Nebraska (6-11) vs Purdue (13-2) game thread

[HuskerFever]

1 minute ago, hhcdave said:

Doc is already 100000% retiring (I can confirm) but Matt A better be looking for work by St Patrick’s Day. 

 

Rebuilding year #4?

[hhcmatt]

1 minute ago, hhcdave said:

Doc is already 100000% retiring (I can confirm) but Matt A better be looking for work by St Patrick’s Day. 

 

Something needs to change

[hskr4life]

8 minutes ago, hhcdave said:

I love the multiple times per game that Derrick Walker pins and boxes the fuck out of his guy on a free throw miss - and Lat’s finesse effort allows an offensive rebound after ball hits the ground twice. 
 

Also love it when Lat takes it up at 6-7/6-8 and finesse finger rolls it like a princess. 
 

least favorite player in program history. 

I don’t understand how Lat keeps earning minutes. I really don’t.

[throwback]

4 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Rebuilding year #4?

Why not? It's year zero somewhere.

[hhcmatt]

5 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

I don’t understand how Lat keeps earning minutes. I really don’t.

 

Every other available player we have on the roster is a worse option at the 4. Same problem I had with my RB2 in fantasy this year.

[hskr4life]

Just now, hhcmatt said:

 

Every other available player we have on the roster is a worse option at the 4. 

Yeah… that answer is a roughhhh truth.

[thrasher31]

2 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Every other available player we have on the roster is a worse option at the 4. Same problem I had with my RB2 in fantasy this year.

Ideally Wilhelm would've been taking the minutes at the 4 if he didn't go down. Him going down forced the hand of playing Lat. Wilhelm at least kept the ball moving and was active defensively despite his limitations right now. 

[Cookie Crumbs]

3 minutes ago, thrasher31 said:

Ideally Wilhelm would've been taking the minutes at the 4 if he didn't go down. Him going down forced the hand of playing Lat. Wilhelm at least kept the ball moving and was active defensively despite his limitations right now. 

Based on everything I heard during the off-season, this should've been our last problem.

 

I specifically remember FH talking about how hard it's going to be to pick a rotation, because our depth chart was so great and could fill in anywhere.

[HuskerFever]

6 minutes ago, hguy44 said:

Based on everything I heard during the off-season, this should've been our last problem.

 

I specifically remember FH talking about how hard it's going to be to pick a rotation, because our depth chart was so great and could fill in anywhere.

 

[hhcmatt]

5 minutes ago, thrasher31 said:

Ideally Wilhelm would've been taking the minutes at the 4 if he didn't go down. Him going down forced the hand of playing Lat. Wilhelm at least kept the ball moving and was active defensively despite his limitations right now. 

 

Maybe Willhelm would have progressed quickly but it's not like he was a huge upgrade over Lat, especially offensively.

 

Lat being just being serviceable on defense was sort of the deal with him. Him being a 3pt shooter who can't hit 3s is the problem.

[HuskerFever]

7 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Him being a 3pt shooter who can't hit 3s is the problem.

 

I think this is the major key here. For the entire team.

 

Hoiberg was hopeful about fielding this team with 40%+ shooting from 3, and it turns out only 3 players on our roster have 30%+.

[Nebrasketball1979]

22 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Every other available player we have on the roster is a worse option at the 4. Same problem I had with my RB2 in fantasy this year.

While this is very likely true, it shouldn't mean that the coaches just throw up their hands, shrug their shoulders and say this is all we can do.  Try something, anything.  Play without a 4, play small with two 1's (i.e Verge and Webster) or play big with two 5's.  I don't understand why we really haven't experimented much with the starting lineup since we pulled Keon out.  This likely sorts itself out when Trey comes back.

[Cookie Crumbs]

32 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Something needs to change

 

Lincoln is not big enough for both Matt A and FH.

 

Either Matt A has no idea to assess talent/players that work well together OR Fred Hoiberg just completely botched a well crafted and talented team and we should cut our losses now.

[hhcmatt]

6 minutes ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

While this is very likely true, it shouldn't mean that the coaches just throw up their hands, shrug their shoulders and say this is all we can do.  Try something, anything.  Play without a 4, play small with two 1's (i.e Verge and Webster) or play big with two 5's.  I don't understand why we really haven't experimented much with the starting lineup since we pulled Keon out.  This likely sorts itself out when Trey comes back.

 

I ask because I honestly have no idea: how did we look during the 9 minutes Lat wasn't out there tonight?

[thrasher31]

17 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Maybe Willhelm would have progressed quickly but it's not like he was a huge upgrade over Lat, especially offensively.

 

Lat being just being serviceable on defense was sort of the deal with him. Him being a 3pt shooter who can't hit 3s is the problem.

I see it as an upgrade in a guy who can actually put the ball on the floor  and showed a bit of skill. Plus, he kept the ball moving, which we've seen as of late has been an lacking. 

 

I see your premise though.

Edited January 15, 2022 by thrasher31

[hhcmatt]

4 minutes ago, thrasher31 said:

I see it as an upgrade in a guy who can actually put the ball on the floor  and showed a bit of skill. Plus, he kept the ball moving, which we've seen as of late has been an lacking. 

 

I see your premise though.

 

One of these deals where it would have been nice to play the hot hand

[thrasher31]

Just now, hhcmatt said:

 

One of these deals where it would have been nice to play the hot hand

Bingo. Now we're stuck with one extremely cold hand that is being exploited. But he's the only option unless you want to play Keon. CJ plays there, but can't be against every team

[Nebrasketball1979]

1 minute ago, hhcmatt said:

 

I ask because I honestly have no idea: how did we look during the 9 minutes Lat wasn't out there tonight?

Ha, fair enough.  It's ok to want and demand change for the sake of change.  For me, we have hit the definition of insanity with Lat.  It feels like our Coaching staff is being needlessly stubborn with Lat and his playing time.  Almost to the point where they hear all of the outside noise and they are just going to stick with him to prove to everyone else they are right about their assessment of Lat.  Anyways, there is no guarantee starting Kobe or CJ or Andre or Trey or anyone else over Lat will change the outcome.  But why not experiment and try?  It's not like what we are doing is working.

[Dead Dog Alley]

1 hour ago, Nebrasketballer said:

 

The worst thing about this state is that the sports columnists suck just as much as the state university's men's sports teams.

[HB]

13 minutes ago, Dead Dog Alley said:

The worst thing about this state is that the sports columnists suck just as much as the state university's men's sports teams.

I’m no Dirk fan but what is wrong with this tweet?

[HuskerFever]

2 minutes ago, HB said:

I’m no Dirk fan but what is wrong with this tweet?

 

Ask Kidney.

[49r]

1 hour ago, hhcdave said:

Doc is already 100000% retiring (I can confirm) but Matt A better be looking for work by St Patrick’s Day. 

 

Doc was retired the day he moved into his office in the Hendricks center.

[Dead Dog Alley]

13 minutes ago, HB said:

I’m no Dirk fan but what is wrong with this tweet?

Nothing in particular is wrong with that tweet, but 15 years of someone pretending he's an Oracle of Delphi when he's nothing but Captain Obvious has worn pretty thin.

[49r]

 
Lincoln is not big enough for both Matt A and FH.
 
Either Matt A has no idea to assess talent/players that work well together OR Fred Hoiberg just completely botched a well crafted and talented team and we should cut our losses now.

Grim assessment


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[brfrad]

Pros and cons of each player

 

Verge

 

Pros:  Can get to the rim and score.  Also, when he's engaged can run the offense and distribute the ball.

Cons : Lazy on defense.  Will pout when he thinks he's fouled.  Not always engaged.  Tries to do too much when the going gets tough.

 

Bryce

 

Pros:  one of the best players in the conference getting to the rim.  One of the best wings in conference on getting to the foul line

Cons:  Really lazy on defense.  Plays straight up and down allowing his man to blow by him.  Shot selection.  (this has gotten better since the tough love game against Kennesaw State)

 

Walker

 

Pros:  Gives great effort on the defensive end.  Deserves a Purple Heart for the battles he goes through against the top big men in the country.  Really good on offense around the basket.

Cons:  Honestly, the only one is something he can't change.  His lack of size.

 

Keisei

 

Pros:  Great shooter.  Brings energy to the team

Cons:  Not very athletic.  Shot selection.  Size.  

 

Lat

 

Pros:  Honestly can't think of one

Cons:  Everything.  I really don't want to bag on a player, but it's rough watching him play.

 

Kobe

 

Pros:  Settles team down.  Good looking shot.  Distributes the ball

Cons:  Turnover prone.  Shot selection.  Decision making at times can be bad.

 

Wilcher

 

Pros:  Good shooter.  Good effort

Cons:  Not athletic enough.  Streaky shooter at times.

 

Andre

 

Pros:  Decent effort.  Good size.

Cons:  Hands are awful.  Foul prone.  While he has good size, not strong enough to battle the Big 10 bigs

 

Lakes

 

Pros:  Good shooter

Cons:  Not athletic at all

 

Trey

 

Pros:  Best on ball defender.  Can get to the rim.

Cons:  Poor shooter.  Not great ball handler.

 

Wilhelm

 

Pros:  Effort.  Size.

Cons: Foul prone.  Shot selection.

Edited January 15, 2022 by brfrad