KenPom 2024-2025 KenPom Rankings Thread

[hhcmatt]

15 minutes ago, AGHANSEN said:

Since every team has played a game, KenPom has his full rankings out.

Nebraska ranks 16 in average height and 25 in experience. 

Our non-con schedule ranks 211. 

 

The age stat probably goes down a little once/if Frager/Janowski play.

 

19-20: 1.33 yrs 236th

20-21: 1.82 yrs 107th

21-22: 1.42 yrs 287th

22-23: 2.05 yrs 154th

23-24: 2.54 yrs 50th

24-25: 2.73 yrs 25th

 

Call us Redwoods because we're huge and old

[TourneyBound]

2 hours ago, AGHANSEN said:

Since every team has played a game, KenPom has his full rankings out.

Nebraska ranks 16 in average height and 25 in experience. 

Our non-con schedule ranks 211. 

How does that compare to last year.?  Schedule that is

[Vinny]

6 minutes ago, TourneyBound said:

How does that compare to last year.?  Schedule that is

Warren Nolan had us at 214 last year in non-con. I looked there because where I know how to find it fastest. After conference games were factored our overall SOS was 71.

[hhcmatt]

56 minutes ago, TourneyBound said:

How does that compare to last year.?  Schedule that is

 

I don't believe our SOS is updated until we play the game

[49r]

3 hours ago, TourneyBound said:

How does that compare to last year.?  Schedule that is

 

By the end of the year last year our non-con SOS was #322.  Overall was #62, so a little weak.  This year's schedule should end up being a little better but it'll be hard to tell for sure until the end of the season.

[kldm64]

What helped us last year was we didn't have any Q3 or Q4 losses.  We beat the teams we should have.  With a weak non-conference schedule like we have, you can't afford any slip-ups.  

[hskr4life]

1 hour ago, kldm64 said:

What helped us last year was we didn't have any Q3 or Q4 losses.  We beat the teams we should have.  With a weak non-conference schedule like we have, you can't afford any slip-ups.  

And this year is a little tougher because you’re in an MTE where most, if not all teams, hurt you should you lose. It isn’t like a Maui, Bahamas, etc style MTE where there are a lot of solid teams.

 

So we’re going to be playing thousands of miles away from home against teams where we can’t afford to lose in an environment that’s probably pretty sleepy.

 

Oregon St in Sioux Falls was a completely different story in terms of playing a not great opponent at a “neutral” site.

[hhcmatt]

I'd put most of the opponents in Hawaii in the Q2-Q3 zone.

Murray St projects as a bad 3pt shooting team so the chance of them getting the upset are lesser IMO.

In theory one of these games might be in the same quad as playing someone like USC or Minnesota at home. I think if we end up playing Hawaii then it's considered a road game.

[49r]

I thought I'd better get an update out, haven't done one since the start of the season.  Keep an eye on UTRGV, they've shot up into the 100's after starting the season over 300.  That win is looking nicer all the time!  Also check out Penn State, they haven't really played anyone but they have dominated in the games they have played.  Creighton for better or worse has dropped from 10 to 33, and that is probably the biggest reason why our non-con strength of schedule is down to 215.  And with that said, it's time for today's KenPom update.  Here we go!

 

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KenPom rankings as of 11-24-24

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B1G (0-0):
16. Purdue (A)
18. Ohio State (2)
22. UCLA (H)

27. Michigan (H)
28. Illinois (H)

29. Maryland (2)
30. Wisconsin (A)
32. Oregon (A)

34. Penn State (A)
36. Indiana (H)
43. Michigan State (A)
46. Iowa (2)
49. Nebraska

58. Northwestern (A)
68. Rutgers (H)
82. Minnesota (H)

83. USC (H)

86. Washington (A)

 

 

Non-Conference (4-1):
199. UTRGV - W

278. Bethune Cookman - W
350. Farliegh Dickinson - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
42. Saint Mary’s - L

 

33. @Creighton - W

252. South Dakota
176. North Florida

 

—Diamond Head Classic---

101. Murray State

160./189. Charlotte/Hawaii

99./124./81./226. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland

 

266. Southern

[49r]

Thought I'd add the projected records from both KenPom and Torvik today too.  They're both pretty close and keep in mind these projections do not include the 2nd and 3rd games in Hawaii:

 

KenPom:

Projected record:

17-12

9-11

 

Torvik:

Projected Record: 17-12 (10-10)

 

 

[millerhusker]

Not looking forward to the Hawaii trip. Have we ever come back home after a holiday tournament without a loss? A win against any of those teams won't mean anything at the end of the year. A loss will probably end up being a quad 3 or 4 loss. 

Long flight, 4 or 5 hour time difference. A night game against a scrappy (I assume) Steve Prohm team in a sleepy gym. Might have to play Hawaii in Hawaii and that has never gone well for Nebraska. 

We should never sign up for these tournaments. Yeah, maybe an early season trip and three neutral site games can help your team come together and prepare you for later in the year. But I don't really buy into that. It's more important to avoid non-con resume blemishes. 

[LincecumFan]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

I thought I'd better get an update out, haven't done one since the start of the season.  Keep an eye on UTRGV, they've shot up into the 100's after starting the season over 300.  That win is looking nicer all the time!  Also check out Penn State, they haven't really played anyone but they have dominated in the games they have played.  Creighton for better or worse has dropped from 10 to 33, and that is probably the biggest reason why our non-con strength of schedule is down to 215.  And with that said, it's time for today's KenPom update.  Here we go!

 

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KenPom rankings as of 11-24-24

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B1G (0-0):
16. Purdue (A)
18. Ohio State (2)
22. UCLA (H)

27. Michigan (H)
28. Illinois (H)

29. Maryland (2)
30. Wisconsin (A)
32. Oregon (A)

34. Penn State (A)
36. Indiana (H)
43. Michigan State (A)
46. Iowa (2)
49. Nebraska

58. Northwestern (A)
68. Rutgers (H)
82. Minnesota (H)

83. USC (H)

86. Washington (A)

 

 

Non-Conference (4-1):
199. UTRGV - W

278. Bethune Cookman - W
350. Farliegh Dickinson - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
42. Saint Mary’s - L

 

33. @Creighton - W

252. South Dakota
176. North Florida

 

—Diamond Head Classic---

101. Murray State

160./189. Charlotte/Hawaii

99./124./81./226. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland

 

266. Southern

Does this ranking include Iowa's loss to Utah State? Can't see how they would be ahead of NU following that loss.

[hskr4life]

42 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

Not looking forward to the Hawaii trip. Have we ever come back home after a holiday tournament without a loss? A win against any of those teams won't mean anything at the end of the year. A loss will probably end up being a quad 3 or 4 loss. 

Long flight, 4 or 5 hour time difference. A night game against a scrappy (I assume) Steve Prohm team in a sleepy gym. Might have to play Hawaii in Hawaii and that has never gone well for Nebraska. 

We should never sign up for these tournaments. Yeah, maybe an early season trip and three neutral site games can help your team come together and prepare you for later in the year. But I don't really buy into that. It's more important to avoid non-con resume blemishes. 

Going 2-1 has always been my worry. It isn’t like that other Hawaiian tournament where every game is probably a Q1 game at the end of the day.  Maui light presents a tough challenge of playing far away from home, in a small gym, in games that we can’t afford to lose.

 

Maybeee going 2-1 with that loss being in the championship against OSU might be ok by the end of the year, but even that’s probably a stretch.

[Vinny]

42 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

Not looking forward to the Hawaii trip. Have we ever come back home after a holiday tournament without a loss? A win against any of those teams won't mean anything at the end of the year. A loss will probably end up being a quad 3 or 4 loss. 

Long flight, 4 or 5 hour time difference. A night game against a scrappy (I assume) Steve Prohm team in a sleepy gym. Might have to play Hawaii in Hawaii and that has never gone well for Nebraska. 

We should never sign up for these tournaments. Yeah, maybe an early season trip and three neutral site games can help your team come together and prepare you for later in the year. But I don't really buy into that. It's more important to avoid non-con resume blemishes. 

If we didn’t show the resilience we did against St. Mary’s and then have that defensive showing Creighton I would be in the same boat. It seems this team is already gelling a bit and that leaves me less apprehensive about the trip. We also have four more games, including two B1G games before hand that should have us ready as well. 

[cozrulz]

8 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Not looking forward to the Hawaii trip. Have we ever come back home after a holiday tournament without a loss? A win against any of those teams won't mean anything at the end of the year. A loss will probably end up being a quad 3 or 4 loss. 

Long flight, 4 or 5 hour time difference. A night game against a scrappy (I assume) Steve Prohm team in a sleepy gym. Might have to play Hawaii in Hawaii and that has never gone well for Nebraska. 

We should never sign up for these tournaments. Yeah, maybe an early season trip and three neutral site games can help your team come together and prepare you for later in the year. But I don't really buy into that. It's more important to avoid non-con resume blemishes. 

 

We can be different team this year.

[LincecumFan]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1860868468783870424

 

Hold on to your hats, but Jeff Goodman has NU rated #17. 

[Huskerpapa]

I will say this now...there WILL be referees that will not find our physical style of play to their liking.  Those games will be rather, ahem, frustrating. 

[hskr4life]

1 hour ago, LincecumFan said:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1860868468783870424

 

Hold on to your hats, but Jeff Goodman has NU rated #17. 

 

St. Mary's gets the nod above us due to them beating us and he had to put us in if he wanted to keep Creighton in there too.

[49r]

9 hours ago, LincecumFan said:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1860868468783870424

 

Hold on to your hats, but Jeff Goodman has NU rated #17. 

 

Go home Jeff, you're drunk.

[Sidelines - Nebraska]

10 hours ago, LincecumFan said:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1860868468783870424

 

Hold on to your hats, but Jeff Goodman has NU rated #17. 

I've never said anything bad ever about Jeff Goodman (how do you look in Orange)

[Art Vandalay]

11 hours ago, LincecumFan said:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1860868468783870424

 

Hold on to your hats, but Jeff Goodman has NU rated #17. 

One of the bractetology guys I follow has us as a 8 seed too. I know it means absolutely nothing this early but always fun to see us in there.

[hskr4life]

St. Mary's will play USC (5-1) and then if they win that one, a 6-1 New Mexico or Arizona State. If they come out of this week undefeated, they'll go to Utah in early December. Win that one too and they don't play the Zags until February 1.

[Norm Peterson]

On 11/24/2024 at 9:31 AM, 49r said:

I thought I'd better get an update out, haven't done one since the start of the season.  Keep an eye on UTRGV, they've shot up into the 100's after starting the season over 300.  That win is looking nicer all the time!  Also check out Penn State, they haven't really played anyone but they have dominated in the games they have played.  Creighton for better or worse has dropped from 10 to 33, and that is probably the biggest reason why our non-con strength of schedule is down to 215.  And with that said, it's time for today's KenPom update.  Here we go!

 

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KenPom rankings as of 11-24-24

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B1G (0-0):
16. Purdue (A)
18. Ohio State (2)
22. UCLA (H)

27. Michigan (H)
28. Illinois (H)

29. Maryland (2)
30. Wisconsin (A)
32. Oregon (A)

34. Penn State (A)
36. Indiana (H)
43. Michigan State (A)
46. Iowa (2)
49. Nebraska

58. Northwestern (A)
68. Rutgers (H)
82. Minnesota (H)

83. USC (H)

86. Washington (A)

 

 

Non-Conference (4-1):
199. UTRGV - W

278. Bethune Cookman - W
350. Farliegh Dickinson - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
42. Saint Mary’s - L

 

33. @Creighton - W

252. South Dakota
176. North Florida

 

—Diamond Head Classic---

101. Murray State

160./189. Charlotte/Hawaii

99./124./81./226. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland

 

266. Southern

 

Take a good look at the Home-onlies and the Away-onlies.

 

You want your away-onlies to be road wins you could potentially pick up. You want your home-onlies to be teams you might only be able to beat at home and probably lose to on the road. And you don't really want to waste a home-only on a team that likely beats you either way.

 

I'd say this looks pretty good for us. There's a cluster of away-only conference foes in the 30-60 Kenpom range. Purdue, at the top of the league, is away, but we might lose to them regardless. But the next 3 single-game teams, all in the Kenpom 20-30 range, are all at home.

[millerhusker]

First NET rankings of the year are out and Nebraska comes in at 44. Our first ranking last year was 76.  Creighton is 99. Not close to a quad 1 win as of now. We kinda really need them to beat Kansas on Wednesday. 

[ShortDust]

22 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

First NET rankings of the year are out and Nebraska comes in at 44. Our first ranking last year was 76.  Creighton is 99. Not close to a quad 1 win as of now. We kinda really need them to beat Kansas on Wednesday. 

That would be nice, but I think they’ll be fine and still end up in the top 50 of the NET and it’ll be a Q1 for the good guys.