Players on scholarship

[Nebrasketballer]

Which players on the roster hold scholarships?

[uneblinstu]

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[AuroranHusker]

Which players on the roster hold scholarships?

 

Current scholarship roster from 2012-13 before the new additions arrive in June incl. Tai Webster, Nate Hawkins & Nick Fuller:

 

 

JR Biggs, Deverell

Omaha, Neb. (Seward County CC) (Central)

SR Gallegos, Ray

Salt Lake City, Utah (West Jordan)

JR Menke, Trevor

Beatrice, Neb. (Beatrice)

SO Parker, Benny

Kansas City, Kan. (Sumner Academy)

SO Petteway, Terran

 

Galveston, Texas (Texas Tech) (Ball)

 

SO Pitchford, Walter

Grand Rapids, Mich. (Florida) (East Lansing Summit Christian)

 

JR Rivers, David

Little Rock, Ark. (Hall)

  

SO Shields, Shavon

Olathe, Kan. (Northwest)

SO Vucetic, Sergej

Vrbas, Serbia (AIM [Mich.] Prep)

[Nebrasketballer]

Topic moved to main board.

Sorry.  I just posted it in the recruiting board, because there was discussion in another thread on the recruiting board about how many available open scholarships Nebraska had left. My bad.

[Nebrasketballer]

Which players on the roster hold scholarships?

 

Current scholarship roster from 2012-13 before the new additions arrive in June incl. Tai Webster, Nate Hawkins & Nick Fuller:

 

 

JR Biggs, Deverell

Omaha, Neb. (Seward County CC) (Central)

SR Gallegos, Ray

Salt Lake City, Utah (West Jordan)

JR Menke, Trevor

Beatrice, Neb. (Beatrice)

SO Parker, Benny

Kansas City, Kan. (Sumner Academy)

SO Petteway, Terran

 

Galveston, Texas (Texas Tech) (Ball)

 

SO Pitchford, Walter

Grand Rapids, Mich. (Florida) (East Lansing Summit Christian)

 

JR Rivers, David

Little Rock, Ark. (Hall)

  

SO Shields, Shavon

Olathe, Kan. (Northwest)

SO Vucetic, Sergej

Vrbas, Serbia (AIM [Mich.] Prep)

Thanks.

[Norm Peterson]

Sorting by class, we'd have:

 

Senior:

 

Ray Gallegos

 

Juniors:

 

David Rivers

Deverell Biggs

(Leslee Smith?)

 

Sophomores:

 

Shavon Shields

Benny Parker

Sergej Vucetic

Walter Pitchford

Terran Petteway

(Sai Tumalla?)

 

Freshmen:

 

Nick Fuller

Nathan Hawkins

Tai Webster

(Matt Atewe?)

[uneblinstu]

Topic moved to main board.

Sorry.  I just posted it in the recruiting board, because there was discussion in another thread on the recruiting board about how many available open scholarships Nebraska had left. My bad.

No worries.

[hhcmatt]

I'll work at getting stuff like this/recruiting going on this site since we're in the offseason.

[GoBigRed]

Sorting by class, we'd have:

 

Senior:

 

Ray Gallegos

 

Juniors:

 

David Rivers

Deverell Biggs

(Leslee Smith?)

 

Sophomores:

 

Shavon Shields

Benny Parker

Sergej Vucetic

Walter Pitchford

Terran Petteway

(Sai Tumalla?)

 

Freshmen:

 

Nick Fuller

Nathan Hawkins

Tai Webster

(Matt Atewe?)

 

Is the limit 13? We'd have 11 not counting Smith, Tumalla and Atewe. If all 3 commit, that's 14. Someone would have to go (I'm guessing Parker or Vucetic?) Correct?

[Nebrasketballer]

Sorting by class, we'd have:

 

Senior:

 

Ray Gallegos

 

Juniors:

 

David Rivers

Deverell Biggs

(Leslee Smith?)

 

Sophomores:

 

Shavon Shields

Benny Parker

Sergej Vucetic

Walter Pitchford

Terran Petteway

(Sai Tumalla?)

 

Freshmen:

 

Nick Fuller

Nathan Hawkins

Tai Webster

(Matt Atewe?)

 

Is the limit 13? We'd have 11 not counting Smith, Tumalla and Atewe. If all 3 commit, that's 14. Someone would have to go (I'm guessing Parker or Vucetic?) Correct?

That's the way I understand it.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Parker and/or Vucetic move on.  I think they have the skills to be successful in a mid-major conference, but I think they are both undersized to be legitimate players in the Big Ten conference.  Guards are generally about 2" shorter on average in a mid-major conference, and centers are considerably less physically polished in mid-major conferences. 

 

At 7'1", 236 lbs, Vucetic is grossly underweight to play center and realistically needs to put on 30-35 lbs in order to go through the physical grind of the Big Ten conference and be effective. 

 

At 5'9", 164 lbs, Parker is just too small and is a liability on both offense and defense and even when he is in  relatively decent defensive position, a 6'2"-6'4" guard can still get a shot off over him.  Not to mention Parker, while quick, consistently looks like a chicken running around with his head cut off.

 

Not hating, I just think that in a mid-major conference, their lack of size (whether height or weight) would be much less glaring and much less of a set back than it is in the Big Ten conference.

[Norm Peterson]

Now, just a minute.   Not so fast.  I'm not saying we sign each of those three.  I think it's at most 2 out of 3 and maybe only 1.  That's not to say that everyone who didn't graduate will be back, but I still think Miles will want to bring in more than 1 or 2 2014 recruits.

 

The biggest year is 2015, though.  That's when we REALLY need to hit the home run.

[Norm Peterson]

Redshirt Vooch and what do you get?  Does he have potential to develop if given the time to add the weight?  He has some skills.  Good shooting touch.  Would hate to "get rid of him" so to speak and then see him really blossom for someone else.

[Huskerpapa]

I am not going to disagree or argue with anyone regarding Vucetic.  I was very surprised at his lack of playing time along with the decision not to redshirt him.  I guess that makes sense to someone, just not me. 

 

That said, if someone would have told me that, as a freshman, Jeff Withey of KU, would develop into the player he is today, I would have been a bit of a skeptic.  Yet, he is a very import cog in the current KU squad.  I am not say Vooch can reach that level of play, but then again, I am not willing to simply dismiss him as someone who could never develop.  He does have offensive game.  He lacks mucho strength...but that is something that could change fairly drastically over the next three years. 

 

Again, my optimism is somewhat tamed by the fact that he did not redshirt this year...but when I look at Withey, Mikki Moore and many other big men, I guess I hold out hope that Vooch may end up being a pretty good player for us.  If you noticed, he does not have hair on his legs yet

 

http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/withey_jeff00.html

[Silverbacked1]

Ah yes our weekly debated over Benny and the Vooch.

[hskr4life]

Ah yes our weekly debated over Benny and the Vooch.

 

Where is that beating a dead horse image at again. 

[TheKamdyMan]

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome.  If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed.  If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes.  I see it as a win win for bothparties.

[49r]

Ah yes our weekly debated over Benny and the Vooch.

 

 

BENNY!

 

[Nebrasketballer]

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome.  If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed.  If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes.  I see it as a win win for bothparties.

Yeah, I agree.  I guess I didn't think about him having that extra year to redshirt if he were to transfer, so he doesn't lose a year of eligibility.

[Norm Peterson]

CWG, speaking of Jeff Withey (pronounced WITH-eee), on the NCAA Tourney broadcasts, Charles Barkley pronounced it WHITE-eee.  Yes, KU starts that Whitey guy at center.  No one called Charles on it.  Just let that one go.

[NUdiehard]

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome.  If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed.  If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes.  I see it as a win win for bothparties.

I suppose if you tell yourself something enough times you can convince yourself of it even if it logically doesn't make sense. 

 

If Vooch had RS this year, he would still have 4 years of eligibility left.  Thus, even if he transferred after next year (or any other year) he would have EXACTLY the SAME amount of eligibility left as he does under the current arrangement where he preserved his RS. 

 

However, if Vooch stays, and if he improves, but not until his third year in the program, he will only have 2 years of productive service to this team, whereas if he had RS this year, he would have 3 years productive service to the team, including a 5th year RS Senior year which would be his BEST year of service, and better than any service he will be able to provide under the current arrangement (in which he will only be able to play through his 4th year b/c he will lose his eiligibiltiy after that 4th year).

 

Withey is a prime example of a big man who was terrible his first 2 years, but then blossomed and is now a key cog in a NCAA #1 seed at KU.  Let's just hypothetically say that Vooch turns out to be even a poor-man's Withey (which would be very, very good under NU standards) by his 4th year in the program.  Do you really think that Miles can just go and land a freshman big man at that point who will come in AS A  FRESHMAN and be as good or better than Vooch would be his 5th year as a RS Senior?  I think that is being wildly optimistic beyond reason.  The more rational approach would be to preserve the ability to retain Vooch for that 5th year of service when he will be at his PEAK strength and productiveness.  That is exactly the approach that a program like NU should be taking that is trying to find diamonds in the rough and hidden gems and develop them into players that can compete at a high level by their 4th and 5th years in the program.  Vooch gained absolutely nothing by playing 10 minutes this year that he couldn't have also gained by simply practicing with the team every day just as he did, whether he played those 10 minutes or not.  And if Vooch turns out to be a bust and it becomes obvious he will never be able to play at this level, Miles could help him find a new lower-level school, and as I said above, he would still have EXACTLY the same amount of eligility remaining at that new school.  There is no gain to him by saving the RS for the transfer process.

[TheKamdyMan]

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome.  If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed.  If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes.  I see it as a win win for bothparties.

I suppose if you tell yourself something enough times you can convince yourself of it even if it logically doesn't make sense. 

 

If Vooch had RS this year, he would still have 4 years of eligibility left.  Thus, even if he transferred after next year (or any other year) he would have EXACTLY the SAME amount of eligibility left as he does under the current arrangement where he preserved his RS. 

 

However, if Vooch stays, and if he improves, but not until his third year in the program, he will only have 2 years of productive service to this team, whereas if he had RS this year, he would have 3 years productive service to the team, including a 5th year RS Senior year which would be his BEST year of service, and better than any service he will be able to provide under the current arrangement (in which he will only be able to play through his 4th year b/c he will lose his eiligibiltiy after that 4th year).

 

Withey is a prime example of a big man who was terrible his first 2 years, but then blossomed and is now a key cog in a NCAA #1 seed at KU.  Let's just hypothetically say that Vooch turns out to be even a poor-man's Withey (which would be very, very good under NU standards) by his 4th year in the program.  Do you really think that Miles can just go and land a freshman big man at that point who will come in AS A  FRESHMAN and be as good or better than Vooch would be his 5th year as a RS Senior?  I think that is being wildly optimistic beyond reason.  The more rational approach would be to preserve the ability to retain Vooch for that 5th year of service when he will be at his PEAK strength and productiveness.  That is exactly the approach that a program like NU should be taking that is trying to find diamonds in the rough and hidden gems and develop them into players that can compete at a high level by their 4th and 5th years in the program.  Vooch gained absolutely nothing by playing 10 minutes this year that he couldn't have also gained by simply practicing with the team every day just as he did, whether he played those 10 minutes or not.  And if Vooch turns out to be a bust and it becomes obvious he will never be able to play at this level, Miles could help him find a new lower-level school, and as I said above, he would still have EXACTLY the same amount of eligility remaining at that new school.  There is no gain to him by saving the RS for the transfer process.

 

So you want to compare one of the nation best centers coming out of high school and Vooch?  He was the 36th best OVERALL player in the country.  He was EXPECTED to be good.  Come on now dont try and come with some ludicrous claims that Serge was ever expected to be that good.  Next youre going to tell me we need to give Benny Parker a break because one of the nations best point guards struggled early in his career so it means he should be able to do the same.

[Cookie Belcher]

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome. If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed. If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes. I see it as a win win for bothparties.

I suppose if you tell yourself something enough times you can convince yourself of it even if it logically doesn't make sense.

If Vooch had RS this year, he would still have 4 years of eligibility left. Thus, even if he transferred after next year (or any other year) he would have EXACTLY the SAME amount of eligibility left as he does under the current arrangement where he preserved his RS.

However, if Vooch stays, and if he improves, but not until his third year in the program, he will only have 2 years of productive service to this team, whereas if he had RS this year, he would have 3 years productive service to the team, including a 5th year RS Senior year which would be his BEST year of service, and better than any service he will be able to provide under the current arrangement (in which he will only be able to play through his 4th year b/c he will lose his eiligibiltiy after that 4th year).

Withey is a prime example of a big man who was terrible his first 2 years, but then blossomed and is now a key cog in a NCAA #1 seed at KU. Let's just hypothetically say that Vooch turns out to be even a poor-man's Withey (which would be very, very good under NU standards) by his 4th year in the program. Do you really think that Miles can just go and land a freshman big man at that point who will come in AS A FRESHMAN and be as good or better than Vooch would be his 5th year as a RS Senior? I think that is being wildly optimistic beyond reason. The more rational approach would be to preserve the ability to retain Vooch for that 5th year of service when he will be at his PEAK strength and productiveness. That is exactly the approach that a program like NU should be taking that is trying to find diamonds in the rough and hidden gems and develop them into players that can compete at a high level by their 4th and 5th years in the program. Vooch gained absolutely nothing by playing 10 minutes this year that he couldn't have also gained by simply practicing with the team every day just as he did, whether he played those 10 minutes or not. And if Vooch turns out to be a bust and it becomes obvious he will never be able to play at this level, Miles could help him find a new lower-level school, and as I said above, he would still have EXACTLY the same amount of eligility remaining at that new school. There is no gain to him by saving the RS for the transfer process.

I think not redshirting him was for the best if he does stay at UNL, though. That way he only takes up a scholly for 4 years instead of 5.

[NUdiehard]

 

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome. If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed. If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes. I see it as a win win for bothparties.

I suppose if you tell yourself something enough times you can convince yourself of it even if it logically doesn't make sense.

If Vooch had RS this year, he would still have 4 years of eligibility left. Thus, even if he transferred after next year (or any other year) he would have EXACTLY the SAME amount of eligibility left as he does under the current arrangement where he preserved his RS.

However, if Vooch stays, and if he improves, but not until his third year in the program, he will only have 2 years of productive service to this team, whereas if he had RS this year, he would have 3 years productive service to the team, including a 5th year RS Senior year which would be his BEST year of service, and better than any service he will be able to provide under the current arrangement (in which he will only be able to play through his 4th year b/c he will lose his eiligibiltiy after that 4th year).

Withey is a prime example of a big man who was terrible his first 2 years, but then blossomed and is now a key cog in a NCAA #1 seed at KU. Let's just hypothetically say that Vooch turns out to be even a poor-man's Withey (which would be very, very good under NU standards) by his 4th year in the program. Do you really think that Miles can just go and land a freshman big man at that point who will come in AS A FRESHMAN and be as good or better than Vooch would be his 5th year as a RS Senior? I think that is being wildly optimistic beyond reason. The more rational approach would be to preserve the ability to retain Vooch for that 5th year of service when he will be at his PEAK strength and productiveness. That is exactly the approach that a program like NU should be taking that is trying to find diamonds in the rough and hidden gems and develop them into players that can compete at a high level by their 4th and 5th years in the program. Vooch gained absolutely nothing by playing 10 minutes this year that he couldn't have also gained by simply practicing with the team every day just as he did, whether he played those 10 minutes or not. And if Vooch turns out to be a bust and it becomes obvious he will never be able to play at this level, Miles could help him find a new lower-level school, and as I said above, he would still have EXACTLY the same amount of eligility remaining at that new school. There is no gain to him by saving the RS for the transfer process.

I think not redshirting him was for the best if he does stay at UNL, though. That way he only takes up a scholly for 4 years instead of 5.

As I already stated, if it becomes apparent that he wil never develop into a productive big man, then Miles could help him find a new school at any time during his tenure here.  Miles is not required to keep him for all 5 years.  This is common and happens at every school every year.  The coach sits the player down and says"Vooch, we thank you for all your efforts and you are welcome to stay if you want, but I need to be honest and tell you that you probably will never play another minute if you remain here.  I wanted to be honest and tell you this so that if you want to transfer, you can start the process now and I will help you find a good school where you can play and be productive." 

 

I really don't understand why this is so complicated.

[NUdiehard]

 

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome.  If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed.  If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes.  I see it as a win win for bothparties.

I suppose if you tell yourself something enough times you can convince yourself of it even if it logically doesn't make sense. 

 

If Vooch had RS this year, he would still have 4 years of eligibility left.  Thus, even if he transferred after next year (or any other year) he would have EXACTLY the SAME amount of eligibility left as he does under the current arrangement where he preserved his RS. 

 

However, if Vooch stays, and if he improves, but not until his third year in the program, he will only have 2 years of productive service to this team, whereas if he had RS this year, he would have 3 years productive service to the team, including a 5th year RS Senior year which would be his BEST year of service, and better than any service he will be able to provide under the current arrangement (in which he will only be able to play through his 4th year b/c he will lose his eiligibiltiy after that 4th year).

 

Withey is a prime example of a big man who was terrible his first 2 years, but then blossomed and is now a key cog in a NCAA #1 seed at KU.  Let's just hypothetically say that Vooch turns out to be even a poor-man's Withey (which would be very, very good under NU standards) by his 4th year in the program.  Do you really think that Miles can just go and land a freshman big man at that point who will come in AS A  FRESHMAN and be as good or better than Vooch would be his 5th year as a RS Senior?  I think that is being wildly optimistic beyond reason.  The more rational approach would be to preserve the ability to retain Vooch for that 5th year of service when he will be at his PEAK strength and productiveness.  That is exactly the approach that a program like NU should be taking that is trying to find diamonds in the rough and hidden gems and develop them into players that can compete at a high level by their 4th and 5th years in the program.  Vooch gained absolutely nothing by playing 10 minutes this year that he couldn't have also gained by simply practicing with the team every day just as he did, whether he played those 10 minutes or not.  And if Vooch turns out to be a bust and it becomes obvious he will never be able to play at this level, Miles could help him find a new lower-level school, and as I said above, he would still have EXACTLY the same amount of eligility remaining at that new school.  There is no gain to him by saving the RS for the transfer process.

 

So you want to compare one of the nation best centers coming out of high school and Vooch?  He was the 36th best OVERALL player in the country.  He was EXPECTED to be good.  Come on now dont try and come with some ludicrous claims that Serge was ever expected to be that good.  Next youre going to tell me we need to give Benny Parker a break because one of the nations best point guards struggled early in his career so it means he should be able to do the same.

Ummmm, I didn't compare Vooch to anyone.  I just made a hypothetical.  And even in that hypothetical, I referred to the possibility that Vooch could become a hypothetical "poor-man's" Withey (which I still maintain would be very good for NU).  I also gave a hypothetical that Vooch could turn out to be a complete bust.  I did not give either one more credence that the other.  My point as that either way, the logical choice would have been to RS Vooch this year.

 

And what "expectations" a player has when he is signed or arrives on campus is irrelevant.  The only thing that matters is what a player is and what he can become.  Coaches bring in 5 stars who are busts all the time, and coaches bring in 2 stars who turn out to be All-conference players.  I am not saying Vooch is either one, I am just saying that either way, the logical choice would have been to RS him.

 

 

Whether Vooch turns out to be anywhere near as good as Withey is completely irrelevant to my point, which was that it doesn't matter whether Vooch is boom or bust, that it doesn't change the position that it would have been better to RS him this year.  I notice that you didn't even bother to address that issue.

[TheKamdyMan]

 

 

I think not redshirting Vucetic is the best for Nebraska regardless of the outcome.  If he pans out great we still have 3 years with him and by 2016 I'd be hopeful TM has turned it around and can get a player of equal or better ability than SV was when he signed.  If he doesnt work out then it gives SV a chance to transfer and save a year wherever he goes.  I see it as a win win for bothparties.

I suppose if you tell yourself something enough times you can convince yourself of it even if it logically doesn't make sense. 

 

If Vooch had RS this year, he would still have 4 years of eligibility left.  Thus, even if he transferred after next year (or any other year) he would have EXACTLY the SAME amount of eligibility left as he does under the current arrangement where he preserved his RS. 

 

However, if Vooch stays, and if he improves, but not until his third year in the program, he will only have 2 years of productive service to this team, whereas if he had RS this year, he would have 3 years productive service to the team, including a 5th year RS Senior year which would be his BEST year of service, and better than any service he will be able to provide under the current arrangement (in which he will only be able to play through his 4th year b/c he will lose his eiligibiltiy after that 4th year).

 

Withey is a prime example of a big man who was terrible his first 2 years, but then blossomed and is now a key cog in a NCAA #1 seed at KU.  Let's just hypothetically say that Vooch turns out to be even a poor-man's Withey (which would be very, very good under NU standards) by his 4th year in the program.  Do you really think that Miles can just go and land a freshman big man at that point who will come in AS A  FRESHMAN and be as good or better than Vooch would be his 5th year as a RS Senior?  I think that is being wildly optimistic beyond reason.  The more rational approach would be to preserve the ability to retain Vooch for that 5th year of service when he will be at his PEAK strength and productiveness.  That is exactly the approach that a program like NU should be taking that is trying to find diamonds in the rough and hidden gems and develop them into players that can compete at a high level by their 4th and 5th years in the program.  Vooch gained absolutely nothing by playing 10 minutes this year that he couldn't have also gained by simply practicing with the team every day just as he did, whether he played those 10 minutes or not.  And if Vooch turns out to be a bust and it becomes obvious he will never be able to play at this level, Miles could help him find a new lower-level school, and as I said above, he would still have EXACTLY the same amount of eligility remaining at that new school.  There is no gain to him by saving the RS for the transfer process.

 

So you want to compare one of the nation best centers coming out of high school and Vooch?  He was the 36th best OVERALL player in the country.  He was EXPECTED to be good.  Come on now dont try and come with some ludicrous claims that Serge was ever expected to be that good.  Next youre going to tell me we need to give Benny Parker a break because one of the nations best point guards struggled early in his career so it means he should be able to do the same.

Ummmm, I didn't compare Vooch to anyone.  I just made a hypothetical.  And even in that hypothetical, I referred to the possibility that Vooch could become a hypothetical "poor-man's" Withey (which I still maintain would be very good for NU).

 

And what "expectations" a player has when he is signed or arrives on campus is irrelevant.  The only thing that matters is what a player is and what he can become.  Coaches bring in 5 stars who are busts all the time, and coaches bring in 2 stars who turn out to be All-conference players.  I am not saying Vooch is either one, I am just saying that either way, the logical choice would have been to RS him.

 

 

Whether Vooch turns out to be anywhere near as good as Withey is completely irrelevant to my point, which was that it doesn't matter whether Vooch is boom or bust, that it doesn't change the position that it would have been better to RS him this year.  I notice that you didn't even bother to address that issue.

 

I've already stated numerous times I was all for them to NOT redshirt him.  Basketball unlike any other sport you can easily turn your program around in a few short years, if not even one year.  With that being the case do you want to saddle yourself with someone who "might" pan out 4 years from now or have someone that can make an impact today that helps your recruiting tomorrow.  Nebraska needs players that can contribute now more than anything and if a player cannot there isnt a need to keep them around if you dont feel they can help your team in the next year.  Miles knows he needs to turn things much faster at a big time program than he did at any other school which is why you see him scouring every inch of the earth trying to find guys that can compete right now.  Once you get to a level of Kansas, when you can stockpile talent, then you can consider letting a guy redshirt but when youre 10th in the B1G changes need to happen now.