hhcmatt Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 Here ya go Norm: Regarding Ed's height, Brian Rosenthall reported back on May 31, 2014: "Morrow, who recently turned 17, said he’s still growing, that he’s gone from 6-foot-6 at the start of last season, to his current 6-7½. Both measurements, he said, are without shoes." I suspect, due to Big 10 rules, he will wear shoes while playing. Swan88, Red Don, Cell and 3 others 6 Quote
busticket Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Selfishly, I'd be okay with it if Ed stayed at 6-7½". With his athleticism he could be a dominant college player at that height. If he grows to 6'9", he suddenly becomes a strong candidate to go to the NBA after a season or two. Ed has a pretty good chance to be a four year starter at Nebraska. Doug McDermott started at Creighton as a freshman because of opportunity. Ethan Wragge got hurt so they were forced to play him. Ed is coming into a similar situation where we need a guy who can come in and make an impact in the frontcourt, especially with Pitchford, Rivers, Smith and Moses leaving. Obviously McDermott and Morrow are completely different kinds of players, but the opportunity for early PT is similar. I'm pretty excited to see what Ed can do with the opportunity in front of him. Quote
HB Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Here we go again. The guy hasn't played a minute of college basketball, and we're talking a out leaving for the NBA in a season or two? Not unlike unlike all the talk of Tai turning pro early in his college career. While I like the incoming class, especially compared to the last 15 or so, there will be an adjustment period for all of them. Maybe we should let them adjust to playing in the Big 10 before we put a crown on them. HuskerCager 1 Quote
busticket Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 You kind of missed the point. I said if he were 6'9" it would be a possibility....6'7" PF's aren't in high demand in the NBA. The NBA draft is based more on pro potential/measureables than college production. Looks at Kelly Oubre at Kansas. He's projected in the top 20 and he is incredibly raw as a player, but he is a 6'7" wing that is one year removed from high school. Terran is a 6'6" wing that scored twice as many points as Oubre but is four years out of highschool. He'll be fortunate to be drafted. I prefer to have a group of kids that will be around a few years and be a part of a well-coached, cohesive team. Similar to Wisconsin. Quote
HB Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 You kind of missed the point. I said if he were 6'9" it would be a possibility....6'7" PF's aren't in high demand in the NBA. The NBA draft is based more on pro potential/measureables than college production. Looks at Kelly Oubre at Kansas. He's projected in the top 20 and he is incredibly raw as a player, but he is a 6'7" wing that is one year removed from high school. Terran is a 6'6" wing that scored twice as many points as Oubre but is four years out of highschool. He'll be fortunate to be drafted. I prefer to have a group of kids that will be around a few years and be a part of a well-coached, cohesive team. Similar to Wisconsin. No, I didn't miss it. What I objected to is that there is no basis to conclude that he is a 1 or 2 and done guy even if he is 6'9". He hasn't played a minute of college basketball, and if he was a one an done guy even with some height projection he would have been offered by the big boys. He sure seems like an upgrade on what we have been signing, but its one thing to be excited about his prospects, yet another to start talking early NBA departures. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 I understand HB's point and it's well taken that Ed Morrow hasn't played a minute of college ball yet and it's way too early to get the hype machine moving into over drive. On the other hand ... You can talk in terms of probabilities and likelihoods. Sometimes, way-under-the-radar type guys blow up in college and do really well. Other times, those top shelf recruits get to college and bust. But the higher up in the recruiting rankings you are, the less likely it is that you bust and the more likely it is that you end up being an impact player. I looked at the stats for the last few years and I wrote a post about it. I checked through -- don't worry, it didn't take long -- all the Rivals 150 players for a couple of years to see how they did in college. I don't remember the stats and I don't remember where I had them written down, but it was extremely rare for a Rivals 150 kid to come in and flop. Dimes has apparently better searching skills than I have but I laid out the stats. Someone want to try finding them for me? Ed Morrow is like the #51 player for ESPN. That's in the "probable impact player -- unlikely to flop" range. I'm just sayin' because if you're worried about what kind of team we'll be able to field next year, I'm not worrying significantly and that's one of the reasons why. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 I found the thread: Shavon, Kale and the Reliability of Rivals 150. http://board.huskerhoopscentral.com/topic/6093-shavon-kale-and-the-reliability-of-rivals-150/?hl=rivals Quote
HB Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Then again, guys like Fran Fraschilla say that certain guys would be Top 25 guys, have the hype machine get really overloaded, and have them be spectacularly wrong. Just saying that there is normal over-hyping, and there is spectacularly over the top over-hyping. Talking about Morrow going pro early if he were an inch and a half taller is the latter. Quote
49r Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Don't worry guys, they've got this all covered over at BJU: Andrew White III better turn out to be everything they say he is, or they have to hope at least one of their freshman is the real deal from day one. Otherwise that is a team that will struggle to get to 40 points a game. The most likely scenario is that AW3 shows why he would've only been a role player at KU, Glynn Watson takes half a season to even get acclimated to the speed of the college game, and Ed Morrow is saddled with playing out of position because UNL has nobody that can play the 5. 2014-2015 season part deux! and If there's one thing Nebraska fans should have learned, ESPECIALLY after this year, it's that you can't rely on highly touted transfers to change your program - which is also why I hope that we temper our expectations a little bit. White might be a good player, but I don't see how he's gonna turn that program around. Plus, yes these recruits they're bringing in are highly rated, but they're not top 30-40 kids who have the ability to step in right away and make a difference. I think Glynn Watson will be a really good player eventually. He seems like a solid pass-first guy who could end up being All-B1G by the time he's a senior. But Morrow is 6' 7 and doesn't really have much ability other than being able to jump really high. He's an undersized four-man. He doesn't have the skills to play the three right now. Does this remind you guys of anyone else? plus plenty more hits where that came from. In a nutshell... Nebraska basketball is an even bigger dumpster fire now than ever before, coach Miles is a grandstanding idiot that cares more about looking cute on twitter than coaching (probably because he's a horrible coach and needs to distract everyone from that fact). The "talent" we're bringing is absolutely destined for failure. I love that site. They care more about Husker Hoops then their own program. It's awesome! Norm Peterson and hhcmatt 1 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 It's funny because I did that research, referenced above in the Shavon, Kale and the Reliability of Rivals 150 link, because I was kind of astonished that CU had two (count 'em, TWO) Rivals 150 players in the '14 class and NEITHER of them were contributors this season. So, I wondered how rare that was. And I found out that it's pretty rare. Players in the Rivals 150 generally pan out and contribute right away. Theirs didn't. I think ours will. I base that primarily on my review of film or our guys and their guys. As 49r can attest, I was NEVER impressed with Leon Gilmore. Ever. And I reeeeaaaaally like that Morrow kid. They're in for a big shock if all they think he can do is jump and dunk. And here's another prediction: I think Mike Edwards is better than their Patton kid. I hope we land him so that we have a chance to test that prediction out. Swan88 1 Quote
49r Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 The one thing that I'm most worried about with Tarin (and potentially Terran) not being on the team next year is providing a bit of a bridge for the new kids so they won't need to be ready to go from the jump. But, like Norm said, it's not unheard of for kids to come in and have an impact right away. It's one of the (admittedly many) things I liked about the Shields kid. And he wasn't even that highly regarded... Quote
Red Don Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Didn't Iowa State have a decent season using transfers and JUCOs? Quote
hhcmatt Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Didn't Iowa State have a decent season using transfers and JUCOs? They have the formula for that figured out....Iowa St is to transfers as Kentucky is to 1 and done. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Okay if we are making kind of wild predictions I'm going to say that Jacobson will have a better career and have a bigger impact than Patton will. How's them apples? Quote
Huskerpapa Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 Articles like this tell me that our program is looking good for at least the next four years http://highschoolcubenews.com/2015/04/18/ed-morrow-joseph-toye-bring-star-power-luther-bedford-star-classic/ A couple of snippets: "...Morrow scored six points on three rim-rattling dunks, grabbed seven rebounds and played with his normal ferocious intensity..." "...Michael Lang, who coached the South/Central team, took it one step further. “We started practice on Monday and Monday night I got a call from Morrow to ask if he could play,” Lang said. “My first reaction is ‘You have to be kidding.’ I asked him why he wanted to play since he was already set for school. He just said it was something that he wanted to do. He came to practice the next day and showed why he is the player that he is and we are grateful that he chose to play.” Quote
49r Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 Wow, I thought that was Bob Ley there at first. Took me a while to realize it wasn't. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
ajb5856 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 Wow I sure hope Mark Krueger is at least 6'6" or 6'7" Quote
Swan88 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 Mark Krueger is, actually, a pretty big guy.But regardless of Edward's size, gotta love this picture showing Edward's athleticism [hope this link works]:https://mobile.twitter.com/CN100Sports/status/589529239797379073 https://twitter.com/CN100Sports/status/589529239797379073/Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Silverbacked1 1 Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted April 22, 2015 Report Posted April 22, 2015 Final Rivals 150 comes out today. So we should see where he ended up. Quote
49r Posted April 22, 2015 Report Posted April 22, 2015 Final Rivals 150 comes out today. So we should see where he ended up. Red Rum and Silverbacked1 2 Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted April 22, 2015 Report Posted April 22, 2015 so he basically stayed the same as I believe he was 103 and is now at 105. I dont see how he didnt move up at all. Quote
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