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[hskr4life]

Close enough to 2025 andddd

 

 

[AuroranHusker]

Well, that's odd timing, did Jim L. find coal in his stocking?

[Dead Dog Alley]

5 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

Well, that's odd timing, did Jim L. find coal in his stocking?

He finally realized that he's 75 years old.

 

Danny Nee remains the oldest coach NU has ever had; he was 54 when Bill Byrne ran him out of town.

[Huskerpapa]

 

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[kldm64]

1 hour ago, Huskerpapa said:

 

 

Can't blame him.  It's gotta to be extremely difficult to be a college coach these days.  He is 100% accurate when he says we have to ask ourselves what is this all about.  Seems like kids prefer more money as opposed to winning these days.  Hard to judge cause if I was a 20 year old athlete, I'd probably want to make as much money as I could as well.  

Edited December 26, 2024 by kldm64

[Faux Mike Peltz]

I hate this new NIL world

i also don’t fault an athlete who has a small window to capitalize on it. In many cases, it’s a way to provide for the athletes’ family as well.

i still dislike it though 

[hhcmatt]

Uh, JL sure seemed to like NIL when they were paying Nigel Pack $800k and going to the final 4. NIL makes a great scapegoat when you're 75 and losing buy games 

[Vinny]

I understand there is likely frustration with NIL for these reasons, but the pendulum has been too far one way for too long. It’s going to be a turbulent time for a while, then it will settle down.

[Cazzie22]

The NIL Pandora’s Box has been opened and it cannot be closed without a great deal of controversy and pain.  I am not against providing Name, Image and Likeness money but the buying of players was never the intent.  A college degree does have value but that doesn’t seem to matter.

[kldm64]

1 hour ago, Vinny said:

I understand there is likely frustration with NIL for these reasons, but the pendulum has been too far one way for too long. It’s going to be a turbulent time for a while, then it will settle down.

 

The pendulum has not been to far one way as the "student athletes" have always been compensated with a free education, clothes, meals, money, etc.  Some of us had to pay for our education and take out student loans to pay back but athletes walk out of college with no student debt of tens (or sometimes hundreds) of thousands of dollars.  Guess an education isn't considered compensation to you.

 

It's going to stay turbulent as who is going to regulate it??  The money these kids make will just continue to grow till athletes are making more than the coaches.  Not sure how you think it will settle down.  It's just going to keep getting worse.  

[Vinny]

7 minutes ago, kldm64 said:

 

The pendulum has not been to far one way as the "student athletes" have always been compensated with a free education, clothes, meals, money, etc.  Some of us had to pay for our education and take out student loans to pay back but athletes walk out of college with no student debt of tens (or sometimes hundreds) of thousands of dollars.  Guess an education isn't considered compensation to you.

 

It's going to stay turbulent as who is going to regulate it??  The money these kids make will just continue to grow till athletes are making more than the coaches.  Not sure how you think it will settle down.  It's just going to keep getting worse.  

When people are making billions, with a capital B, off your labor and you get crumbs, it is not equitable. I paid for my school, with loans and their interest, and that in no way makes me think these athletes shouldn’t get paid for their skilled labor while their bodies allow them to do the work.

 

Multi year contracts and conference led regulation are on the way. 

[B-town hoopsfan]

I don’t think they ever get a handle on the money side of things, they just need to start making these contracts 2/3 year commitments from both the school and the player. If the player wants out he has to repay whatever his previous school still owes him and sit out a year. The school should have no way to get out of it.  That would drastically bring this stuff back to earth. Bring back the 5 years to play 4 and get rid of all this 6th-8th year bullshit too. 

[kldm64]

2 hours ago, Vinny said:

When people are making billions, with a capital B, off your labor and you get crumbs, it is not equitable. I paid for my school, with loans and their interest, and that in no way makes me think these athletes shouldn’t get paid for their skilled labor while their bodies allow them to do the work.

 

Multi year contracts and conference led regulation are on the way. 

 

First of all, people (individuals) aren't making billions but rather a corporation might be.  So not sure how you don't consider a free education, meals, clothes and cash each month compensation???  That is easily over $100,000 compensation for each athlete.  You may not think that is alot of money but I do.  Granted the university and NCAA is making alot of money off their product but the athletes have always been compensated even if it's not as much as you think it should be.  So basically we really don't need a separate category for college and pro level now since they are all getting paid and there isn't any difference.

[Crush78]

56 minutes ago, kldm64 said:

 

First of all, people (individuals) aren't making billions but rather a corporation might be.  So not sure how you don't consider a free education, meals, clothes and cash each month compensation???  That is easily over $100,000 compensation for each athlete.  You may not think that is alot of money but I do.  Granted the university and NCAA is making alot of money off their product but the athletes have always been compensated even if it's not as much as you think it should be.  So basically we really don't need a separate category for college and pro level now since they are all getting paid and there isn't any difference.

If the company you worked for was signing contracts in the billions, that relied on your work product, would you be satisfied with the same level of comp as before the giant contract?  Tuition room board etc were fair comp back when the TV contract was Raycom sports regionally on Saturday afternoon. Schools making tons more money now, workers expect and deserve some of that

[Huskerpapa]

Let's be real, prior to NIL a significant number of big time programs were paying athletes under the table.  Even more were being compensated by boosters.  Those who were stupid were caught and punished. 

Today, most of the payments are now above board and (I would think) taxed.

The problems today include regulation, contracts, allegiance, booster reliance and failure to engage the core fans.

High schools and middle schools are next.

I heard talking heads complain, before NIL, that coaches could up and leave and the poor kids who were recruited by that staff were left behind.  What they didn't say was that coaches oftentimes had a contract and had to buy out of the contract.   Also, now that these players are compensated for their play, you have to start talking about the peripheral compensation package such as workers compensation,  disability payments, long term health benefits, spousal/family health benefits and so forth.  Also, is it discrimination to limit a players eligibility to 4 years?  Why not six or 8 years?

Goodness, we honestly are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. 

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Huskerpapa