jdostal Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22371587/ncaa-men-basketball-selection-committee-apply-metrics-correctly How dare you trick me into reading an article that treats BPI as equal in value to Kenpom! hhcmatt 1 Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, hhcdimes said: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22371587/ncaa-men-basketball-selection-committee-apply-metrics-correctly Anybody see the ESPN stats response to the Huskers question on twitter? BPI says if we win out before the Big Ten tournament we have a 99% chance of getting a bid. Lose just one and we have a 72% percent chance. I would take that in a heartbeat. Edited February 9, 2018 by huskerbaseball13 Nebrasketball1979, Huskerpapa, TourneyBound and 1 other 4 Quote
jdostal Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 Yeah I love BPI all of a sudden. Nebrasketball1979 1 Quote
royalfan Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 I don't understand how our predictive rankings are so low. These is similar to what Vegas uses, and they have proven to be wrong all season. Why isn't it adjusting? Quote
HuskerFever Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, royalfan said: I don't understand how our predictive rankings are so low. These is similar to what Vegas uses, and they have proven to be wrong all season. Why isn't it adjusting? Vegas and RPI forecasts be like: Red Rum and jdostal 2 Quote
Nebrasketball1979 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, royalfan said: I don't understand how our predictive rankings are so low. These is similar to what Vegas uses, and they have proven to be wrong all season. Why isn't it adjusting? Perhaps they are accounting for the long losing skids that has accompanied the end of the last few seasons and are expecting the other shoe to drop at any moment! Most of us here strongly suspect that isn't going to happen but those who aren't invested nearly as heavily in Nebrasketball and seldom watch a Nebraska game likely just think we are on a nice, cute little run that will end very soon based on past performance. Quote
royalfan Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Nebrasketball1979 said: Perhaps they are accounting for the long losing skids that has accompanied the end of the last few seasons and are expecting the other shoe to drop at any moment! Most of us here strongly suspect that isn't going to happen but those who aren't invested nearly as heavily in Nebrasketball and seldom watch a Nebraska game likely just think we are on a nice, cute little run that will end very soon based on past performance. Vegas line could account for that, but not a predictive computer ranking. Quote
Nebrasketball1979 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, royalfan said: Vegas line could account for that, but not a predictive computer ranking. Completely agree but remember that humans with built in bias' program and populate the assumptions used in these computer models. i strongly suspect the computer rankings are not capturing past collapses but hey, maybe these computers are based off artificial intelligence and are smarter than we give them credit for! Quote
AuroranHusker Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, HuskerFever said: Vegas and RPI forecasts be like: Is that LaVar Ball?!?! Silverbacked1 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said: Is that LaVar Ball?!?! Quote
AuroranHusker Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: It was a joke, albeit an unfunny joke. Kinda like LaVar is...... Quote
hhcmatt Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said: It was a joke, albeit an unfunny joke I guess mine was too Quote
AuroranHusker Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: I guess mine was too Well, at least it's Friday. Quote
jason2486 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said: It was a joke, albeit an unfunny joke. Kinda like LaVar is...... I was gonna say "this is how BBB got started...all because he didn't win on The Price is Right!" AuroranHusker 1 Quote
HuskerFever Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: I guess mine was too hhcmatt 1 Quote
AuroranHusker Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, jason2486 said: I was gonna say "this is how BBB got started...all because he didn't win on The Price is Right!" He's really a low baller. Quote
MichHusker Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 Another metric that plays to our favor that the committee will see in their packets for the 1st time this year: strength of record we rank 36th in the nation. Ahead of teams like Villanova, Purdue, and Ohio State. It’s not the perfect metric by any stretch, but nice to see we are looked at favorably Jock Farmer 1 Quote
HuskerActuary Posted February 10, 2018 Report Posted February 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, MichHusker said: Another metric that plays to our favor that the committee will see in their packets for the 1st time this year: strength of record we rank 36th in the nation. Ahead of teams like Villanova, Purdue, and Ohio State. It’s not the perfect metric by any stretch, but nice to see we are looked at favorably Good point. Our strength of record is pretty good. I would be interested to learn how much the committee uses the metrics at the top of the team sheets. Unfortunately the average of both the result-based metrics and the predictive-based metrics aren't very good compared to other bubble teams right now. KPI and BPI really bringing us down. Quote
royalfan Posted February 10, 2018 Report Posted February 10, 2018 Bilas said this morning that the quadrants are "stupid." At least I am not alone. AuroranHusker 1 Quote
Blindcheck Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 How I strength of record calculated or where can I read more about it. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 5 hours ago, royalfan said: Bilas said this morning that the quadrants are "stupid." At least I am not alone. Agreed. Top 50 home or away is a great win. Top 100 et al. Quote
bigFRED Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 Conversation Topic...: Nebraska 19-8 record, best wins vs. Michigan and Northwestern on the road, worst loss vs. #88 RPI Penn State on the road. Creighton 18-7 record, best wins vs. Seton Hall, Butler, UCLA, and Us, Worst loss vs. #76 RPI Baylor. Of course the RPI overrates their wins against Big East teams because of "how much better it is than the Big Ten" but our best win is better than theirs, and our worst loss is pretty similar. Similar record as well. They are a lock for the tournament and we are first four out. HuskerActuary 1 Quote
HuskerFever Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, noahjb24 said: Conversation Topic...: Nebraska 19-8 record, best wins vs. Michigan and Northwestern on the road, worst loss vs. #88 RPI Penn State on the road. Creighton 18-7 record, best wins vs. Seton Hall, Butler, UCLA, and Us, Worst loss vs. #76 RPI Baylor. Of course the RPI overrates their wins against Big East teams because of "how much better it is than the Big Ten" but our best win is better than theirs, and our worst loss is pretty similar. Similar record as well. They are a lock for the tournament and we are first four out. But 20% of our schedule was against the bottom 10% of Division I college basketball. So that's what we get. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, HuskerFever said: But 20% of our schedule was against the bottom 10% of Division I college basketball. So that's what we get. Unfortunately that is true. But, it's still a flawed process. Personally, I think 'Momentum' should remain a factor, as in the "last 10." Quote
Cookie Miller Wasn't Dirty Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said: Unfortunately that is true. But, it's still a flawed process. Personally, I think 'Momentum' should remain a factor, as in the "last 10." It’s definitely a factor. They might not look specifically at your record in your last ten, but they definitely watch games this month to get a feel for what kind of team you’ve become. This will be the biggest factor playing in our favor. This team has the capability of making a run in the tourney. The idea of them being relegated to the NIT makes me nauseous. Edited February 11, 2018 by Cookie Miller Wasn't Dirty Quote
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