Perspective

[tcp]

well, that "star chart" (ugh) is pretty depressing. 

 

I generally don't like to overrate juco all americans and such. we've had them before and while they're usually decent, often better, they're rarely program saviors. I think we're expecting too much from our transfers. Probably way too much. 

[hhcmatt]

24 minutes ago, Red Don said:

 

I wonder what it might have looked like had we retained Tim Miles? 

 

Maybe a little higher or lower but I don't think it would be significantly different. 

I know that Miles tended to be a wizard in terms of pulling in guys but in terms of changing coaches while minimizing loss in talent, the change from Miles to Hoiberg came at the right time.

[The Polish Rifle]

3 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Maybe a little higher or lower but I don't think it would be significantly different. 

I know that Miles tended to be a wizard in terms of pulling in guys but in terms of changing coaches while minimizing loss in talent, the change from Miles to Hoiberg came at the right time.

Glynn, Cope, JPJ and Isaiah coming off the books even if Miles is back (all 4 star or higher I believe), Allen might still be here.

 

How we didn’t go dancing with all that talent? It still keeps me up at night. Starting 5 of all 4 & 5 stars!!!

[Norm Peterson]

Thomas Allen was gone no matter what happened with Miles.

 

Our roster if Miles had been retained would have challenged this one for guys who can't shoot.

[AuroranHusker]

I'm not as interested in the recruiting 'star' ranking as the dudes on the roster in how they perform on a nightly basis, including effort, heart & hustle. I'm prepared to see struggles but I never want to see a dude loaf or not give it his all in a ballgame in this 2019-20 campaign. I'd imagine neither do Fred, Doc, et al. GBR

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2019 by AuroranHusker

[Navin R. Johnson]

Maybe we need to ask Lionel Osborne

 

[Mr. Red]

18 hours ago, Handy Johnson said:

I was sitting courtside for that 10 win debacle in ‘89, and was bed ridden after a spinal fusion when Nee won his last home game vs Colorado in 2000.... I’m getting too old to sit through many more of these.

@Handy Johnson How has your back held up the 30 years after that fusion?  I've been scared away by the people who say that the adjacent discs just give out that much quicker and you end up getting fusion after fusion after fusion, as well as people claiming limited mobility, and claims increasing pain that just shifted elsewhere in their back.

 

What's you story/experience?

[tcp]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Red said:

@Handy Johnson How has your back held up the 30 years after that fusion?  I've been scared away by the people who say that the adjacent discs just give out that much quicker and you end up getting fusion after fusion after fusion, as well as people claiming limited mobility, and claims increasing pain that just shifted elsewhere in their back.

 

What's you story/experience?

 

It's a high risk procedure at the best of times. these aren't the best of times. failed fusions do generally lead to higher pain levels and cascading surgery events. the bigger problem you have no is the war on pain patients chapter of the drug war. I am dying because of that war, although it's taking me longer to croak than expected by about 3 years. And my diseases are of the spine. Since I work in the pain movement at national, our advice to anyone considering spinal surgery of any kind right now is to ensure that you have a plan for pain control after the procedure, especially if it fails. Because we're losing hundreds of patients that no longer have access to their pain medications after these procedures now, so make damned sure you have total confidence in your physician to back your medications. The worst case scenario is that your surgery fails, your pain increases, and you're left with nothing adequate to deal with it. And this is happening to thousands of our community members every single day. It's happening to me as well. 

[Handy Johnson]

2 hours ago, Mr. Red said:

@Handy Johnson How has your back held up the 30 years after that fusion?  I've been scared away by the people who say that the adjacent discs just give out that much quicker and you end up getting fusion after fusion after fusion, as well as people claiming limited mobility, and claims increasing pain that just shifted elsewhere in their back.

 

What's you story/experience?

It made my existing back pain worse. At my yearly review in ‘01 the surgeon said it would never get any better & there was nothing I could do about it....  So I’d recommend putting it off if at all possible. Good luck 

[49r]

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[49r]

Even after beating top-75 Pitt on the road, Nicholls State has a lower KenPom ranking than both SUU and UC Riverside, FWIW.

 

The epitome of brutality.

[huskerbill85]

We have some good pieces, the bigs will continue to mature, and let's be very honest the guys who will get us over the hump arent on the roster. Fred will get us there and I look forward to the day Jim Nance reflects on our record this year as were dancing our way to the Sweet 16 :)

[NWUhusker]

I’m looking at the pieces for next year (I know it’s very early). Who does everyone think is a big contributor on next year’s team? I see Mack, Green, Ivan, Cross, hopefully Curtis, and...?

 

I hope Arop develops. He has the athleticism’s to play in the big ten if there’s some skill development. Banton and Walker come in and provide size, skill, and experience.

 

I just think this year is all about seeing certain guys improve. I apologize if I left out anyone who will be a part of the future. Just thinking off the top of my head.

[Ron Mexico]

I’m looking at the pieces for next year (I know it’s very early). Who does everyone think is a big contributor on next year’s team? I see Mack, Green, Ivan, Cross, hopefully Curtis, and...?
 
I hope Arop develops. He has the athleticism’s to play in the big ten if there’s some skill development. Banton and Walker come in and provide size, skill, and experience.
 
I just think this year is all about seeing certain guys improve. I apologize if I left out anyone who will be a part of the future. Just thinking off the top of my head.

There will be a number of guys given transfer option.


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[NWUhusker]

1 hour ago, Ron Mexico said:

There will be a number of guys given transfer option.


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That’s what I’m thinking. I don’t think Hoiberg has any problem telling guys they can’t play at this level. He’s got a couple on this team and those conversations will happen at the end of the year.

[HolyBobpilgrimage]

5 hours ago, NWUhusker said:

That’s what I’m thinking. I don’t think Hoiberg has any problem telling guys they can’t play at this level. He’s got a couple on this team and those conversations will happen at the end of the year.

Yeah, itll be an evolution as fred shapes his team like playdoh. This year was all about filling a roster to field, and I was pretty happy with how many great pieces we found given all the constraints and late start. If we lose a few that's fine as long as guys are mature and keep improving. I want a family atmosphere eventually, some swagger...this year feels like a lot of mercenaries who dont know each other. 

[hskr4life]

Unfortunately, this may be a thread that hits the 50 page mark before the season ends.  SDSU is now 3-0 and will have a chance at USC to go 4-0.  Southern, as of now, will be the first opponent we play that has a loss.

[Norm Peterson]

21 hours ago, NWUhusker said:

That’s what I’m thinking. I don’t think Hoiberg has any problem telling guys they can’t play at this level. He’s got a couple on this team and those conversations will happen at the end of the year.

 

Correct. I think it's highly likely that neither Kavas nor Cheatham will be back next year.

 

I should add: this is not based on inside information; just an educated guess.

[49r]

Kentucky is trailing KenPom #169 Evansville at halftime in Rupp Arena 34-30.

[49r]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

Kentucky is trailing KenPom #169 Evansville at halftime in Rupp Arena 34-30.

 

And the Aces pull off the stunning upset!  67-64!  WOW!  First time Kentucky has lost at home to an unranked non-con opponent in 52 years!!!

[Norm Peterson]

4 hours ago, 49r said:

 

And the Aces pull off the stunning upset!  67-64!  WOW!  First time Kentucky has lost at home to an unranked non-con opponent in 52 years!!!

 

Go Purple Aces! Now, people will forget that we crapped our pants at work because Kentucky did it more recently and, whereas nobody saw us do it, Kentucky did it in the main lobby where everyone saw it.

 

Thanks Kentucky. We appreciate it.

[khoock]

I think most of us are on the same page. In short, this year will be rough but we will see vast improvements in years two and three.

[49r]

Northwestern lost at home to KenPom #136 Radford.

 

 

What a wild season so far for Northwestern.  1-2 with losses to Merrimack and Radford and a win against....Providence???

[hskr4life]

14 minutes ago, 49r said:

Northwestern lost at home to KenPom #136 Radford.

 

 

What a wild season so far for Northwestern.  1-2 with losses to Merrimack and Radford and a win against....Providence???

Just wait until we have losses to SUU and UC Riverside with wins over Creighton and Purdue.  

[49r]

 

9 Kansas 75, 69 East Tennessee St. 63 [72]

Tuesday, November 19, 2019 · 8:00 pm ET · Allen Fieldhouse

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	T
East Tennessee St.	10	19	15	19	63
Kansas	21	22	8	24	75

East Tennessee St.Kansas

<prev    East Tennessee St. (3-1)               

		Name	Min	ORtg	%Ps	Pts	2PM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OR	DR	A	TO	Blk	Stl	PF
6-5 210 Jr	3	Bo Hodges	36	98	30	22	7-11	1-3	5-8	2	5	1	5	3	2	2
6-0 175 Jr	10	Patrick Good	30	55	17	6	0-0	2-10	0-0	0	3	0	2	0	3	2
6-7 230 Sr	11	Jeromy Rodriguez	27	89	13	4	2-5	0-0	0-1	4	6	1	1	0	2	4
7-0 230 Sr	25	Lucas N'Guessan	23	129	19	11	3-5	1-1	2-4	3	4	1	1	1	1	3
6-1 195 Sr	15	Isaiah Tisdale	19	45	13	1	0-1	0-2	1-2	0	1	2	1	0	2	4
6-4 195 Sr	1	Tray Boyd	25	85	24	9	0-1	3-10	0-0	0	1	3	2	0	0	0
6-2 165 So	5	Daivien Williamson	25	105	22	10	2-4	2-4	0-0	1	0	4	3	0	0	2
6-4 200 Fr	23	Vonnie Patterson	15	13	12	0	0-3	0-0	0-0	1	1	0	1	0	1	2
		Team								0	1		0
		TOTAL	200			63 0.88	14-30 .467	9-30 .300	8-15 .533	11 .289	22 .815	12 .522	16 .222	4 .100	11 .153	19
Largest lead: 5-4 (17:07 1st half).

<prev    Kansas (3-1)               

		Name	Min	ORtg	%Ps	Pts	2PM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OR	DR	A	TO	Blk	Stl	PF
6-5 195 Jr	0	Marcus Garrett	35	114	18	13	4-4	0-2	5-6	1	5	3	3	0	3	3
6-2 185 So	1	Devon Dotson	34	108	29	19	5-7	1-5	6-6	0	3	6	4	0	1	3
6-5 210 So	30	Ochai Agbaji	34	57	16	4	2-4	0-4	0-0	1	2	2	2	0	1	2
7-0 270 Sr	35	Udoka Azubuike MVP	28	126	26	21	10-13	0-0	1-4	2	5	1	1	4	3	1
6-10 265 So	33	David McCormack	12	98	22	4	2-5	0-0	0-0	1	2	1	0	1	0	1
6-8 200 Fr	13	Tristan Enaruna	23	120	11	4	2-2	0-1	0-0	0	4	4	1	0	4	2
6-5 208 Sr	4	Isaiah Moss	17	52	16	2	0-0	0-2	2-2	0	1	1	2	0	1	0
6-9 245 Jr	22	Silvio De Sousa	9			8	4-4	0-0	0-0	0	1	0	1	3	1	3
6-6 205 Fr	2	Christian Braun	8			0	0-1	0-0	0-0	0	1	1	1	0	0	1
		Team								0	3		0
		TOTAL	200			75 1.04	29-40 .725	1-14 .071	14-18 .778	5 .185	27 .711	19 .633	15 .208	8 .267	14 .194	16
Largest lead: 31-13 (07:38 1st half). Minimum win probability: 85.9% (trailed 5-4, 17:21 1st half).

 

 

 

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Check out the 3-point shooting on that Jayhawk team!!!

 

(of course that doesn't mean a whole lot more than the 47% they shot from 3 in the game before, but still...)