uneblinstu's Post Game Chatter: Vol 8, Issue 15 - Indiana

[hskr4life]

One more thing... We as the fans sucked today. There were some here and there that got up and got loud at times but I was really disappointed in the atmosphere today.

It was a fairly standard Nebrasketball crowd. School not being in session doesn't help things. Didn't really have too much issue with what the crowd did or didn't do.

 

I audibly heard volleyball 3 clap during the opposing team announcement and Crean seemed pretty comfortable most of the time. For Indiana it was pretty dead.

I too heard the volleyball clap. There were multiple times today that we could have been a major influence. Particularly when we went on our short runs, and when Indiana had stuff go against them. We as a crowd never really made an influence in the game. I heard the Indiana bench multiple times tonight from across the court 14 rows up! The mindset of the fans is pretty disappointing right now. If you go into the game thinking we are going to lose, then crowds like this happen. We talk about the players needing to learn how to win, needing to show up every game, not be ho hum about things, but the crowd that I saw today needs to take a look in the mirror. When a team hits back to back buckets to cut into a lead at home and I am in the minority of people who are standing up going crazy... That's pathetic.

[ajb5856]

I looked up with about 8 min left in the game and Indiana was 58% and 56% from the field and from 3, respectively. Almost 60%. I know we gave them a fair share of dunks, but they also hit bunches of tough, tough jumpers and long 3 pointers, most of them reasonably guarded. Let's face it. Our first 2 opponents in big 10 play had 3, even 4 guys on the court at a time that could knock down the 3 ball. We have at most 2 guys and a majority of the time 1.5 guys who can shoot the 3.

[hhcmatt]

 

 

 

One more thing... We as the fans sucked today. There were some here and there that got up and got loud at times but I was really disappointed in the atmosphere today.

It was a fairly standard Nebrasketball crowd. School not being in session doesn't help things. Didn't really have too much issue with what the crowd did or didn't do.

 

 

I audibly heard volleyball 3 clap during the opposing team announcement and Crean seemed pretty comfortable most of the time. For Indiana it was pretty dead.

 

That's largely student led, though. The fans are all the same ones that are always there. It's about the same crowd as we've seen the past 15+ years. The student section getting back will have a big impact.

 

 

I agree there. I never realized how much of an advantage is probably is to go on the road to start the B1G.

[hhcmatt]

I looked up with about 8 min left in the game and Indiana was 58% and 56% from the field and from 3, respectively. Almost 60%. I know we gave them a fair share of dunks, but they also hit bunches of tough, tough jumpers and long 3 pointers, most of them reasonably guarded. Let's face it. Our first 2 opponents in big 10 play had 3, even 4 guys on the court at a time that could knock down the 3 ball. We have at most 2 guys and a majority of the time 1.5 guys who can shoot the 3.

 

Would you believe %-wise we're a top 100 3pt shooting team?

That's what Northwestern and Indiana are though, top 40 and top 5 three point shooting teams, respectively 

[hhcmatt]

 

I know they out-talented us in some regards but man it's ROUGH having 2 first half home leads that we couldn't turn into wins

[hhcmatt]

Miles postgame

http://www.huskers.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?id=4872606

 

White and McVeigh postgame

http://www.huskers.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?id=4872607

 

Crean postgame

http://www.huskers.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?id=4872190

[uneblinstu]

I looked up with about 8 min left in the game and Indiana was 58% and 56% from the field and from 3, respectively. Almost 60%. I know we gave them a fair share of dunks, but they also hit bunches of tough, tough jumpers and long 3 pointers, most of them reasonably guarded. Let's face it. Our first 2 opponents in big 10 play had 3, even 4 guys on the court at a time that could knock down the 3 ball. We have at most 2 guys and a majority of the time 1.5 guys who can shoot the 3.

Indiana is one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the country. Also, NU shot .284 from 3 last year (holy crap, that's terrible!!!). We're hitting .365 this year (.416 in conf. play so far). That's the best NU's shot from behind the arc since the 2009-10 season. 

 

Also, next year they should get even better when Gill joins the rotation. Him, White and McVeigh should make for a solid, solid core. And Watson's proving capable, too. We could be a top 50 shooting team next year.

[Silverbacked1]

One more thing... We as the fans sucked today. There were some here and there that got up and got loud at times but I was really disappointed in the atmosphere today.

It was a fairly standard Nebrasketball crowd. School not being in session doesn't help things. Didn't really have too much issue with what the crowd did or didn't do.

 

I audibly heard volleyball 3 clap during the opposing team announcement and Crean seemed pretty comfortable most of the time. For Indiana it was pretty dead.

I too heard the volleyball clap. There were multiple times today that we could have been a major influence. Particularly when we went on our short runs, and when Indiana had stuff go against them. We as a crowd never really made an influence in the game. I heard the Indiana bench multiple times tonight from across the court 14 rows up! The mindset of the fans is pretty disappointing right now. If you go into the game thinking we are going to lose, then crowds like this happen. We talk about the players needing to learn how to win, needing to show up every game, not be ho hum about things, but the crowd that I saw today needs to take a look in the mirror. When a team hits back to back buckets to cut into a lead at home and I am in the minority of people who are standing up going crazy... That's pathetic.

Yeah I am sending an email to the athletic department about where did the Husker Power chant go. I know I won't get an answer but I 'm going to ask. They don't even have the Husker Power on the floor when our team is being introduced. They at least was doing that earlier this year.

Also what is a foul this year? I know you can't touch them with your hand but you can knock a guy down with the body correct? We got killed a bunch and so did they, the two worst being Shavon n the break, and Yogi going to the hole once. I feared somebody was going to get hurt.

[ajb5856]

One more thing... We as the fans sucked today. There were some here and there that got up and got loud at times but I was really disappointed in the atmosphere today.

It was a fairly standard Nebrasketball crowd. School not being in session doesn't help things. Didn't really have too much issue with what the crowd did or didn't do.

I audibly heard volleyball 3 clap during the opposing team announcement and Crean seemed pretty comfortable most of the time. For Indiana it was pretty dead.

I too heard the volleyball clap. There were multiple times today that we could have been a major influence. Particularly when we went on our short runs, and when Indiana had stuff go against them. We as a crowd never really made an influence in the game. I heard the Indiana bench multiple times tonight from across the court 14 rows up! The mindset of the fans is pretty disappointing right now. If you go into the game thinking we are going to lose, then crowds like this happen. We talk about the players needing to learn how to win, needing to show up every game, not be ho hum about things, but the crowd that I saw today needs to take a look in the mirror. When a team hits back to back buckets to cut into a lead at home and I am in the minority of people who are standing up going crazy... That's pathetic.

Yeah I am sending an email to the athletic department about where did the Husker Power chant go. I know I won't get an answer but I 'm going to ask. They don't even have the Husker Power on the floor when our team is being introduced. They at least was doing that earlier this year.

Also what is a foul this year? I know you can't touch them with your hand but you can knock a guy down with the body correct? We got killed a bunch and so did they, the two worst being Shavon n the break, and Yogi going to the hole once. I feared somebody was going to get hurt.

You're being serious you don't know where the Husker Power chant went Norm? I ask because I haven't had time to read the entire board lately. They started out the year with the Husker and Power lights on the floor with the cheerleaders holding signs during the opponents introductions to help the chant along. Then after a couple games of this several boosters (probably Jean Peck plus others) complained that it was bad sportsmanship. I was told the Rebounders Club took this to the athletic department and that it was decided that the University wouldn't lead the chant any longer

[ajb5856]

Of course it doesn't help that the students are mostly gone these last couple games to help the chant out if the cheerleaders and light/scoreboard operators aren't allowed to. What gets me is that do these billionaire donors actually think an opposing player has a right or deserves to have his name heard overhead? The players certainly don't give a s*** if the opposing fans hear their name. For goodness sakes everyone has a damn program and their names appear on 50 score boards all across the arena. It's a freaking sporting event. Stay home and read about it in the paper if you think it's rude and disrespectful to cheer.

[Silverbacked1]

One more thing... We as the fans sucked today. There were some here and there that got up and got loud at times but I was really disappointed in the atmosphere today.

It was a fairly standard Nebrasketball crowd. School not being in session doesn't help things. Didn't really have too much issue with what the crowd did or didn't do.

I audibly heard volleyball 3 clap during the opposing team announcement and Crean seemed pretty comfortable most of the time. For Indiana it was pretty dead.

I too heard the volleyball clap. There were multiple times today that we could have been a major influence. Particularly when we went on our short runs, and when Indiana had stuff go against them. We as a crowd never really made an influence in the game. I heard the Indiana bench multiple times tonight from across the court 14 rows up! The mindset of the fans is pretty disappointing right now. If you go into the game thinking we are going to lose, then crowds like this happen. We talk about the players needing to learn how to win, needing to show up every game, not be ho hum about things, but the crowd that I saw today needs to take a look in the mirror. When a team hits back to back buckets to cut into a lead at home and I am in the minority of people who are standing up going crazy... That's pathetic.

Yeah I am sending an email to the athletic department about where did the Husker Power chant go. I know I won't get an answer but I 'm going to ask. They don't even have the Husker Power on the floor when our team is being introduced. They at least was doing that earlier this year.

Also what is a foul this year? I know you can't touch them with your hand but you can knock a guy down with the body correct? We got killed a bunch and so did they, the two worst being Shavon n the break, and Yogi going to the hole once. I feared somebody was going to get hurt.

You're being serious you don't know where the Husker Power chant went Norm? I ask because I haven't had time to read the entire board lately. They started out the year with the Husker and Power lights on the floor with the cheerleaders holding signs during the opponents introductions to help the chant along. Then after a couple games of this several boosters (probably Jean Peck plus others) complained that it was bad sportsmanship. I was told the Rebounders Club took this to the athletic department and that it was decided that the University wouldn't lead the chant any longer

So if I had a bunch of money and said bring it back they might think about it? Figures, same Jackasses that want the three clap instead.

I am starting to maybe rethink going to games. The powers that be could care less about me and my 6 little tickets. Well we have been really good sports lately just let the other team win yeah!

[Silverbacked1]

Of course it doesn't help that the students are mostly gone these last couple games to help the chant out if the cheerleaders and light/scoreboard operators aren't allowed to. What gets me is that do these billionaire donors actually think an opposing player has a right or deserves to have his name heard overhead? The players certainly don't give a s*** if the opposing fans hear their name. For goodness sakes everyone has a damn program and their names appear on 50 score boards all across the arena. It's a freaking sporting event. Stay home and read about it in the paper if you think it's rude and disrespectful to cheer.

Thanks for the information. And I agree 100%. Do we have the smallest student section in the B1G? I know Northwestern's is smaller but they are so much smaller in student population and seating at their home place. But you look at other schools and they seem like the lower bowls are filled with students.

Okay end of rant.

[ajb5856]

One more thing... We as the fans sucked today. There were some here and there that got up and got loud at times but I was really disappointed in the atmosphere today.

It was a fairly standard Nebrasketball crowd. School not being in session doesn't help things. Didn't really have too much issue with what the crowd did or didn't do.

I audibly heard volleyball 3 clap during the opposing team announcement and Crean seemed pretty comfortable most of the time. For Indiana it was pretty dead.

I too heard the volleyball clap. There were multiple times today that we could have been a major influence. Particularly when we went on our short runs, and when Indiana had stuff go against them. We as a crowd never really made an influence in the game. I heard the Indiana bench multiple times tonight from across the court 14 rows up! The mindset of the fans is pretty disappointing right now. If you go into the game thinking we are going to lose, then crowds like this happen. We talk about the players needing to learn how to win, needing to show up every game, not be ho hum about things, but the crowd that I saw today needs to take a look in the mirror. When a team hits back to back buckets to cut into a lead at home and I am in the minority of people who are standing up going crazy... That's pathetic.

Yeah I am sending an email to the athletic department about where did the Husker Power chant go. I know I won't get an answer but I 'm going to ask. They don't even have the Husker Power on the floor when our team is being introduced. They at least was doing that earlier this year.

Also what is a foul this year? I know you can't touch them with your hand but you can knock a guy down with the body correct? We got killed a bunch and so did they, the two worst being Shavon n the break, and Yogi going to the hole once. I feared somebody was going to get hurt.

You're being serious you don't know where the Husker Power chant went Norm? I ask because I haven't had time to read the entire board lately. They started out the year with the Husker and Power lights on the floor with the cheerleaders holding signs during the opponents introductions to help the chant along. Then after a couple games of this several boosters (probably Jean Peck plus others) complained that it was bad sportsmanship. I was told the Rebounders Club took this to the athletic department and that it was decided that the University wouldn't lead the chant any longer

So if I had a bunch of money and said bring it back they might think about it? Figures, same Jackasses that want the three clap instead.

I am starting to maybe rethink going to games. The powers that be could care less about me and my 6 little tickets. Well we have been really good sports lately just let the other team win yeah!

Oops, Silver, Norm, same guy right? Anyway Silver that's the story I heard. University was promoting the chant during opponents intros with cheerleaders and graphics, then the University pulled support after certain people thought it was rude. Typical Nebraska bullsh** where somebody thinks it "isn't the Nebraska way" or "we're better than that" or some s**t. Everyone just show up and gol durnit, win or lose everyone should give their 3 claps, and support the participants. If nobody gets hurt, it's a good night. Nobody is doing anything obscene. Nobody is directly insulting anybody. We don't have a nasty group of students or anything similar to the antlers. I don't get it but I'm not old and I don't have a billion dollars, so...clap, clap, clap.

[Haymarket Husker]

Of course the condescending 3 claps appear to be less rude to them. I disagree. It shouldn't surprise me though. It is very disappointing. I look at it in a more positive light versus being rude. We are showing our team that we are there and we have their backs and do what we can to help them win. I just don't see what the big deal is. Our fans never cease to amaze me. Condescending claps are Nebraska Nice apparently. No one will convince me they aren't condescending either, otherwise we would just clap normal for them if we were doing it for good sportsmanship.

[Silverbacked1]

Of course the condescending 3 claps appear to be less rude to them. I disagree. It shouldn't surprise me though. It is very disappointing. I look at it in a more positive light versus being rude. We are showing our team that we are there and we have their backs and do what we can to help them win. I just don't see what the big deal is. Our fans never cease to amaze me. Condescending claps are Nebraska Nice apparently. No one will convince me they aren't condescending either, otherwise we would just clap normal for them if we were doing it for good sportsmanship.

Your last sentence is spot on!

[MichHusker]

Don't know if anyone posted this yet as I didn't read all the posts, but whatever adjustments made by miles and the staff are clearly not working whatsoever. This is the second game where we have let the opposing team shoot 50% or better in the second half and the second game where we stuff led offensively which makes no sense. Miles should be able to guide and direct on offense in the second half with all the offensive action directly in front of him. Oh well...expectations have drastically dropped for the season so really I just want to see the young guys make noticeable improvements

[jimmykc]

I think we should keep the three clap intro since it is so disrespectful to the opposing team without actually being raucous. And to make it even worse for them, I suggest we go to a two clap intro. They might just turn around and go home at that point. And while I am suggesting, I really think they should sell hot tea and some fresh crumpets at the concession stands.

[demone]

IMO, there are only 2 things wrong with the fan participation:

 

1) The Husker Power Chant - we all agree this is a ridiculous stance taken by corporate wonks who don't want to offend anyone.

2) The stream of people leaving when the clock goes under 4 minutes.

 

Beyond that, I had no issues with the fans yesterday. They cheered, got loud a few times when it was warranted...heck, those that remained did what they could to extol a defensive stop when we got it down to 6 with under 4 minutes to go. At a certain point, the product on the floor has to reward the cheers and outside of 1 magical run 2 years ago, it hasn't done that in many, many years.

 

I kind of liken it to the chicken and the egg story - some believe the chicken (fans) come first, I believe the egg (results/wins) come first. We saw what it could be like 2 years ago - give the fans wins and PBA can be a really loud, tough place to play. Until then, it will continue to be inconsistent at best.

[hhcscott]

IMO, there are only 2 things wrong with the fan participation:

1) The Husker Power Chant - we all agree this is a ridiculous stance taken by corporate wonks who don't want to offend anyone.

2) The stream of people leaving when the clock goes under 4 minutes.

Beyond that, I had no issues with the fans yesterday. They cheered, got loud a few times when it was warranted...heck, those that remained did what they could to extol a defensive stop when we got it down to 6 with under 4 minutes to go. At a certain point, the product on the floor has to reward the cheers and outside of 1 magical run 2 years ago, it hasn't done that in many, many years.

I kind of liken it to the chicken and the egg story - some believe the chicken (fans) come first, I believe the egg (results/wins) come first. We saw what it could be like 2 years ago - give the fans wins and PBA can be a really loud, tough place to play. Until then, it will continue to be inconsistent at best.

I agree. Living in Tucson, even with repeat Elite 8 teams UA fans start rolling out before the end of the game.

But, that history of success fills the arena and brings the energy when the team needs a lift.

[brfrad]

Don't know if anyone posted this yet as I didn't read all the posts, but whatever adjustments made by miles and the staff are clearly not working whatsoever. This is the second game where we have let the opposing team shoot 50% or better in the second half and the second game where we stuff led offensively which makes no sense. Miles should be able to guide and direct on offense in the second half with all the offensive action directly in front of him. Oh well...expectations have drastically dropped for the season so really I just want to see the young guys make noticeable improvements

To be fair to the defense this game, nearly everyone of Yogi's shots were contested. Now, I even commented that we can't allow teams to shoot 56% and expect to win. Which is true, but sometimes it comes to the point where you don't "allow" them to shoot that percentage, they just do. I kind of felt that yesterday's game was like that.

[MichHusker]

Don't know if anyone posted this yet as I didn't read all the posts, but whatever adjustments made by miles and the staff are clearly not working whatsoever. This is the second game where we have let the opposing team shoot 50% or better in the second half and the second game where we stuff led offensively which makes no sense. Miles should be able to guide and direct on offense in the second half with all the offensive action directly in front of him. Oh well...expectations have drastically dropped for the season so really I just want to see the young guys make noticeable improvements

To be fair to the defense this game, nearly everyone of Yogi's shots were contested. Now, I even commented that we can't allow teams to shoot 56% and expect to win. Which is true, but sometimes it comes to the point where you don't "allow" them to shoot that percentage, they just do. I kind of felt that yesterday's game was like that.

It was that and an absolute inability to defend the post. I remember a play late in the second half where Bryant or bielfeldt caught a ball in the post and Andrew white came all the way across court off of Zeisloft (their best 3pt shooter statistically) to help and they kicked it out to his man for a 3. It looked to me like Andrew did it on his own and it wasn't part of the game plan

[hskr4life]

Don't know if anyone posted this yet as I didn't read all the posts, but whatever adjustments made by miles and the staff are clearly not working whatsoever. This is the second game where we have let the opposing team shoot 50% or better in the second half and the second game where we stuff led offensively which makes no sense. Miles should be able to guide and direct on offense in the second half with all the offensive action directly in front of him. Oh well...expectations have drastically dropped for the season so really I just want to see the young guys make noticeable improvements

To be fair to the defense this game, nearly everyone of Yogi's shots were contested. Now, I even commented that we can't allow teams to shoot 56% and expect to win. Which is true, but sometimes it comes to the point where you don't "allow" them to shoot that percentage, they just do. I kind of felt that yesterday's game was like that.

It was that and an absolute inability to defend the post. I remember a play late in the second half where Bryant or bielfeldt caught a ball in the post and Andrew white came all the way across court off of Zeisloft (their best 3pt shooter statistically) to help and they kicked it out to his man for a 3. It looked to me like Andrew did it on his own and it wasn't part of the game plan

I thought our post defense was better. Their post was and has been a beast through the year. It wasn't his second game. With the way Indiana was shooting and making tough contested shots, this caused us to have to get up and guard a little tighter. This then opened up driving lanes which Indiana used to drive and make some great ball movement passes. I credit Indiana for the second half they played yesterday. We will not see a lot of halves like that again for the rest of the year (so long as we continue to play as well as we did that second half).

[Swan88]

Glynn Watson made ESPN's highlights last night:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=400839285

[HB]

Glynn Watson made ESPN's highlights last night:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=400839285

 

That was a sweet play

[kldm64]

The 3 clap has got to go.  I get so mad at people around us that do it.  That is about as lame as you can get.  

 

Miles has got to figure out a rotation.  It was mind boggling the players on the court at the end of the game and the subbing pattern. Our coaching has been less than stellar this season.