KenPom 2023-2024 KenPom Rankings Thread

[49r]

14 minutes ago, tcp said:

ouch. non-conf leaves the B1G in a bad way....4 teams 100+? Ouch, that hurts bad. 

 

Yeah, it's Big East bad for sure.  Definitely a down year for the Big Ten.

 

 

Conference		Rating	Conference		Rating
1	Big 12 Conference	+17.70	18	Big South Conference	-4.14
2	Southeastern Conference	+14.86	19	Coastal Athletic Association	-4.21
3	Big Ten Conference	+14.23	20	Mid American Conference	-4.21
4	Big East Conference	+14.22	21	Big Sky Conference	-4.76
5	Pac 12 Conference	+12.57	22	Summit League	-4.97
6	Atlantic Coast Conference	+11.34	23	Horizon League	-5.22
7	Mountain West Conference	+7.93	24	America East Conference	-5.70
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.31	25	ASUN Conference	-6.19
9	American Athletic Conference	+3.09	26	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-8.07
10	Missouri Valley Conference	+2.83	27	Ohio Valley Conference	-10.53
11	West Coast Conference	+2.49	28	Southland Conference	-10.90
12	Ivy League	-0.08	29	Patriot League	-11.62
13	Western Athletic Conference	-0.51	30	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-12.90
14	Conference USA	-0.82	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-13.28
15	Southern Conference	-2.76	32	Northeast Conference	-14.76
16	Big West Conference	-2.81	33	Independents	-15.80
17	Sun Belt Conference	-2.96

[Chuck Taylor]

3 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

 

I wonder how he got that. Couldn't find that feature on the menu.

[hhcmatt]

16 minutes ago, Chuck Taylor said:

I wonder how he got that. Couldn't find that feature on the menu.

 

 

[aphilso1]

3 hours ago, 49r said:

 

Yeah, it's Big East bad for sure.  Definitely a down year for the Big Ten.

 

 

Conference		Rating	Conference		Rating
1	Big 12 Conference	+17.70	18	Big South Conference	-4.14
2	Southeastern Conference	+14.86	19	Coastal Athletic Association	-4.21
3	Big Ten Conference	+14.23	20	Mid American Conference	-4.21
4	Big East Conference	+14.22	21	Big Sky Conference	-4.76
5	Pac 12 Conference	+12.57	22	Summit League	-4.97
6	Atlantic Coast Conference	+11.34	23	Horizon League	-5.22
7	Mountain West Conference	+7.93	24	America East Conference	-5.70
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.31	25	ASUN Conference	-6.19
9	American Athletic Conference	+3.09	26	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-8.07
10	Missouri Valley Conference	+2.83	27	Ohio Valley Conference	-10.53
11	West Coast Conference	+2.49	28	Southland Conference	-10.90
12	Ivy League	-0.08	29	Patriot League	-11.62
13	Western Athletic Conference	-0.51	30	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-12.90
14	Conference USA	-0.82	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-13.28
15	Southern Conference	-2.76	32	Northeast Conference	-14.76
16	Big West Conference	-2.81	33	Independents	-15.80
17	Sun Belt Conference	-2.96

 

Kinda crazy how bad the ACC has been the past few years.  Haven't been a Top 3 league since 2019, and were 7th last season.  Makes the B1G's woes not so bad by comparison.

[Ron Mexico]

Not all records are created equal, see my reference to the '17-'18 season in the second paragraph below. 19 wins can look very different with a few quad 1 wins. Our only Q1 home game will be against Purdue and all the rest of them are on the road with several of those teams being borderline Q1 games. We are going to have to do something that we just have never really ever been able to do and that is win on the road. BTW, Warren Nolan has us going 0-11 on the road and finishing with a 16-15 record and 7-13 in conference. I like Nolan because it has an almost worst case scenario. 

 

This season could end up looking a lot like the 2017-2018 season, where we stacked up a lot of conference wins but none of them moved the needle. We missed key opportunities against KU at home, tOSU on the road and Mich in the BIG tournament. Winning 2 of those 3 would have put us in the NCAA's. If you don't think we won't get screwed like that, think again.

 

[brfrad]

Q1 games as they sit right now

 

Creighton - NET 5

@ Wisconsin - NET 19

Purdue - NET 4

@ Iowa - NET 65

Wisconsin - NET 19

@ Illinois - NET 18

@ Northwestern - NET 46

@ Ohio State - NET 35

@ Michigan - NET 66

 

Borderline

 

@ Rutgers NET 77

Ohio State NET 35

@ Kansas State NET 80

 

 

 

[hhcmatt]

9 hours ago, 49r said:

 

Yeah, it's Big East bad for sure.  Definitely a down year for the Big Ten.

 

 

Conference		Rating	Conference		Rating
1	Big 12 Conference	+17.70	18	Big South Conference	-4.14
2	Southeastern Conference	+14.86	19	Coastal Athletic Association	-4.21
3	Big Ten Conference	+14.23	20	Mid American Conference	-4.21
4	Big East Conference	+14.22	21	Big Sky Conference	-4.76
5	Pac 12 Conference	+12.57	22	Summit League	-4.97
6	Atlantic Coast Conference	+11.34	23	Horizon League	-5.22
7	Mountain West Conference	+7.93	24	America East Conference	-5.70
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.31	25	ASUN Conference	-6.19
9	American Athletic Conference	+3.09	26	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-8.07
10	Missouri Valley Conference	+2.83	27	Ohio Valley Conference	-10.53
11	West Coast Conference	+2.49	28	Southland Conference	-10.90
12	Ivy League	-0.08	29	Patriot League	-11.62
13	Western Athletic Conference	-0.51	30	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-12.90
14	Conference USA	-0.82	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-13.28
15	Southern Conference	-2.76	32	Northeast Conference	-14.76
16	Big West Conference	-2.81	33	Independents	-15.80
17	Sun Belt Conference	-2.96

 

I always wonder how this ranking correlates to number of tourney teams 

[Chuck Taylor]

3 seed in this NIT bracket:

 

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

[49r]

Bracketology is one of the most useless exercises I can imagine, but I did notice they have 5 Big Ten teams in the NCAA tourney and SEVEN in the NIT!

[Nebrasketball1979]

1 hour ago, Chuck Taylor said:

3 seed in this NIT bracket:

 

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

 

Ah, they must have us winning 13 conference games

[hskr4life]

At this point in time, bracketology is like predicting where a 5* QB will end up signing to play ball. Almost impossible and you can’t count anyone out.

[hskr4life]

23 hours ago, brfrad said:

Q1 games as they sit right now

 

Creighton - NET 5

@ Wisconsin - NET 19

Purdue - NET 4

@ Iowa - NET 65

Wisconsin - NET 19

@ Illinois - NET 18

@ Northwestern - NET 46

@ Ohio State - NET 35

@ Michigan - NET 66

 

Borderline

 

@ Rutgers NET 77

Ohio State NET 35

@ Kansas State NET 80

 

 

 

Well at least need 1…

 

 

[hskr4life]

 

I like this Ken guy by the way… has us as his sleeper.

[hskr4life]

NW about to give the conference another black eye.

[TourneyBound]

57 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

NW about to give the conference another black eye.

horrible loss at home. Good grief

[49r]

meh, didn't hurt us that much:

 

Ranking of conferences by AdjEM of team that's expected to go .500 in conference play

Conference		Rating	Conference		Rating
1	Big 12 Conference	+17.62	18	Big South Conference	-4.10
2	Southeastern Conference	+14.74	19	Coastal Athletic Association	-4.13
3	Big Ten Conference	+14.01	20	Mid American Conference	-4.22
4	Big East Conference	+13.94	21	Big Sky Conference	-4.74
5	Pac 12 Conference	+12.63	22	Summit League	-4.79
6	Atlantic Coast Conference	+11.32	23	Horizon League	-5.26
7	Mountain West Conference	+8.57	24	America East Conference	-5.83
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.29	25	ASUN Conference	-6.07
9	American Athletic Conference	+3.20	26	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-8.10
10	Missouri Valley Conference	+2.75	27	Ohio Valley Conference	-10.46
11	West Coast Conference	+2.62	28	Southland Conference	-11.25
12	Ivy League	-0.04	29	Patriot League	-11.69
13	Western Athletic Conference	-0.55	30	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-13.18
14	Conference USA	-0.77	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-13.23
15	Sun Belt Conference	-2.69	32	Independents	-13.50
16	Big West Conference	-2.75	33	Northeast Conference	-14.75
17	Southern Conference	-2.78

[hskr4life]

So it’s basically 3 tiers of conferences 

 

B12

 

SEC

B10

BE

P12

ACC

[Nebrasketball1979]

14 hours ago, hskr4life said:

NW about to give the conference another black eye.

 

Yeah, they tumbled 27 spots in KenPom down to 68.  That will certainly leave a mark.

 

FWIW we're currently at 63

[Norm Peterson]

22 hours ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

Yeah, they tumbled 27 spots in KenPom down to 68.  That will certainly leave a mark.

 

FWIW we're currently at 63

 

We'll move up after we beat Kansas State.

[hhcmatt]

Nebraska just went from 63 to 58 because Michigan St won so big

[AuroranHusker]

Gotta love MSU helping Nebraska. It's amazing fortitude on their part, Spartans have as many wins in Detroit as the Pistons. GBR

 

 

[49r]

16 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

Nebraska just went from 63 to 58 because Michigan St won so big

 

...aaand we're back to #62 today.

 

 

 

But yesterday's results moved the Big Ten up in the conference standings, so that's good

 

Ranking of conferences by AdjEM of team that's expected to go .500 in conference play

Conference		Rating	Conference		Rating
1	Big 12 Conference	+17.45	18	Coastal Athletic Association	-3.93
2	Big Ten Conference	+14.41	19	Mid American Conference	-4.10
3	Southeastern Conference	+14.33	20	Big South Conference	-4.37
4	Big East Conference	+13.99	21	Summit League	-4.48
5	Pac 12 Conference	+12.16	22	Big Sky Conference	-4.64
6	Atlantic Coast Conference	+11.04	23	Horizon League	-5.03
7	Mountain West Conference	+8.33	24	ASUN Conference	-6.12
8	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.44	25	America East Conference	-6.13
9	American Athletic Conference	+3.66	26	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-8.21
10	West Coast Conference	+2.62	27	Ohio Valley Conference	-10.26
11	Missouri Valley Conference	+2.50	28	Southland Conference	-10.71
12	Ivy League	-0.21	29	Patriot League	-11.54
13	Western Athletic Conference	-0.81	30	Independents	-12.85
14	Conference USA	-1.03	31	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-13.38
15	Big West Conference	-2.33	32	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-13.43
16	Sun Belt Conference	-2.55	33	Northeast Conference	-14.16
17	Southern Conference	-2.58

[hhcmatt]

On 12/15/2023 at 9:56 AM, Norm Peterson said:

 

We'll move up after we beat Kansas State.

 

[Norm Peterson]

We just helped the Big Ten conference out a lot today.

[brfrad]

Went from fire Hoiberg to how close are we to the bubble in 2 weeks.  Probably going to have a few more of these rides throughout the year.