Developing story: NCAA fraud and corruption probe

[bkamler]

I was a D1 baseball player at a small college in Denver and there was stuff going on then in 1968-1972. Laundry money was distributed to star players in higher proportion than non stars. Alumni slipped cash in our hands during hand shakes at parties. It was obviously worse in football and basketball. Been going on for many decades. Charles’s statement was not reckless In my opinion.

[Swan88]

Then let’s just have an auction for top players.  

If some teams are trying to play by the rules, and others are cheating, that’s a defect in the system.  

I remember the NCAA putting Osborne’s team on probation for a slight technicality—and now we are told that, during the same time, other teams were paying players: seems ridiculously unfair!  

[Huskerpapa]

1 hour ago, bkamler said:

I was a D1 baseball player at a small college in Denver and there was stuff going on then in 1968-1972. Laundry money was distributed to star players in higher proportion than non stars. Alumni slipped cash in our hands during hand shakes at parties. It was obviously worse in football and basketball. Been going on for many decades. Charles’s statement was not reckless In my opinion.

I am very aware...very aware of what has occurred and what continues to occur.  Hence my prefatory comment.  But, this is reckless, especially if he is implying that crap at that level is widespread --  "...they said they gave that kid at Arizona (Ayton) $100,000. He was underpaid. There must’ve been closed bidding because I would’ve gave his (expletive) more."

[Blindcheck]

If the NCAA institutions wanted to clean up the soft money paid to players, they could.  The institutions could simply give the NCAA investigators absolute power and allow them to institute penalties and swift punishment instead of the long drawn out process that seems intentional to make it hard to catch anyone.

 

[jimmykc]

The NCAA is a self-perpetuating bureaucracy and ,as such, will never be effective in eliminating the excesses which would make their organization unnecessary.

[Chuck Taylor]

Honestly, who doesn't know all this stuff? It makes no sense for universities to be running minor league sports for the pros and it never has. Getting rid of major men's sports is the only way to solve it.

[swoof]

15 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

I am very aware...very aware of what has occurred and what continues to occur.  Hence my prefatory comment.  But, this is reckless, especially if he is implying that crap at that level is widespread --  "...they said they gave that kid at Arizona (Ayton) $100,000. He was underpaid. There must’ve been closed bidding because I would’ve gave his (expletive) more."

My understanding of that situation is that it wasn't the kid that was getting all the cash but an agent and/or AAU coach that were steering the kid to Arizona but i could have been confused.

[Navin R. Johnson]

Now that the NCAA Tournament is over, I would expect the you know what to hit the fan soon.

[HuskerFever]

14 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

Now that the NCAA Tournament is over, I would expect the you know what to hit the fan soon.

 

[Norm Peterson]

NCAA Commission on College Basketball Proposal: End one-and-done; allow undrafted players to return to school; ban cheating coaches for life.

 

http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/mens-basketball/article209753829.html

 

The value of the stock of coaches who don't cheat might have just gone up.  A lot.

[49r]

Watch the Commission's presentation here (Skip forward to the 29 minute mark):

 

 

 

Edited April 25, 2018 by 49r

[49r]

Reddit discussion here:

 

 

[hhcmatt]

There is a big difference between the proposal of rules and the enactment of rules

[49r]

5 minutes ago, hhcdimes said:

There is a big difference between the proposal of rules and the enactment of rules

 

The discussion on Sirius XM ESPN U this morning seemed to suggest that this commission would not have been formed (or at least Condoleeza Rice wouldn't have been involved) if they didn't achieve basically rubber-stamp approval of the recommendations they make.  So I am fairly optimistic about the enactment.

 

Now, *enforcement* might be another problem...

[HuskerFever]

I'm sure agents and the apparel companies have already figured out arbitrage opportunities as to what constitutes "signing with an agent." Didn't we find out that players were making agent/apparel deals as early as AAU should they make it to the NBA?

[HuskerFever]

Although getting rid of the one-and-done does hurt the college game a bit (which can definitely be debated; just look at this year's tournament where the one-and-done schools dropped out of the tournament early), I do think it takes a little pressure off of the NCAA and college basketball. The argument that players have may options to further their NBA aspirations in places other than the NCAA has been around for years. But now the NCAA can stand behind the "we're not forcing anybody to be here" motto.