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2014

Dickerson

Atwood

Deng

Leer

Any others??

2015

Pinder

Morrow

Williams

Etc

If you could pick.... Who would you sign and why??

Personally, I know nothing about Khiry Thomas grade situation but the kid is as complete combo guard as the metro has seen since maybe Strickland. He is flat out unguardable, scoring from everywhere and has the athletiscm to boot. No clue on his interest or grades but to me, he passes the eye test

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Isn't Pinder already "N"  I guess he hasn't signed yet, which would mean that he could still take a different path.

 

2014

Dickerson

Atwood

another big, would love a grad transfer like kamdy pointed out.

 

2015

Morrow

Williams or a different big

A high profile combo guard

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Dickerson, Atwood, and a graduate transfer to fill serj leaving. Then next year Bryant Crawford, Morrow, and another big.

Another big like Darien Williams?

 

I'd tend to prefer HS over juco just because jucos are only here for two years and then gone and seems like just when they're really finding their game, they're gone.  But jucos also bring some maturity and physical development to teams that might otherwise be young, so there's a give and take.

 

Finding a juco who still has 3 years of eligibility is kind of a good middle ground, AFAIC.  Therefore, I'd love to get Dickerson.  And if there was any way we could also get Williams to graduate by the end of summer and get him eligible, I'd love to have him as well, based on the numbers he's putting up as a true freshman at least.

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Dickerson, Atwood, and a graduate transfer to fill serj leaving. Then next year Bryant Crawford, Morrow, and another big.

Another big like Darien Williams?

 

I'd tend to prefer HS over juco just because jucos are only here for two years and then gone and seems like just when they're really finding their game, they're gone.  But jucos also bring some maturity and physical development to teams that might otherwise be young, so there's a give and take.

 

Finding a juco who still has 3 years of eligibility is kind of a good middle ground, AFAIC.  Therefore, I'd love to get Dickerson.  And if there was any way we could also get Williams to graduate by the end of summer and get him eligible, I'd love to have him as well, based on the numbers he's putting up as a true freshman at least.

 

 

I dont care who the big is for the 2015 class but I put it as unnamed because I want to see who they get in this cycle to determine who I would like to take.  I do think Miles is finding out how hard it is to generate interest with high level HS kids and is going to the Schnapps a lot than he probably figured he would have to (referencing his initial press conference to jucos, and international players).

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Dickerson, Atwood, and a graduate transfer to fill serj leaving. Then next year Bryant Crawford, Morrow, and another big.

Another big like Darien Williams?

 

I'd tend to prefer HS over juco just because jucos are only here for two years and then gone and seems like just when they're really finding their game, they're gone.  But jucos also bring some maturity and physical development to teams that might otherwise be young, so there's a give and take.

 

Finding a juco who still has 3 years of eligibility is kind of a good middle ground, AFAIC.  Therefore, I'd love to get Dickerson.  And if there was any way we could also get Williams to graduate by the end of summer and get him eligible, I'd love to have him as well, based on the numbers he's putting up as a true freshman at least.

 

I dont care who the big is for the 2015 class but I put it as unnamed because I want to see who they get in this cycle to determine who I would like to take.  I do think Miles is finding out how hard it is to generate interest with high level HS kids and is going to the Schnapps a lot than he probably figured he would have to (referencing his initial press conference to jucos, and international players).

Well it has been pretty cold around and the ice snakes might have been out so Schnapps is perfectly called for.

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Most important to me is getting a guy like Morrow who you have 4 years to work with. I'd be ok w 1 of the juco bigs because I think we are in decent shape at the 4. I go with Atwood or Darien. Remember shields and petteway play the same spot unless Miles moves him to the 2, Sharon has to play the 4. If he doesn't move Terran, we sit Shields? I take Atwood if you can get morrow and then grab another guard.

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Most important to me is getting a guy like Morrow who you have 4 years to work with. I'd be ok w 1 of the juco bigs because I think we are in decent shape at the 4. I go with Atwood or Darien. Remember shields and petteway play the same spot unless Miles moves him to the 2, Sharon has to play the 4. If he doesn't move Terran, we sit Shields? I take Atwood if you can get morrow and then grab another guard.

 

only problem is youre talking about guys in two different classes.  You wont know about Morrow and Williams until at least next fall and Atwood will sign in the spring.

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Most important to me is getting a guy like Morrow who you have 4 years to work with. I'd be ok w 1 of the juco bigs because I think we are in decent shape at the 4. I go with Atwood or Darien. Remember shields and petteway play the same spot unless Miles moves him to the 2, Sharon has to play the 4. If he doesn't move Terran, we sit Shields? I take Atwood if you can get morrow and then grab another guard.

Terran seems like he is a 2 anyway, like he would be playing there if we had more posts and no Ray. That's why I think he starts at 2 next year, shields at 3, and hopefully we can get another post to play at 4 or 5 and let pitch play the other post. Petteway can play almost any position, but he seems most comfortable as a shooting guard
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I just want our staff to be very selective this spring.  Consider this - we have won 5 of the last 7 against Big Ten competition, and of those in the playing rotation during that time, only Gallegos will not return next year.  Plus, we add two - Hammond & Fuller - that could vie for playing time in 2014-15.

Don't sign anyone in 2014 unless it's obvious that they are an upgrade to your current roster.

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I just want our staff to be very selective this spring.  Consider this - we have won 5 of the last 7 against Big Ten competition, and of those in the playing rotation during that time, only Gallegos will not return next year.  Plus, we add two - Hammond & Fuller - that could vie for playing time in 2014-15.

Don't sign anyone in 2014 unless it's obvious that they are an upgrade to your current roster.

 

You can't hamstring your team.  Miles has already done that the last two years leaving open one scholarship.  You cannot do that going forward and have to find guys that can either complement the current players or be the future stars that wait in the wings.  You don't see any other team in the country going a few years in a row not filling a spot just because you want to wait for the right guy to fill a spot.  If you don't find great players in the spring you find some senior transfers that at least provide some depth.

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 If you don't find great players in the spring you find some senior transfers that at least provide some depth.

This seems likely...we find a 6'9" or taller grad transfer for one year and it opens the scholie for 2015.

And if we can finish the year hot, I think we could attract a good one.

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You can't hamstring your team.  Miles has already done that the last two years leaving open one scholarship.  You cannot do that going forward and have to find guys that can either complement the current players or be the future stars that wait in the wings.  You don't see any other team in the country going a few years in a row not filling a spot just because you want to wait for the right guy to fill a spot.  If you don't find great players in the spring you find some senior transfers that at least provide some depth.

Don't have time to research it, but I'd question your statement in bold above.  How are we "hamstrung" this year being one player short?  If our roster is so thin, we shouldn't have red-shirted Fuller.  The truth is, we have plenty of players fighting for minutes in the rotation, even with Biggs off the team.  

Springtime, it seems to me, is a time when lots of schools start chasing down a handful of average players to meet a dire short-term need.  I watched Tummala on the bench last night for ASU.  That seemed to be a "must have" for us back in March.  He hasn't played in the last 5 games.  We all know how disappointed we were when Atewe didn't sign.  I don't feel too bad about that one now.

I have to credit Miles for making a nice pickup last spring with Leslee Smith.  But we desperately needed someone with some muscle underneath going into this year.  I would argue we are a little less thin at all positions going into next year.  Hey, I have no problem signing Dickerson, Atwood or Deng this spring.  I don't want to see our roster with less than 12.  I'm glad the staff is out shaking the bushes for a last minute transfer or de-commit.  Just don't sign someone who isn't going to make you better at a position than you are already.  We are past the point where we just need to sign a warm body.

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Some guys pan out, others bust.  And sometimes a guy more than pans out and becomes a star when you didn't really expect that out of him.  And there's no perfect science for figuring out who those guys will be.  It's just odds.  

 

Yeah, Fuller's sitting the bench developing because he shows some promise and you figure year 5 of Fuller might be pretty special whereas year 1 of Fuller he might not see the floor.  So, you can justify using a redshirt there.  But you don't tie up a scholarship for an extra year by redshirting a guy who isn't likely ever going to be all that special.  

 

You need that spot to offer to someone else and turn that scholarship over.  It increases your odds of finding that guy who more than pans out.  Leaving a scholarship open for a number of years waiting for someone to offer simply decreases your odds of landing another difference maker.  You reduce your allotment from 13 down to 12. 

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You can't hamstring your team.  Miles has already done that the last two years leaving open one scholarship.  You cannot do that going forward and have to find guys that can either complement the current players or be the future stars that wait in the wings.  You don't see any other team in the country going a few years in a row not filling a spot just because you want to wait for the right guy to fill a spot.  If you don't find great players in the spring you find some senior transfers that at least provide some depth.

Don't have time to research it, but I'd question your statement in bold above.  How are we "hamstrung" this year being one player short?  If our roster is so thin, we shouldn't have red-shirted Fuller.  The truth is, we have plenty of players fighting for minutes in the rotation, even with Biggs off the team.  

Springtime, it seems to me, is a time when lots of schools start chasing down a handful of average players to meet a dire short-term need.  I watched Tummala on the bench last night for ASU.  That seemed to be a "must have" for us back in March.  He hasn't played in the last 5 games.  We all know how disappointed we were when Atewe didn't sign.  I don't feel too bad about that one now.

I have to credit Miles for making a nice pickup last spring with Leslee Smith.  But we desperately needed someone with some muscle underneath going into this year.  I would argue we are a little less thin at all positions going into next year.  Hey, I have no problem signing Dickerson, Atwood or Deng this spring.  I don't want to see our roster with less than 12.  I'm glad the staff is out shaking the bushes for a last minute transfer or de-commit.  Just don't sign someone who isn't going to make you better at a position than you are already.  We are past the point where we just need to sign a warm body.

 

 

Not every recruit needs to contribute immediately. Leaving open spots means there are that many less players on our bench that we are developing for the future. You do not just "sign a warm body," but the staff needs to have a plan that involves getting players in here to contribute and to develop into contributors.

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Not every recruit needs to contribute immediately. Leaving open spots means there are that many less players on our bench that we are developing for the future. You do not just "sign a warm body," but the staff needs to have a plan that involves getting players in here to contribute and to develop into contributors.

 

That is true.  And I am probably being too hasty in calling out Tummala and Atewe as probable recruiting busts.  I'm not going to name names, but I think all of us could come up with at least a half dozen players under each of the Collier and Sadler eras that never should have been brought to Lincoln in the first place.

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Not every recruit needs to contribute immediately. Leaving open spots means there are that many less players on our bench that we are developing for the future. You do not just "sign a warm body," but the staff needs to have a plan that involves getting players in here to contribute and to develop into contributors.

 

That is true.  And I am probably being too hasty in calling out Tummala and Atewe as probable recruiting busts.  I'm not going to name names, but I think all of us could come up with at least a half dozen players under each of the Collier and Sadler eras that never should have been brought to Lincoln in the first place.

 

 

Probably could come up w/ a dozen each when scouring through the rosters of Collier & Sadler... I think Miles & Co. have a better sense on what it takes to be a contributor on a high-level program.

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You can't hamstring your team.  Miles has already done that the last two years leaving open one scholarship.  You cannot do that going forward and have to find guys that can either complement the current players or be the future stars that wait in the wings.  You don't see any other team in the country going a few years in a row not filling a spot just because you want to wait for the right guy to fill a spot.  If you don't find great players in the spring you find some senior transfers that at least provide some depth.

Don't have time to research it, but I'd question your statement in bold above.  How are we "hamstrung" this year being one player short?  If our roster is so thin, we shouldn't have red-shirted Fuller.  The truth is, we have plenty of players fighting for minutes in the rotation, even with Biggs off the team.  

Springtime, it seems to me, is a time when lots of schools start chasing down a handful of average players to meet a dire short-term need.  I watched Tummala on the bench last night for ASU.  That seemed to be a "must have" for us back in March.  He hasn't played in the last 5 games.  We all know how disappointed we were when Atewe didn't sign.  I don't feel too bad about that one now.

I have to credit Miles for making a nice pickup last spring with Leslee Smith.  But we desperately needed someone with some muscle underneath going into this year.  I would argue we are a little less thin at all positions going into next year.  Hey, I have no problem signing Dickerson, Atwood or Deng this spring.  I don't want to see our roster with less than 12.  I'm glad the staff is out shaking the bushes for a last minute transfer or de-commit.  Just don't sign someone who isn't going to make you better at a position than you are already.  We are past the point where we just need to sign a warm body.

 

 

I look at hamstrung as the fact Miles didn't sign any of the juco players committed in year one to save for year two.  He didn't find someone he liked in year two so he saved it for year three's recruiting cycle.  Well if he doesn't fill the spots he has again this spring that means we will have gone three cycles basically playing under self-imposed scholarship ban.  Just think how Alihodzic or Coleman could give us a presence in the middle for a few minutes or more per game this year and would still have opened up the scholarship this spring.  I mean we didn't use the spot for either year so even if they hadn't panned out we still would be in the same spot we are today with the scholarships.  I truly feel you NEED to fill them all this year, and like I said if you don't get quality at least get a one year transfer, just to have even a couple minutes or even a better practice player on the team.  One year is ok, 2 isn't good, but three years without filling a spot is just hurting yourself when you could've been developing someone or had a 1-2 year guy fill in during that time.  

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You can't hamstring your team.  Miles has already done that the last two years leaving open one scholarship.  You cannot do that going forward and have to find guys that can either complement the current players or be the future stars that wait in the wings.  You don't see any other team in the country going a few years in a row not filling a spot just because you want to wait for the right guy to fill a spot.  If you don't find great players in the spring you find some senior transfers that at least provide some depth.

Don't have time to research it, but I'd question your statement in bold above.  How are we "hamstrung" this year being one player short?  If our roster is so thin, we shouldn't have red-shirted Fuller.  The truth is, we have plenty of players fighting for minutes in the rotation, even with Biggs off the team.  

Springtime, it seems to me, is a time when lots of schools start chasing down a handful of average players to meet a dire short-term need.  I watched Tummala on the bench last night for ASU.  That seemed to be a "must have" for us back in March.  He hasn't played in the last 5 games.  We all know how disappointed we were when Atewe didn't sign.  I don't feel too bad about that one now.

I have to credit Miles for making a nice pickup last spring with Leslee Smith.  But we desperately needed someone with some muscle underneath going into this year.  I would argue we are a little less thin at all positions going into next year.  Hey, I have no problem signing Dickerson, Atwood or Deng this spring.  I don't want to see our roster with less than 12.  I'm glad the staff is out shaking the bushes for a last minute transfer or de-commit.  Just don't sign someone who isn't going to make you better at a position than you are already.  We are past the point where we just need to sign a warm body.

 

 

I look at hamstrung as the fact Miles didn't sign any of the juco players committed in year one to save for year two.  He didn't find someone he liked in year two so he saved it for year three's recruiting cycle.  Well if he doesn't fill the spots he has again this spring that means we will have gone three cycles basically playing under self-imposed scholarship ban.  Just think how Alihodzic or Coleman could give us a presence in the middle for a few minutes or more per game this year and would still have opened up the scholarship this spring.  I mean we didn't use the spot for either year so even if they hadn't panned out we still would be in the same spot we are today with the scholarships.  I truly feel you NEED to fill them all this year, and like I said if you don't get quality at least get a one year transfer, just to have even a couple minutes or even a better practice player on the team.  One year is ok, 2 isn't good, but three years without filling a spot is just hurting yourself when you could've been developing someone or had a 1-2 year guy fill in during that time.  

 

i dont know his stats, but Coleman would of at least helped and spell leslee now, with his knees

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I think Nebraska's #1 priority should be to bring in a grad transfer to play Center.

This team has a very strong core of talent in the sophomore class (Petteway, Shields, Pitchford). If Nebraska wants to reach their potential as a bball program, they need to make sure that the talent on the roster aligns and can contribute on the floor at the same time.

Nebraska needs to make sure that they can bring in a Center that is game-ready right away. That way their skill set can utilized together with Petteway, Shields, Pitchford.

Rather than having to develop a high school Center for 2 years, meaning that by the time they are ready to get on the court and contribute...Petteway, Pitchford, and Shields are gone.

We have talked a lot about Nebrasketball and that the stars seem to be aligned for some great things. But I think that (since Nebraska isn't in a position to have a roster completely full of high caliber recruits in all 4 classes) it is equally important that the talent aligns, so that the talent can all get on the court at the same time, so Nebraska can strike while the iron is hot. Nebraska needs to have a Center that can contribute right away, while Petteway, Pitchford, and Shields are still here.

I always thought Petteway was going to be pretty good, but I had no idea he could be this good. Nebraska needs to take full advantage of the situation, because, historically, players as talented as Petteway don't just fall into Nebraska's lap everyday.

So my list would be:

1) Grad Transfer Center

2) Dickerson

3) Atwood or Deng or a high school Center

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