Norm Peterson Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 He looks pretty well put together: He sets a nice screen, too. As far as expectations, it's a damn site better than leaving the spot open for another year. Even 15 minutes of big muscles and long wingspan gives us more than what we'd have without him. And he might yet blossom with a change of scenery. He might have just needed to get out of G'town. 49r 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Imagine this scenario: Ayegba comes to Lincoln and has a Terran-esque transformation. Goes from minimal statistical contributions to major statistical contributions. Boy, wouldn't that solidify Miles as a superior developer of talent. Quote
49r Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 My biggest first impression of him is his hands...those things are MASSIVE. (which is probably at least some of the reason he's not a huge scoring threat I'd imagine) Quote
Bugeaters1 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Imagine this scenario: Ayegba comes to Lincoln and has a Terran-esque transformation. Goes from minimal statistical contributions to major statistical contributions. Boy, wouldn't that solidify Miles as a superior developer of talent. Yes it would but do you think Miles can do it in a matter of 7 or 8 months. Quote
HuskerFever Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Imagine this scenario: Ayegba comes to Lincoln and has a Terran-esque transformation. Goes from minimal statistical contributions to major statistical contributions. Boy, wouldn't that solidify Miles as a superior developer of talent. Yes it would but do you think Miles can do it in a matter of 7 or 8 months. To some people's standards, that's not very good. Moses knows someone who could do it in 7 days. Silverbacked1 and AuroranHusker 2 Quote
HF_ Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 The good thing about this guy is that all of his effort will be going towards working on his game. One would assume that he's not going to have much school work to attend with the minimal hours of grad classes he will be taking. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up having a bit more offensive skill than his numbers show, but the time the season gets underway. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Imagine this scenario: Ayegba comes to Lincoln and has a Terran-esque transformation. Goes from minimal statistical contributions to major statistical contributions. Boy, wouldn't that solidify Miles as a superior developer of talent. Yes it would but do you think Miles can do it in a matter of 7 or 8 months. Coaches can now spend time with players during the off-season. If Moses gets here right after graduation and starts to work with Miles and staff over the summer, then, yes, I think a transformation could take place. Not one that leads to him scoring 15 points and grabbing 10 boards per game. But I could see him doubling his minutes, tripling his rebounding numbers and quadrupling his points. If he does that, he goes from playing13 minutes, 1.9 points and 2.8 rebounds, to playing 26 minutes, scoring 8 points and snaring 8.5 rebounds. Yeah, I could see that happening. What did Miles do with Brandon Ubel in 7-8 months? Quote
hhcmatt Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 I'd rather see him pull down 10 rebounds before he pulls down 10 points Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Brandon Ubel Scoring: Fr. 4.4 > Net increase of 38.6% So. 6.1 > Net increase of 9.8% Jr. 6.7 > Net increase of 71.6% Sr. 11.5 Miles arrived in the summer before Ubel's senior year. That's quite a statistical jump at a point where you'd have expected diminishing marginal improvement. I'd say Ayegba making significant strides under Miles is not out of the question. Quote
49r Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Norm, was Ubel's increase his senior year an indication of player development, or was it because the team lost so much of their production from the year before? He was perhaps the ONLY decent scoring option we had that year. Just sayin' Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 49r, I think that only explains part of it. If Brandon had been capable of putting up 11.5 points as a junior when we sucked and had trouble scoring, I don't think we'd have sucked as badly or had as much trouble scoring. Remember, that was the season where Diaz was out for extended stretches with his foot problems. And still Brandon only scored 6.7 ppg. I think a bigger part of the difference was in the way Miles utilized Brandon. He got him to dribble-drive and take defenders off the dribble to attack the rim. That made a huge difference. Miles talked during one of his radio shows last year about how he tried to get Walt to do what he had Brandon do, but that Brandon took to it more quickly. I think there was a night and day difference between Brandon Ubel as a junior and Brandon Ubel as a senior. Totally different player. And I think Miles deserves the credit for that. NeHoops, 49r and AuroranHusker 3 Quote
49r Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Fair enough, Norm. FWIW, I happen to agree with you, I just think we have to be careful with our expectations of what Ayegba will bring to the table next year...whether he's able to develop into a serviceable player or not. All I hope for is he can be the rim-protecter we desperately missed last year, and we can get 15-20 MPG. That's worth the scholarship, IMO. AuroranHusker 1 Quote
atskooc Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 My biggest first impression of him is his hands...those things are MASSIVE. (which is probably at least some of the reason he's not a huge scoring threat I'd imagine) I noticed the same thing. Huge hands! fred1212 1 Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Imagine this scenario: Ayegba comes to Lincoln and has a Terran-esque transformation. Goes from minimal statistical contributions to major statistical contributions. Boy, wouldn't that solidify Miles as a superior developer of talent. If this happens, along with the further development of Pitchford, then I also believe it will be HUGE for Nebraska's recruiting of transfers...Nebraska could be the next Iowa St in that sense... Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Posted April 25, 2014 Imagine this scenario: Ayegba comes to Lincoln and has a Terran-esque transformation. Goes from minimal statistical contributions to major statistical contributions. Boy, wouldn't that solidify Miles as a superior developer of talent. The tough part of that comparison is that Terran and Walt were both freshmen that had limited time to show what they could really do. They then got an entire year to mature, get stronger, and ease into their roles. Ayegba has now played or been apart of 4 college seasons. He doesnt get the benefit of a redshirt year. Hes had two major knee surgeries. I think there could be a minimal change but expecting the type of transformation those two had I think would be unfair to Moses. Now if it happened I think you'd see flood gates start to open for talent. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Honestly, If Ayegba can be a utility man, then that is all that I think Nebraska needs from him. Look at Rivers...He didn't stuff the stat sheets, but I think he brought something very valuable to this team that isn't found in the stats... If Ayegba can play with the kind of intensity that Rivers does, but do it with a 6'9", 250 lbs frame (with a 7'4" wingspan), then this team will, again, make considerable improvement. And again, equally as important, the addition of Ayegba allows Pitchford to play the 4-spot, rather than having to play out of position in the 5-spot. I think the statistical jump/development that we will see as a result of this addition will actually be on Pitchford's stat sheet... AuroranHusker 1 Quote
GATA Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Honestly, If Ayegba can be a utility man, then that is all that I think Nebraska needs from him. Look at Rivers...He didn't stuff the stat sheets, but I think he brought something very valuable to this team that isn't found in the stats... If Ayegba can play with the kind of intensity that Rivers does, but do it with a 6'9", 250 lbs frame (with a 7'4" wingspan), then this team will, again, make considerable improvement. And again, equally as important, the addition of Ayegba allows Pitchford to play the 4-spot, rather than having to play out of position in the 5-spot. I think the statistical jump/development that we will see as a result of this addition will actually be on Pitchford's stat sheet... Good post. If he can give us 15-20 good minutes, I think it will have a big trickle down effect on the rest of the team. Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
Swan88 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Here is what Tim Miles says about how Moses Ayegba fits into Nebrasketball's system and plans: “Moses Ayegba . . . provides us a veteran physical presence on the interior, and he can affect the game on the defensive end with his rebounding and shot blocking. When building a defense from the inside out, you are looking for a player who can protect the rim and be an anchor, and we think Moses can do that for us. We also think he has the tools to improve on the offensive end and believe he has a chance to flourish in our system next year.” Quote
gobigredbrah Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 Went to work today this was in pilger, nebraska btw 49r, NeHoops, HuskerFever and 2 others 5 Quote
fred1212 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 Went to work today this was in pilger, nebraska btw photoshopped so many ways what's with his front lower leg bending backwards? HuskerActuary, Brandon4Real_X, Nebrasketballer and 3 others 6 Quote
Bugeaters1 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 Went to work today this was in pilger, nebraska btw photoshopped so many ways softball player Mattie Fowler Quote
fred1212 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 I'm concerned about the way his knee bends backwards. hhcmatt, atskooc, bobcat402 and 4 others 1 6 Quote
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