish things had worked out for Doc in Lincoln, he WANTED to be there and in my opinion would have stayed had things worked out.  That said, I was never impressed with his coaching or recruiting skills.  Self not hiring him tells me he may agree with my assessment.

Norm Peterson

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You might be right but there could be lots of things going on there, lots of other reasons he's not being promoted to assistant coach other than Self doesn't think he can coach, which I think is the conclusion you're suggesting.  Again, you might be right.  You might be wrong.  Not sure we can draw too many conclusions from this.

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That should tell us something.

Considering that Self's last DoBO got hired as a head coach at another program, I'm not sure exactly what you'd be reading into that.

 

Norm it just furthers strengthens my view.  The last guy in that position got a new gig, Doc did not.  I will state I really wish things had worked out for Doc in Lincoln, he WANTED to be there and in my opinion would have stayed had things worked out.  That said, I was never impressed with his coaching or recruiting skills.  Self not hiring him tells me he may agree with my assessment.

 

NO it doesn't. Doc's largely temporarily parking in the DOBO spot as he figures out what he wants to be when he grows up. He's not married to the K program in a way that you might expect an assistant to be when first hired. There's no indication that Sadler wanted an assistant slot (which would be the one piece of actual evidence which would support your conclusion) and every indication that his tenure helping Self out was similar in nature to Bo hanging out in Norman for a year or so with Stoops. The situations are pretty analogous.

Daledangdarn

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That should tell us something.

Considering that Self's last DoBO got hired as a head coach at another program, I'm not sure exactly what you'd be reading into that.

 

Norm it just furthers strengthens my view.  The last guy in that position got a new gig, Doc did not.  I will state I really wish things had worked out for Doc in Lincoln, he WANTED to be there and in my opinion would have stayed had things worked out.  That said, I was never impressed with his coaching or recruiting skills.  Self not hiring him tells me he may agree with my assessment.

 

NO it doesn't. Doc's largely temporarily parking in the DOBO spot as he figures out what he wants to be when he grows up. He's not married to the K program in a way that you might expect an assistant to be when first hired. There's no indication that Sadler wanted an assistant slot (which would be the one piece of actual evidence which would support your conclusion) and every indication that his tenure helping Self out was similar in nature to Bo hanging out in Norman for a year or so with Stoops. The situations are pretty analogous.

 

 

Doc is helping Self out?  I think you may have that one backwards, KU would be just fine sans a Doc Sadler.

Norm Peterson

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How about if tcp had said "assisting Self"?  Except that would probably have drawn the objection, "but he's not an assistant; he's the DoBO.  So, he's not really assisting." 

 

How about "working for Self"?  "Every indication that his tenure helping Self out working for Self was similar in nature to Bo hanging out in Norman for a year or so with Stoops." 

 

How does that one get parsed?  That one work?

Daledangdarn

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How about if tcp had said "assisting Self"?  Except that would probably have drawn the objection, "but he's not an assistant; he's the DoBO.  So, he's not really assisting." 

 

How about "working for Self"?  "Every indication that his tenure helping Self out working for Self was similar in nature to Bo hanging out in Norman for a year or so with Stoops." 

 

How does that one get parsed?  That one work?

 

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hhcmatt

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That should tell us something.

Considering that Self's last DoBO got hired as a head coach at another program, I'm not sure exactly what you'd be reading into that.

 

Norm it just furthers strengthens my view.  The last guy in that position got a new gig, Doc did not.  I will state I really wish things had worked out for Doc in Lincoln, he WANTED to be there and in my opinion would have stayed had things worked out.  That said, I was never impressed with his coaching or recruiting skills.  Self not hiring him tells me he may agree with my assessment.

 

The good and the bad of twitter....the bad in this part being context. 

 

 

The reason that Doc isn't a candidate is BECAUSE he wants to be a head coach.

hskr4life

hskr4life

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That should tell us something.

Considering that Self's last DoBO got hired as a head coach at another program, I'm not sure exactly what you'd be reading into that.

 

Norm it just furthers strengthens my view.  The last guy in that position got a new gig, Doc did not.  I will state I really wish things had worked out for Doc in Lincoln, he WANTED to be there and in my opinion would have stayed had things worked out.  That said, I was never impressed with his coaching or recruiting skills.  Self not hiring him tells me he may agree with my assessment.

 

NO it doesn't. Doc's largely temporarily parking in the DOBO spot as he figures out what he wants to be when he grows up. He's not married to the K program in a way that you might expect an assistant to be when first hired. There's no indication that Sadler wanted an assistant slot (which would be the one piece of actual evidence which would support your conclusion) and every indication that his tenure helping Self out was similar in nature to Bo hanging out in Norman for a year or so with Stoops. The situations are pretty analogous.

 

 

Doc is helping Self out?  I think you may have that one backwards, KU would be just fine sans a Doc Sadler.

 

 

Obviously Self wants him there for a reason.. he does not just have Doc on staff to have Doc on staff.  You do not just get the DOBO at KU without Self wanting you there to help him in some sort of way.

Daledangdarn

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I do think Doc is helping Kansas, I just think Doc needs Kansas more right now than Kansas needs Doc.  In reality, I probably should have just let it go and not posted that, I didn't mean to start a shitstorm of mincing words.

atskooc

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nah, Dale, it's all good...board's been slow the past few days, we could use a good shitstorm around here.

Yeah, I mean I don't think anyone has their panties in a wad about this.  Just another offseason discussion.  It's all good.  :)

 

Yup.  If we want to get panties in a wad all we need are a few more Creighton threads in this forum and not in the College Basketball forum.

 

B)

atskooc

atskooc

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Maybe 49r could find us a gif of panties in a wad.  He did pretty well on his last effort.  :o

Don't think I didn't think about that! 

Dean Smith

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That should tell us something.

Considering that Self's last DoBO got hired as a head coach at another program, I'm not sure exactly what you'd be reading into that.

 

Norm it just furthers strengthens my view.  The last guy in that position got a new gig, Doc did not.  I will state I really wish things had worked out for Doc in Lincoln, he WANTED to be there and in my opinion would have stayed had things worked out.  That said, I was never impressed with his coaching or recruiting skills.  Self not hiring him tells me he may agree with my assessment.

 

NO it doesn't. Doc's largely temporarily parking in the DOBO spot as he figures out what he wants to be when he grows up. He's not married to the K program in a way that you might expect an assistant to be when first hired. There's no indication that Sadler wanted an assistant slot (which would be the one piece of actual evidence which would support your conclusion) and every indication that his tenure helping Self out was similar in nature to Bo hanging out in Norman for a year or so with Stoops. The situations are pretty analogous.

 

 

Doc is helping Self out?  I think you may have that one backwards, KU would be just fine sans a Doc Sadler.

 

That's what a DoBo does - help the head coach out. KU is doing just fine without Roy Williams but they had a better coach when he was there. Doc is helping Self out. It's in the job description.

RedEyedFanatic

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That should tell us something.

Considering that Self's last DoBO got hired as a head coach at another program, I'm not sure exactly what you'd be reading into that.

 

Norm it just furthers strengthens my view.  The last guy in that position got a new gig, Doc did not.  I will state I really wish things had worked out for Doc in Lincoln, he WANTED to be there and in my opinion would have stayed had things worked out.  That said, I was never impressed with his coaching or recruiting skills.  Self not hiring him tells me he may agree with my assessment.

 

NO it doesn't. Doc's largely temporarily parking in the DOBO spot as he figures out what he wants to be when he grows up. He's not married to the K program in a way that you might expect an assistant to be when first hired. There's no indication that Sadler wanted an assistant slot (which would be the one piece of actual evidence which would support your conclusion) and every indication that his tenure helping Self out was similar in nature to Bo hanging out in Norman for a year or so with Stoops. The situations are pretty analogous.

 

 

Doc is helping Self out?  I think you may have that one backwards, KU would be just fine sans a Doc Sadler.

 

That's what a DoBo does - help the head coach out. KU is doing just fine without Roy Williams but they had a better coach when he was there. Doc is helping Self out. It's in the job description.

 

Lol, I agree so much with this.  But all of my in-laws (all KU fans) disagree strongly.  I think it's because KU fans are pretty bitter people, but I could be wrong.  It's just a coincedence that they took Nebraska out of their school song when we left the conference.

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