Huskerpapa Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 And rather than Dr. Watson - we could go with Doc Watson SMOOTH!!!! AuroranHusker 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, uneblinstu said: Can we call McVeigh "Sherlock" then? He's gonna find a lot of ways to get open. It's gonna be hard to beat Jack McTrey Huskerpapa, aphilso1, Minnesota_Husker and 2 others 5 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 42 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: It's gonna be hard to beat Jack McTrey Yup. That can stick! That would be a great name for a radio call Kent. Quote
uneblinstu Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 42 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: It's gonna be hard to beat Jack McTrey Yeah, that's probably true. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, hhcdimes said: It's gonna be hard to beat Jack McTrey I like a nickname that 'fits'. Quote
Minnesota_Husker Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 This thread quickly turned in to the nickname thread... don't hate that at all.In terms of depth-Center- Jacobson/JordyPF-Morrow/Horne/FullerSF-McVeigh/Roby/HorneSG-Webster/GillPG- Watson/TaylorFuller has experience and therefore he still gets his minutes... freshman will screw up and they will have to fight to get minutes. I would prefer if Miles didn't do that thing where a guy gets 15 minutes one game and then 2 minutes for the next 4 games. Would prefer consistency.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk AuroranHusker 1 Quote
Art Vandalay Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 22 hours ago, nustudent said: Coming into the year...I struggled to see Horne getting minutes. Completely surprised with his skills. Great shooter. Good ball handler for a stretch 4. Not sure I like him a ton on the wing as ball handling and defense could be an issue in big 10 play...but love him in the frontcourt. He'll get some looks away from the basket against other 4 and 5 men He might not yet be there on Defense at the 3 right now. However I do not have any doubts he will be able to guard that spot. I was surprised at his ball handling, way better than Andrew White at the 3 last year, do not think it will be an issue at all on the wing. He has had a couple real nice drives but not really involved in press break yet. I think you can play him, Roby, and Jack at the 3 or 4 together when needed. We have a ton of options for different lineups at 3,4,5 if Jordy picks it up a little. Quote
Cowboy Kermit Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 The thing about Nick Fuller is that he doesn't exactly have a definitive position. Two slow to defend/play 3, too small to defend/play the 4. His experience trumps that of the youngins, which will be the only thing buying him minutes. If he could consistently knock down shots, maybe he would get more clock. Feel bad for the kid, as he really seems to be the "Everyday" guy for this team. Hopefully whatever role Miles bestows upon him, he can embrace it. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 5 hours ago, Minnesota_Husker said: This thread quickly turned in to the nickname thread... don't hate that at all. In terms of depth- Center- Jacobson/Jordy PF-Morrow/Horne/Fuller SF-McVeigh/Roby/Horne SG-Webster/Gill PG- Watson/Taylor Fuller has experience and therefore he still gets his minutes... freshman will screw up and they will have to fight to get minutes. I would prefer if Miles didn't do that thing where a guy gets 15 minutes one game and then 2 minutes for the next 4 games. Would prefer consistency. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ed is actually playing the Post/Center and MJ is playing PF/4. That said, MJ adds to depth at Center because he played there last year. Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 3 hours ago, NebrasketballJake said: Hopefully whatever role Miles bestows upon him, he can embrace it. Actually he's not too bad at "Get in this game because I can't believe the shit effort I'm seeing from <name of player putting for shit effort> Red Rum, Silverbacked1 and Cowboy Kermit 3 Quote
49r Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 Depth chart over the past 5 games PG SG SF PF C 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 68% 1 Anton Gill6-3 195 Jr 46% 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 33% 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 45% 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 45% 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 25% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 46% 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 30% 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 41% 32 Jordy Tshimanga6-11 275 Fr 35% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 7% 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 8% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 21% 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 8% 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 20% 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 16% 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 7% HuskerActuary and Norm Peterson 2 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 49r, that's a cool graphic. Is that a Kenpom thing? It should be an interesting thing to look at about 7 games into the season when the numbers are no longer distorted by the game against UMary where Miles was deliberately trying to get the new guys in as much as possible. Right now, the numbers are off a bit, obviously. But once we settle into the season a bit, that's going to be an interesting thing to come back and take a look at. Quote
Huskerpapa Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 I thought Zay played some SG in the last two games. That kind of surprises me that he has no minutes shown at that position. Oh well. Quote
atskooc Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 Wasn't there a bit of time against Mary when Jordy and MJ were on the floor at the same time? I thought I heard Kent mention that. If that's the case, shouldn't Jake have some percent of the PF minutes? They weren't both playing center. Quote
49r Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Norm Peterson said: 49r, that's a cool graphic. Is that a Kenpom thing? It should be an interesting thing to look at about 7 games into the season when the numbers are no longer distorted by the game against UMary where Miles was deliberately trying to get the new guys in as much as possible. Right now, the numbers are off a bit, obviously. But once we settle into the season a bit, that's going to be an interesting thing to come back and take a look at. Yep. KenPom. He even breaks it down into individual lineups and how much they played together. That's a different chart. Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 7 hours ago, huskercwg said: I thought Zay played some SG in the last two games. That kind of surprises me that he has no minutes shown at that position. Oh well. In the above graphic it's an educated guess based on size and weight what position the guys are playing Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 9 hours ago, 49r said: Depth chart over the past 5 games PG SG SF PF C 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 68% 1 Anton Gill6-3 195 Jr 46% 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 33% 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 45% 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 45% 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 25% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 46% 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 30% 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 41% 32 Jordy Tshimanga6-11 275 Fr 35% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 7% 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 8% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 21% 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 8% 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 20% 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 16% 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 7% Border thickness proportional to player %Poss, green shading proportional to 3PA/(.475*FTA+FGA) Percentage of possessions used (%Poss): A measure of personal possessions used while the player is on the court. Simply assigns credit or blame to a player when his actions end a possession, either by making a shot, missing a shot that isn’t rebounded by the offense, or committing a turnover. In other words, the darker the border, the more you're handling the ball the darker the green shading, the more of a 3pt threat you are (doesn't necessarily mean you make them....just measures if you take them) Quote
Chuck Taylor Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) So that means the guys with shading have the green light from outside? (rim shot!) Nothing more than a suspicion, but I'd guess Miles has told the newcomers to prove they can play defense and rebound before they start jacking up 3s. Edited November 19, 2016 by Chuck Taylor Norm Peterson 1 Quote
HB Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, Chuck Taylor said: So that means the guys with shading have the green light from outside? (rim shot!) Nothing more than a suspicion, but I'd guess Miles has told the newcomers to prove they can play defense and rebound before they start jacking up 3s. A pretty solid suspicion. It probably also applies to one on one shots out of the offense. In the first half the other night, Horne tried a dribbling, spinning baseline shot from about 10 feet, and was quickly informed that if he did that again, he would be sitting next to coach. Edited November 20, 2016 by HB Norm Peterson 1 Quote
49r Posted November 20, 2016 Report Posted November 20, 2016 Depth chart over the past 5 games PG SG SF PF C 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 75% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 56% 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 31% 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 55% 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 53% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 22% 1 Anton Gill6-3 195 Jr 26% 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 25% 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 31% 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 26% 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 19% 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 25% 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 11% 32 Jordy Tshimanga6-11 275 Fr 21% 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 14% 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 5% Most frequent lineups over the past 5 games PG SG SF PF C Pct 1 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 22.6 2 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 9.0 3 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 7.1 4 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 4.8 5 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 1 Anton Gill6-3 195 Jr 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 32 Jordy Tshimanga6-11 275 Fr 4.8 6 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 1 Anton Gill6-3 195 Jr 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 4.6 7 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 4.1 8 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 11 Evan Taylor6-5 206 Jr 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 12 Michael Jacobson6-9 239 So 4.0 9 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 15 Isaiah Roby6-8 214 Fr 10 Jack McVeigh6-8 215 So 32 Jordy Tshimanga6-11 275 Fr 3.3 10 5 Glynn Watson6-0 174 So 1 Anton Gill6-3 195 Jr 0 Tai Webster6-4 195 Sr 2 Jeriah Horne6-7 222 Fr 30 Ed Morrow6-7 234 So 3.3 UNKNOWN 13.6 Border thickness proportional to player %Poss, green shading proportional to 3PA/(.475*FTA+FGA) Position designation is estimated by an algorithm and may not reflect reality. Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 21, 2016 Report Posted November 21, 2016 I think it was @AuroranHusker but whomever it was who told me that Taylor was a lot higher than 9 on my rotation list seems spot on ATM. The thing I forgot to consider about Evan Taylor is that while he's new he's not a freshman and while did play juco ball last year he's not a Juco. Thus while I think you can argue he's not as talented as our other newcomers what he lacks in upside he delivers in experience and consistency. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
AuroranHusker Posted November 21, 2016 Report Posted November 21, 2016 47 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: I think it was @AuroranHusker but whomever it was who told me that Taylor was a lot higher than 9 on my rotation list seems spot on ATM. The thing I forgot to consider about Evan Taylor is that while he's new he's not a freshman and while did play juco ball last year he's not a Juco. Thus while I think you can argue he's not as talented as our other newcomers what he lacks in upside he delivers in experience and consistency. Yeah, I am the one who touted ET, basically since he signed this summer. And I mentioned that a lot of people will be surprised at the number of minutes that he'll have this year. hhcmatt 1 Quote
uneblinstu Posted November 21, 2016 Report Posted November 21, 2016 I've been one of those certainly suprised by how much he's playing. His game is matching up with what I heard about him, though. Solid, solid defensively. Offensive game lacks and if he has to handle the ball, buckle up. He's a role player, but all good teams need guys like that. He seems fully bought in, though and that's a huge piece of the puzzle. Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 21, 2016 Report Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, uneblinstu said: Offensive game lacks and if he has to handle the ball, buckle up. Boy it seemed to me that part of the reason he was out there was specifically help us against the pressure that LA Tech was putting on. Thus far he's seemed to grasp the importance of ball control since that 6 turnover Chadron St debut. Quote
Buglem Posted November 21, 2016 Report Posted November 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: Boy it seemed to me that part of the reason he was out there was specifically help us against the pressure that LA Tech was putting on. Thus far he's seemed to grasp the importance of ball control since that 6 turnover Chadron St debut. Totally agree Dimes. I thought he took good care of the ball and handled pressure well. One of the underrated aspects of ET and this team as a whole is their demeanor. I was impressed on Saturday night with how we never got rattled, even though seemingly every time we stretched the lead a bit, LA Tech came back and closed the gap. We never panicked and showed resiliency and tougherness that we have lacked in recent years. So far this team hasn't gotten rattled, will be interesting to see how the tourney in CA goes. AuroranHusker 1 Quote
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