KenPom 2023-2024 KenPom Rankings Thread

[millerhusker]

6 hours ago, AuroranHusker said:

What's the word on Nebraska's S.O.R.? That seems like an important metric to the committee...

 

#29 as of yesterday so our “SOR seed” would be the highest 8 seed. I do think we are much more comfortably in right now than the bracketologists are projecting. Happens every year. A team or two they think are teetering on the bubble ends up being a 7 or 8 seed. Our resume feels like that type of team right now. Still have to take care of business though. 
 

Michigan State’s SOR is #39. If the season ended today I think they’d be more bubbly in the eyes of the committee than we are, yet everyone has them as a 7 seed. I can hear Greg Gumbel’s surprise already. 

Edited February 23 by millerhusker

[Shawn Eichorst's Toupee]

8 hours ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

That was the 3rd of three straight wins over MSU, including two on the road. Be nice to get back to regularly beating MSU...

 

 

For a while there, Tim had Sparty's number

[big red22]

8 hours ago, AuroranHusker said:

What's the word on Nebraska's S.O.R.? That seems like an important metric to the committee...

 

Where do you find this @?

[hhcmatt]

39 minutes ago, big red22 said:

Where do you find this @?

 

Here is one place to find SOR as well as other metrics

https://barttorvik.com/teamsheets.php

[hskr4life]

What’s helped more than SOR moving into the 20’s is that our quality metrics (Pom and BPI) have bumped up

into the low 30’s.  Keep them there and we’ll have no sweating to do on Selection Sunday.

[AuroranHusker]

3 hours ago, Shawn Eichorst's Toupee said:

 

For a while there, Tim had Sparty's number

 

And, yet, somehow Izzo wrote a foreword for Miles' book "Nebrasketball." 

 

[AuroranHusker]

2 hours ago, hskr4life said:

What’s helped more than SOR moving into the 20’s is that our quality metrics (Pom and BPI) have bumped up

into the low 30’s.  Keep them there and we’ll have no sweating to do on Selection Sunday.

 

S.O.R. has been good to NU. Let's keep it rollin' as far as B1G dubs.

[hhcmatt]

15 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

And, yet, somehow Izzo wrote a foreword for Miles' book "Nebrasketball." 

 

 

Once gave Izzo a ride home on the Nebrasketball Jet

[AuroranHusker]

1 minute ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Once gave Izzo a ride home on the Nebrasketball Jet

 

Oh my, MSU got too tight of a flight budget for their legendary coach. lol

 

[huskerkid21]

21 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

And, yet, somehow Izzo wrote a foreword for Miles' book "Nebrasketball." 

 

great book, but the ending still sucks 

[hhcmatt]

13 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

Oh my, MSU got too tight of a flight budget for their legendary coach. lol

 

No, more of an impromptu flight and there was room for Izzo instead of him having to take a commercial flight 

 

 

[AuroranHusker]

1 minute ago, hhcmatt said:

 

No, more of an impromptu flight and there was room for Izzo instead of him having to take a commercial flight 

 

 

 

I was just jokin' - I remember the story.

[hhcmatt]

2 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

I was just jokin' - I remember the story.

 

 

[AuroranHusker]

Just now, hhcmatt said:

 

 

 

Okay, Doc.

 

[jimmykc]

34 minutes ago, huskerkid21 said:

great book, but the ending still sucks 

Review: 'Nebrasketball' by Scott Winter (journalstar.com)

[Ron Mexico]

I look at that '17-'18 schedule and it's still unbelievable to me that we didn't get in. 13-5 in conference finishing 4th and didn't get in which was a conference first. We won 22 regular season games which is tied for second most in program history and was also a conference first. Longest losing streak was 2 games. I know I know Q1 wins...blah blah blah. Before this season I always thought that the committee really wanted us to make the NCAA's just so we'd finally get that win. We were a freaking 5 seed in the NIT with 22 wins.

 

The very next season we won 2 games in the conference tournament, and barely lost to Wisconsin in the quarter finals, which is the only time we've ever done that in the BIG. Before that the last time we won 2 games in a conference tournament, Nee was our coach. That season was looking good before we went on a 7 game losing streak starting in mid January. We followed that up with 2 wins before going on a 4 game losing streak. That same season we actually won an NIT game, which we hadn't done since 2008 under Doc. We were a 4 seed...a 4 seed, with a 19-17 record, thanks to those 2 conference tournament wins, with a 6-14 regular season conference record, yet the prior season we where a 5 seed! Make it make sense.

 

 

All of that is to say...

If the committee wanted us in they would have put us in 2019.

I think at the edges the committee is corrupt and 2019 shows that and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

I don't care what anyone says, we are bubble team, until we are officially in the tournament, and I wouldn't be surprised if we finished out the season going 2-2 and losing our first game in the conference tournament and then not make the NCAA's. The talking heads on ESPN, etc. will get their marching orders from the committee spokesperson who will rail on about winning only 1 conference road game with only 1 Q1 win. See below for how that can happen. If anyone thinks there would be some sort of outrage or hue and cry over us not getting in then you are sorely mistaken. Remember there is a precedent here. See 2019.

If there is any saving grace it's that we have KT, which will surely bring in a huge Japanese market to watch games.

I also think HCFH has a lot more name cache than Tim Miles.

We aren't in until we are in.

 

As info, both Wisconsin(21, remaining games at IU, Illinois, Rutgers, at Purde ), losers of 5 of their last 6, and MSU(23, remaining games OSU, at Purdue, NWU, at IU), coming off a home loss to Iowa, are barely Q1 wins and if they slip then we are in big trouble. 

 

Remember the talking heads in 2018 though we where in as well and then the talk of a down year in the conference    and the lack of Q1 wins. Does all this sound familiar.

 

I'm not going to play the role of Charlie Brown thinking I kick that ball while it's being held by Lucy. The only way I kick that ball is if it is on a tee.

 

[HuskerFever]

5 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Remember the talking heads in 2018 though we where in

 

Not to pinpoint one point of your much longer purpose, but I vividly recall we had zero support from BTN analysts. Never fought for us and, in fact, told all the reasons we shouldn't be in. I won't forget that.

[Ron Mexico]

2 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Not to pinpoint one point of your much longer purpose, but I vividly recall we had zero support from BTN analysts. Never fought for us and, in fact, told all the reasons we shouldn't be in. I won't forget that.

Was that before or after the selection committee? I don't recall if they did any poopooing before.

[HuskerFever]

Just now, Ron Mexico said:

Was that before or after the selection committee? I don't recall if they did any poopooing before.

 

Definitely before. But I'll leave it up to others on the board to comment to make sure I'm not falling in revisionist history. Was certainly vivid to be though.

[REDZONEDAN]

23 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Definitely before. But I'll leave it up to others on the board to comment to make sure I'm not falling in revisionist history. Was certainly vivid to be though.

I remember the same thing.  I felt it was both before and after.  Thought it was kind of shitty at that time that the BTN analyst didn’t give us any credit (even though they were probably correct based on our resume).  Talent wise I felt we belonged.

[cozrulz]

1 hour ago, Ron Mexico said:

Before that the last time we won 2 games in a conference tournament, Nee was our coach.

 

Nah.  We made the semis in 2005-06.

[hskr4life]

1 hour ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Definitely before. But I'll leave it up to others on the board to comment to make sure I'm not falling in revisionist history. Was certainly vivid to be though.

 

This was true-- it was always about the "work we still needed to do" and not just our body of work to that point.  If I remember correctly, some even thought we needed at least 2 wins in the B1G tournament that year... that even beating Michigan wouldn't get the job completely done.  Looking at where we ended up that's not a stretch either.

[AuroranHusker]

2 hours ago, Ron Mexico said:

I look at that '17-'18 schedule . . .

 

The very next season we won 2 games in the conference tournament, and barely lost to Wisconsin in the quarter finals, which is the only time we've ever done that in the BIG. Before that the last time we won 2 games in a conference tournament, Nee was our coach...

 

 

Barry Collier won 2 games in the Big 12 tournament after the 2005-06 season, and then bounced after N.I.T. post-season play to become AD at Butler, which ironically is the job he's retiring from this very year, a full 18 years later... guess it worked for B.C. pretty well, despite that odd timing in Aug. 2006, which lead to Doc Sadler at NU. Oh what a tangled web that Nebrasketball weaves.

 

Edited February 24 by AuroranHusker

[millerhusker]

4 hours ago, Ron Mexico said:

Was that before or after the selection committee? I don't recall if they did any poopooing before.

Nobody thought we were in that year. I remember having zero interest on selection Sunday because it was known that we didn’t have a legit shot. It’s very different this year. 

[hhcmatt]

20 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

Nobody thought we were in that year. I remember having zero interest on selection Sunday because it was known that we didn’t have a legit shot. It’s very different this year. 

 

Bracketmatrix was around back then and we were a consensus out

Syracuse and Arizona St were the surprise picks while USC and St Marys were the surprise snubs

 

http://bracketmatrix.com/matrix_2018.html