Drivable First-round Venues

[aphilso1]

2 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

I imagine Purdue will get the 1 seed in Indy, and if we’re 8-9 seed, that throws this possibility out? I’m struggling to find location by seeds 

 

Agreed that Purdue will likely get the 1 seed in Indy, and that means we likely won't be the 8/9 in Indy with them.  But don't forget that the committee will sometimes move a team up or down a line (particularly teams ranked as a 7 seed or worse) in order to facilitate other matchup goals.  So even if we are supposed to be an 8/9, we could be moved up to a 7 or down to a 10.  Indianapolis still a potential landing spot, even if we are precluded from playing a second round matchup against Purdue.

 

Also, they don't establish "locations by seeds."  That is a byproduct of all the other decisions.  They want to keep the top seeds as close to home as possible.  They also avoid conference foes playing each other on opening weekend.  Whatever locations are used for specific seeding matchups is a result of this, rather than a predetermined decision like  "Indy gets the 1/16 and 8/9, SLC gets the 2/15 and 7/10, etc".

[AuroranHusker]

Just now, doc1394 said:

Got it, thanks. So when everyone is saying they want to be a 7 or 10 seed so they can be in Omaha that’s not necessarily true? Omaha doesnt have to be 7-10?

 

No, it's just most likely because either KU or Iowa St. can be a 2-seed or 3-seed in Omaha... and, pure speculation on everyone's part but it makes sense that either/both KU/ISU make it to Omaha since it's nearby & that's HOW the 7-10 or 6-11 could also be in Omaha.

[aphilso1]

3 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

Got it, thanks. So when everyone is saying they want to be a 7 or 10 seed so they can be in Omaha that’s not necessarily true? Omaha doesnt have to be 7-10?

 

The committee really doesn't like punishing their high seeds by making them play early round matchups so close to a lower-seeded opponent's home arena.  They flat out won't do that to a 1 seed, but it's possible for a 2 seed (still not the committee's preference, but sometimes that is the only choice).  I think when people say they want to be a 7/10 to play in Omaha, they simply mean that being a 7/10 makes it at least possible to get the Omaha draw, even if still unlikely.  If we are in an 8/9 matchup, there is basically a 0% chance the Committee will put us in Omaha and force a 1 seed play the equivalent of a second round road game.

[aphilso1]

9 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

No, it's just most likely because either KU or Iowa St. can be a 2-seed or 3-seed in Omaha... and, pure speculation on everyone's part but it makes sense that either/both KU/ISU make it to Omaha since it's nearby & that's HOW the 7-10 or 6-11 could also be in Omaha.

If we can go deep in the B1G Tourney and work our way up to a 6 seed, I think that gives us the best chance to play in Omaha.  

[hhcmatt]

11 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

 

The committee really doesn't like punishing their high seeds by making them play early round matchups so close to a lower-seeded opponent's home arena.  They flat out won't do that to a 1 seed, but it's possible for a 2 seed (still not the committee's preference, but sometimes that is the only choice).  I think when people say they want to be a 7/10 to play in Omaha, they simply mean that being a 7/10 makes it at least possible to get the Omaha draw, even if still unlikely.  If we are in an 8/9 matchup, there is basically a 0% chance the Committee will put us in Omaha and force a 1 seed play the equivalent of a second round road game.

 

Auburn as a 9 seed was placed two hours from campus vs #1 Houtson last year so they absolutely will make that type of placement. 

 

As far as Omaha this year, it's simply unlikely a 1 seed will be placed there because the teams that likely will be #1 seeds are closer to other sites.

[doc1394]

So is it safe to say the closest most likely 8/9 seed location is Memphis?

[jimmykc]

Time for a musical interlude:                                       

 

[hhcmatt]

21 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

So is it safe to say the closest most likely 8/9 seed location is Memphis?

 

That would be my assumption. However we're looking at other Big 10 teams also being 8-9 seeds so we likely could end up anywhere. In the unlikely scenario that Marquette could get a 1 seed, that would be a way for us to play as a 8/9 in Indy.

[TourneyBound]

37 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

So is it safe to say the closest most likely 8/9 seed location is Memphis?

Which will have Houston as the 1....

[aphilso1]

35 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Auburn as a 9 seed was placed two hours from campus vs #1 Houtson last year so they absolutely will make that type of placement. 

 

As far as Omaha this year, it's simply unlikely a 1 seed will be placed there because the teams that likely will be #1 seeds are closer to other sites.

 

I hear you, but 2 hours and 11 minutes from Auburn to Birmingham is not the same thing as 56 minutes from Omaha to Lincoln.  I've never seen a 1 seed play an opening weekend road game inside of the opponent fanbase's daily commute.

[HuskerFever]

2 minutes ago, TourneyBound said:

39 minutes ago, doc1394 said:

So is it safe to say the closest most likely 8/9 seed location is Memphis?

Which will have Houston as the 1....

 

Just one game at a time...

[Cazzie22]

I hope the committee doesn’t seed on past reputation. Kansas is not a great team this year but will probably get a high seed.  Michigan St will be seeded above us despite our victory and better conference record. Granted, those teams play a tough non conference schedule.  I just hope we are in the tournament and wherever we are assigned that we play a great game.

[hhcmatt]

4 hours ago, aphilso1 said:

 

I hear you, but 2 hours and 11 minutes from Auburn to Birmingham is not the same thing as 56 minutes from Omaha to Lincoln.  I've never seen a 1 seed play an opening weekend road game inside of the opponent fanbase's daily commute.

 

https://theathletic.com/5293192/2024/02/23/ncaa-tournament-bracket-watch-charles-mcclelland/

 

 

https://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/files/finalfourprinciples.pdf

[hhcmatt]

Distances from Lincoln

 

CHI Center, Omaha, NE -- 58.5 miles; 1 hr 3 min

Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN -- 650.1 miles; 9 hrs 51 min

FedExForum, Memphis, TN -- 652.2 miles; 10 hrs 22 min

Vivint Smart Home Arena, Salt Lake City, UT -- 879.4 miles; 12 hrs 59 min

PPG Paints Arena, Pittsburgh, PA -- 969 miles; 14 hrs 34 minutes

Spectrum Center, Charlotte, NC -- 1162 miles; 17 hrs 28 min

Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY -- 1358 miles; 21 hrs 10 min

Spokane Veterans Memorial Arena, Spokane, WA -- 1389 miles; 21 hrs 11 min

[unl]

Based on these last two posts, there is a very good chance we’ll be in Omaha, Indy, or Memphis? If not those…Pittsburgh or SLC? I don’t see us going to the coasts. 

[Cazzie22]

Spokane is nice this time of year.  

[Nebrasketball1979]

1 hour ago, unl said:

Based on these last two posts, there is a very good chance we’ll be in Omaha, Indy, or Memphis? If not those…Pittsburgh or SLC? I don’t see us going to the coasts. 

Anywhere but Brooklyn for my tastes but as they say, beggars can't be choosers!

[aphilso1]

6 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

https://theathletic.com/5293192/2024/02/23/ncaa-tournament-bracket-watch-charles-mcclelland/

 

 

https://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/files/finalfourprinciples.pdf

Except Section III of the bracketing principles you linked states that they “shall not place teams seeded on the first four lines at a potential 'home-crowd disadvantage' in the second round.”

[AuroranHusker]

13 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

Except Section III of the bracketing principles you linked states that they “shall not place teams seeded on the first four lines at a potential 'home-crowd disadvantage' in the second round.”

 

If it's Iowa St. or KU in Omaha, how is that a disadvantage to them? I have a hard time believing those two in particular couldn't buy up the tickets at a heavy premium, because we all know they would...

 

Edited March 5 by AuroranHusker

[hhcmatt]

9 hours ago, aphilso1 said:

Except Section III of the bracketing principles you linked states that they “shall not place teams seeded on the first four lines at a potential 'home-crowd disadvantage' in the second round.”

 

Perhaps I'm misreading this

 

 if that’s where those teams would go according to bracketing principles and they’re not top-4 seeds

[Chuck Taylor]

10 hours ago, aphilso1 said:

Except Section III of the bracketing principles you linked states that they “shall not place teams seeded on the first four lines at a potential 'home-crowd disadvantage' in the second round.”

I understand that not incompletely, with the exception of everything that I don't.

[hhcmatt]

1 minute ago, Chuck Taylor said:

I understand that not incompletely, with the exception of everything that I don't.

 

reads like stereo instructions

[Art Vandalay]

13 hours ago, unl said:

Based on these last two posts, there is a very good chance we’ll be in Omaha, Indy, or Memphis? If not those…Pittsburgh or SLC? I don’t see us going to the coasts. 

It looks to me like Omaha only has 6v11 and 3v14 games so unless we move up I don’t see us here.

 

7-10 seeds in Indy or Memphis would seem to be the most likely. 

 

I’m going off CBS bracket so hopefully they have it correct.

[hhcmatt]

31 minutes ago, Art Vandalay said:

It looks to me like Omaha only has 6v11 and 3v14 games so unless we move up I don’t see us here.

 

7-10 seeds in Indy or Memphis would seem to be the most likely. 

 

I’m going off CBS bracket so hopefully they have it correct.

 

It's all dependent on what Iowa St and/or Kansas do as they're likely going to Omaha regardless of how they're seeded.  In the scenario you're looking at, Iowa St and Kansas are 3 seeds and thus you're correct that there is no 7-10 game played there.  One of those two teams making it to and/or winning the Big 12 title game sure would go a long way towards putting Nebraska into Omaha.  It's possible that either team winning out could put them into position for the last #1 seed.

[Norm Peterson]

46 minutes ago, Art Vandalay said:

It looks to me like Omaha only has 6v11 and 3v14 games so unless we move up I don’t see us here.

 

7-10 seeds in Indy or Memphis would seem to be the most likely. 

 

I’m going off CBS bracket so hopefully they have it correct.

 

What do we have to do to get a 6-seed? Beat Michigan, first. Then Wisconsin in the 4-5 game? If we lose to Purdue after that, do we top out at maybe a 7-seed? Hell of a lot rather be a 7 than an 8 or 9.  But a 6-seed would be even better.