Postgame chatter: Vol: 10; ed: 4 - North Dakota

[hskr4life]

 

This was pretty cool!  What do you do when you get held 10+ points under your season scoring average and get your teeth kicked in?  Clean up the visiting locker room of course.  Kudos to this guy.  Very classy.

Edited November 20, 2017 by hskr4life

[hhcmatt]

15 hours ago, 49r said:

North Dakota is not a good team no matter how polite you want to be. We should have beat them by at least 30 and failing to do so is a disappointment in my opinion.

 

I'll give it a shot, please and thank you.

They're a team that should compete for the Big Sky title even though they lost a lot of scoring and both of their centers grad-transferred on them. It seems like we could have beat them by 30 if we hadn't spent any time working on trying to get Jordy going and kept our regulars in for the last 2 minutes so we could get And-1 opportunities. 

 

[hhcmatt]

48 minutes ago, Coaches kid said:

It appeared to me that the release point and arc on Isaac's jump shot was much better than I had seen in the previous games. I hope this gives him confidence and gets him going for the important stretch of games coming up. 

 

Random thing to note on Copeland: He jumps a little bit when shooting FTs. They tend to not go in when he doesn't.

[AuroranHusker]

4 minutes ago, hhcdimes said:

 

I'll give it a shot, please and thank you.

They're a team that should compete for the Big Sky title even though they lost a lot of scoring and both of their centers grad-transferred on them. It seems like we could have beat them by 30 if we hadn't spent any time working on trying to get Jordy going and kept our regulars in for the last 2 minutes so we could get And-1 opportunities. 

 

 

I kinda hope NU plays St. John's again for that very reason. Bunch of punks...

[49r]

8 minutes ago, hhcdimes said:

 

I'll give it a shot, please and thank you.

They're a team that should compete for the Big Sky title even though they lost a lot of scoring and both of their centers grad-transferred on them. It seems like we could have beat them by 30 if we hadn't spent any time working on trying to get Jordy going and kept our regulars in for the last 2 minutes so we could get And-1 opportunities. 

 

 

I appreciate that, but this is division one!  We're not out there playing practice - the idea is to win the game by as many points as possible.

[TourneyBound]

13 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

That beautiful post move Isaiah executed to perfection early in the first half?

 

There's no reason at all that Jordy couldn't do that from the other side of the lane.

 

No reason other than needing to practice it.

 

But, see, that's one of the shortcomings of his style of hook shot that we talked about.

 

When you try to shoot a hook from your shoulders parallel to the target rather than rotating into the shot, it's not a counter move and there's no counter move out of it.  You have no lateral movement at all to create separation.  Your hips are static.  Your shoulders are static; you're just using them to create the separation.  

 

The reason Isaiah found himself so wide open was his defender bit on the head fake and lunged toward the baseline while Isaiah spun clockwise away from the defender and had a wide open jumper.

 

Jordy could do that if someone would work with him on the footwork.  Maybe Isaiah could be that guy.  We know Isaiah knows how to do it.

That was NICE!!!!!!!!

[TourneyBound]

Anyone a little concerned with Glynn and his knee?  Hasn't been hitting shots as much as I thought so far early in season and wondered if his knee was going to maybe be a ongoing issue this year..

[hskr4life]

5 minutes ago, ConkintheCorner said:

Anyone a little concerned with Glynn and his knee?  Hasn't been hitting shots as much as I thought so far early in season and wondered if his knee was going to maybe be a ongoing issue this year..

 

It might take some time, but Glynn doesn’t have to be the man every game this year which is nice.  A true PG is what he can be now with all of the other options we have.  He doesn’t have to take that forced 3 that sometimes went in with 2 seconds left on the shot clock.  Glynn I think will be our silent scorer this year as he averages 10+ PPG on nights where it seems he didn’t even shoot.

 

[hhcmatt]

Via UNL

 

Postgame Notes
*-Nebraska’s 92 points is the most since scoring 93 in a double OT win against Iowa last season. It is NU’s highest total in regulation since also scoring 92 against Southeastern Louisiana during the 2015-16 campaign.
*-Isaac Copeland posted his first double-figure performance of the season with 30 points and eight rebounds, setting or tying season bests in both categories.  Copeland went 12-of-14 from the floor, including a trio of 3-pointers, in reaching double figures for the first time this season. Copeland hit 8-of-9 shots from the floor in the first half, as he had 19 of his points in the first half. *-Copeland’s 30 points is a season-high for any Husker. The previous high was 21 by Glynn Watson Jr. against Eastern Illinois. It was Copeland’s second 30-point game as a collegian, as he had 32 points vs. Marquette in 2015-16. 
*-Anton Gill finished with a career-high 16 points, including 4-of-5 from 3-point range. Gill’s previous high was 15 against Florida International when he was at Louisville during the 2014-15 season. His previous high at NU was 10 on two occasions. Copeland’s 30-point game was the first by a Husker since Glynn Watson Jr. had 34 against Iowa last season.
*-Nebraska dished out 20 assists, its highest total since dishing out 22 assists against Rutgers on Feb. 6, 2016.

*-Evan Taylor’s five assists is a career high. His previous best was four on two occasions, most recently against Rutgers on Jan. 21, 2017.
*-Nebraska shot 60.6 percent in the first half, its best shooting half of the season. 
 

Nebraska Coach Tim Miles

On Isaac Copeland and Anton Gill

“I am so happy for them. People realize that that two guys go through major surgery, back surgery (for Isaac) and the (knee) injury that Anton went down. I am just so happy for them because I know what a relief it is for them, and I know how exciting it is for them. They deserve it. They have worked every day. They have struggled without any groaning and griping and they just stayed with it. Hopefully this is that start of the beginning.”

 

On how much this was needed

“Eventually you figure there is going to be a return to a mean, and we are going to be okay. But, at the same time, you do not know. I am really happy with those two guys and see them bust out, and I am looking forward to other guys getting a better rhythm and our whole operation getting better, especially on offense. I thought we were solid defensively and to hold these guys to 70 is not that easy when they average 48 in the second half of their first three games.”

 

On the team’s depth

“I was asked ‘Is this what you hope this team can be? If Glynn or James does not have a good night but that other guys pick up?’ I said that this is what the team has to be, it is what we have not had. That is what the depth is that we have talked about all year because the depth has got quality and can make plays.

 

On North Dakota’s team

“I also want to say that I really like Brian Jones’s team. I really like his team. I am impressed with them. I think they are very scary offensively, and they are very athletic. He has got drivers and shooters. Evan Taylor did a tremendous job on (Geno) Crandall in the first half. I don’t think people realize how tough he is to guard one-on-one and. We had some guys helping him and we were able to shrink the floor. We did a great job on him. You can’t keep him down forever. That is a good basketball team. You can see why they won the Big Sky last year and you can see why they are one of the top teams in the Big Sky this year and so it was a good win.”

 

Junior forward Isaac Copeland

On breaking out with 30 points today

"It felt good. I have a good support system around me. My dad pretty much calls daily to let me know to keep working and stay positive, it's eventually going to happen. I didn't think it was going to be 30 points, but I mean I'll take it. I just wanted to be aggressive. To be honest, I'm taking a lot of the same shots, maybe more at the rim, but a lot of the same shots I've been taking. They just happened to fall today."

 

Senior guard Anton Gill

On his performance and being healthy

"Honestly, I'm just glad to be back playing after a year, after the groin (missing the first two games) and everything. All of this just feels great to be back doing something that I love so it is icing on the cake, but just to be back out there with my guys means everything to me."

 

On returning from injury

"I got cleared right before the season (practice) so I just had to get my legs back under me, just a lot of fatigue and stuff like that. I think missing those first two games was probably the best thing to happen for me. My legs feel great, they feel bouncy again. Now, I feel like I'm getting back to myself."

 

Sophomore forward Isaiah Roby

On offensive improvement

"That was big just because this team was similar to St. John’s in they played a lot of guards. They had four guards that drove to the rim. The fact that we could show that we made improvements since our one day of practice already is good for us. Offensively, we knew that it was going to come. We have a lot of talent. It helps to get stops. It helps your offense already so when we get our defense going, our offense is going to come too."

 

North Dakota Head Coach Brian Jones

Opening Statement

“There were some bright moments. Obviously, I don’t think we came out valuing the basketball and that was one of our biggest keys. We had to value the basketball, we couldn’t turn it over and allow them to get some easy baskets, and they did. They scored 18 points in transition alone in that first half. You just can’t beat a team of that caliber, of that athleticism like that. The second half we cut it to ten, but Connor (Avants) picks two quick fouls and that kind of deflated our rhythm a little bit. Some of the things we tried to take away we did, some of the things we needed to take away we did not. So, it is a process with this group, a lot of new faces. I give them a lot of credit. They have not shot the ball even remotely or nearly as well as they had today.  I think they have got guys kind of like us, guys who are coming off redshirt years and still finding a rhythm.”

 

On the season so far

"The first couple of weeks are good for our team with a lot of new faces just focusing on growth and coming together chemistry wise and understanding what this process is all about. That is what we were just talking about. It is a process and you have to embrace the habits every day otherwise you’re going to be very inconsistent on both sides of the basketball. The new guys have really got to embrace the habits that they need to have in order to bring that success." 

[aphilso1]

55 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

This was pretty cool!  What do you do when you get held 10+ points under your season scoring average and get your teeth kicked in?  Clean up the visiting locker room of course.  Kudos to this guy.  Very classy.

 

That's awesome.  Can we give him a shout out from the HHC twitter account?  Stuff like this deserves to be recognized, especially when there's so many Baker Mayfield-types around these days. 

[huskerbaseball13]

I didn't get to watch the game at all...how did Copeland get most of his points? Posting up in the paint? Knocking down jumpers?

[hskr4life]

Just now, huskerbaseball13 said:

I didn't get to watch the game at all...how did Copeland get most of his points? Posting up in the paint? Knocking down jumpers?

 

All of the above.  Started low with a few post ups and driving layups, then hit a few mid range jumpers, then hit some from deep.  An all around big game from him.

[AuroranHusker]

Just now, hskr4life said:

 

All of the above.  Started low with a few post ups and driving layups, then hit a few mid range jumpers, then hit some from deep.  An all around big game from him.

 

Just imagine the confidence that Cope received from that one outing. Can't wait to see him improve his consistency in all facets.

[hskr4life]

Just now, AuroranHusker said:

 

Just imagine the confidence that Cope received from that one outing. Can't wait to see him improve his consistency in all facets.

 

Did you see his quote in the Robin article that I linked?  "Man I needed that."  

 

I think we see a completely different Copeland from here on out.  Not saying he'll score 30+, but 10+ PPG seems reasonable.

[AuroranHusker]

3 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

Did you see his quote in the Robin article that I linked?  "Man I needed that."  

 

I think we see a completely different Copeland from here on out.  Not saying he'll score 30+, but 10+ PPG seems reasonable.

 

Yeah, I read that. I'm hoping for approx. 14 pts 7 reb out of Cope. Seems to be a reasonable expectation.

 

[hskr4life]

Just now, AuroranHusker said:

 

Yeah, I read that. I'm hoping for approx. 14 pts 7 reb out of Cope. Seems to be a reasonable expectation.

 

 

All around he does the little things right.  A huge talent for sure.  I could certainly see 7 rebounds.  I could even see 2-3 assists, 1-2 blocks, 1-2 steals per game.

[uneblinstu]

7 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

Did you see his quote in the Robin article that I linked?  "Man I needed that."  

 

I think we see a completely different Copeland from here on out.  Not saying he'll score 30+, but 10+ PPG seems reasonable.

From a scoring perspective, if we get half of what we got from him and Gill most nights, we'll be really happy at the end of the season.

[hhcmatt]

17 minutes ago, aphilso1 said:

 

That's awesome.  Can we give him a shout out from the HHC twitter account?  Stuff like this deserves to be recognized, especially when there's so many Baker Mayfield-types around these days. 

 

I retweeted the NebManager's account's tweet about this

[Faux Mike Peltz]

I believe BTN will replay the game Tuesday for anyone who missed it, check local listings.

[HB]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

 

I appreciate that, but this is division one!  We're not out there playing practice - the idea is to win the game by as many points as possible.

 

No, it absolutely is not.  It is to get better.   And if the coach thinks we'll get better by doing things that make us win by 20 instead of 30, I would hope he does that.   You can improve in games as well as practice.   And if a starter were to go down playing in the last 2 minutes against a team we're up 20 against, I don't think it would make us better.   it would make us stupid.  

[dustystehl]

3 hours ago, hskr4life said:

 

This was pretty cool!  What do you do when you get held 10+ points under your season scoring average and get your teeth kicked in?  Clean up the visiting locker room of course.  Kudos to this guy.  Very classy.

 

This is very nice, but why isn't the person holding the camera/phone helping him?!

[49r]

1 hour ago, HB said:

 

No, it absolutely is not.  It is to get better.   And if the coach thinks we'll get better by doing things that make us win by 20 instead of 30, I would hope he does that.   You can improve in games as well as practice.   And if a starter were to go down playing in the last 2 minutes against a team we're up 20 against, I don't think it would make us better.   it would make us stupid.  

 

That's kind of a red herring.  If a starter is injured in a blowout game or in practice or sitting on the bench or walking to class what difference does it make?  He's still injured.  Can't live life in fear of injury.  And if recent history is any indication our starters could use all the "improving time" they can get.

[Huskerpapa]

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1 hour ago, 49r said:

 

That's kind of a red herring.  If a starter is injured in a blowout game or in practice or sitting on the bench or walking to class what difference does it make?  He's still injured.  Can't live life in fear of injury.  And if recent history is any indication our starters could use all the "improving time" they can get.

It sort of goes beyond "injury" though.  For example, Penn State just lost their starting safety after he was called for a targeting call against the Huskers with just a few minutes left in the game.  Not sure why he was on the field as they had many subs in the game at that point.  Also, it provides excellent coaching opportunities seeing the second and third team on game tape.  Game tape is  simply are better to evaluate than practice tape.  Finally, the second and third teamers bust a nut in practice.  To provide them the reward of playing time along with a year end letter enhances recruiting, enhances team chemistry and enhances overall morale.  Those players (especially Nebraskans) who fought each and every day in practices for four or five years can attest to the pride that a few minutes on the field or court meant to them, their relatives and their communities. 

 

But back to your report that the normal rotation could use those last few minutes to further improve their game.  There may be an element of truth to that.  But the counter argument is that in a blow out type scenario, their is a natural let down of sorts (the adrenalin has been sapped and the focus is lessened).  As a result bad habits rather than good habits can be reinforced.  Certainly not always the case, but still a high probability.

 

Just a slightly different way of looking at things I guess.

Edited November 20, 2017 by huskercwg

[Norm Peterson]

I found this funny so I thought I'd throw it out there:

 

At one point in the 2nd half, we'd been whistled for 5 fouls and them for just 1.  Really inconsistent calls on blocks/charges depending on what end of the floor things were happening.  After one semi-egregious charging call on one of our players, Miles was giving one of the officials a little bit of the business and the official told Miles to sit down and shut up.

 

After the game on his radio show, there was a lot to be happy about -- Copeland and Gill breaking out and having good games, etc.  Kent asked Miles if there was anything he wasn't happy about.

 

"The officials. ... This isn't going to get back to the league office is it?"

 

I laughed.

[49r]

54 minutes ago, huskercwg said:

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It sort of goes beyond "injury" though.  For example, Penn State just lost their starting safety after he was called for a targeting call against the Huskers with just a few minutes left in the game.  Not sure why he was on the field as they had many subs in the game at that point.  Also, it provides excellent coaching opportunities seeing the second and third team on game tape.  Game tape is  simply are better to evaluate than practice tape.  Finally, the second and third teamers bust a nut in practice.  To provide them the reward of playing time along with a year end letter enhances recruiting, enhances team chemistry and enhances overall morale.  Those players (especially Nebraskans) who fought each and every day in practices for four or five years can attest to the pride that a few minutes on the field or court meant to them, their relatives and their communities. 

 

But back to your report that the normal rotation could use those last few minutes to further improve their game.  There may be an element of truth to that.  But the counter argument is that in a blow out type scenario, their is a natural let down of sorts (the adrenalin has been sapped and the focus is lessened).  As a result bad habits rather than good habits can be reinforced.  Certainly not always the case, but still a high probability.

 

Just a slightly different way of looking at things I guess.

 

I'm not even against getting bench guys minutes, I just think if we're trying to be the kind of team that can harbor thoughts of winning in Omaha or pulling off an upset against KU, then we need to be beating North Dakota by 30 or more.

 

Again, whether or not they are a tourney team or the Big Sky favorites, they still are a KenPom 250-ish team.  We need to beat those teams much more handily.  No matter how we do it.

Edited November 20, 2017 by 49r