KenPom 2022-2023 KenPom Rankings Thread

[hskr4life]

Latest bracketology... if you're into that sort of thing has Nebraska hosting Nova with a possible trip for Normy to UNT should we win that one.  Also would have Tim Miles returning to Lincoln should SJSU win.  

 

 

[royalfan]

So that would suggest that we are somewhere between 13th and 16th team out of dance if chalk holds in conference tourneys.  Can that be made up with wins over Minny Maryland Indiana and NW that would have us 9-1 in last ten? Selection  folks have shown tendencies to be lazy in regards to Sunday conference tourney games in the past.  I think we are four wins away from dance.

[hskr4life]

19 minutes ago, royalfan said:

So that would suggest that we are somewhere between 13th and 16th team out of dance if chalk holds in conference tourneys.  Can that be made up with wins over Minny Maryland Indiana and NW that would have us 9-1 in last ten? Selection  folks have shown tendencies to be lazy in regards to Sunday conference tourney games in the past.  I think we are four wins away from dance.

I think the same as well.  Should we beat Minny, Maryland, Indiana… I think we’re squarely on the bubble (wrong side) but the committee is drawing up a scenario should we win Saturday.

 

That would also give us 2-3 more Q1 wins (away from home) and 20 wins overall.

 

Winning 4 is still a large task, but not completely out of the question.  A gold ole spanking of Minny tomorrow would be a great place to start.

[hskr4life]

As we noted with Boston College upsetting Virginia.... it would be good for our non-conference opponents to go on some little runs here to end the year.  So here is a quick rundown of each with their first conference tourney game bold and underlined.

 

Maine: After a promising start (4-1 with a win at Boston College) completely collapsed and finished the year 13-17.  Lost in 1st round of conference tournament on Saturday.

 

UNO: Rough year for the Mavs-- finished 9-23.  Did win their first conference tournament game but ultimately lost to SDSU to end their year.

 

St Johns: Started the year 13-1 before finishing the year 4-13... Ouch.  Arguably our biggest NET killer right now.  Sitting at 17-14, they received the 8 seed in the conference tournament.  Need to root for them to beat Butler WEDNESDAY and then they'll play Marquette.  Don't want them to win too many as they aren't projected in the NIT as of today.

 

Ark Pine Bluff: Finished the year 10-21.  They will be staying home in March as the SWAC only takes 8 teams to it's conference tournament and... they aren't one.

 

OU: What to make of Oklahoma?  They have had an up and down year finishing at 15-16 overall but also sit at #65 in the NET.  They'll get the 10 seed in the Big 12 tournament and play Oklahoma State WEDNESDAY night.  If you have any NCAA aspirations, cheer for a win vs OSU and loss vs Texas.  A win then loss probably knocks them out of the NIT and also knocks OSU out of the NCAA's.

 

Memphis: Pretty good year for Memphis finishing 32-8 and projected 9 seed in the dance.  They've earned the 2 seed in the AAC and will play the winner of UCF/SMU on FRIDAY.  Would benefit us for them to go as far as possible.

 

FSU: Finished just 9-22 overall for the year, but did turn it around some in conference finishing their conference slate 7-11.  They've earned the 12 seed and will play GA Tech TUESDAY.  Of course would benefit us for them to go as far as possible without winning it all.  

 

Boston College:  Talk about a decent turnaround.  This team started the year losing games to Maine, Tarleton State, and New Hampshire.  Ended up going 9-11 in the ACC and earning the 10 seed en route to a 15-16 record.  They will play TUEDAY against Louisville in the first round of the tourney and then play North Carolina.  Arguably one of the bigger rooting interests in the next few days as a few wins helps us and knocks UNC out of NCAA conversation probably.  

 

Creighton: Roller Coaster of a season saw them finish 20-11 and 14-6 in conference play.  That was good enough for the 3 seed and a projected 6 seed in the Dance.  I'm going to vomit, but it would greatly benefit us for them to go as far as possible due to it being our marquee OOC win... starting with their game on THURSDAY.  They'll likely face Villanova who, as we know, is a fellow NIT bubble contender right now.

 

KSU:  What once looked like the darling of the Big 12 and possible regular season champ, took a little tumble toward the end of the year.  Finished the year 23-8 and just 11-7 in conference play.  They drew the 3 seed in the Big 12 tournament and will play THURSDAY in the late game against TCU.  With the Big 12 being the darlings of the dance... projected 7-8 teams in the dance (70-80%), it would be beneficial for us if KSU won the whole thing.

 

Queens:  Came into our game 9-2 and I thought maybe they could help boost our OOC SOS.  However, they limped out the rest of their season to the tune of a 7-11 conference record and 18-15 overall record.  Earning the 9 seed in their conference tournament, they did beat Florida Gulf Coast before losing the the #1 seed Kennesaw State by 1.

[royalfan]

It matters so little now as far as moving in the NET goes I wouldn’t lose much sleep other than ones that can impact the crazy (far too wide spread) quads. 

each of our opponents games matter roughly two or three percent as much as our own games do.  And as evidenced by Iowa win moving us two spots, that isn’t very much.  Our NET was doomed when we lost too many games by a lot when didn’t have our full team or were adjusting to devastating injuries.  It cannot be undone. 

[hskr4life]

3 minutes ago, royalfan said:

It matters so little now as far as moving in the NET goes I wouldn’t lose much sleep other than ones that can impact the crazy (far too wide spread) quads. 

each of our opponents games matter roughly two or three percent as much as our own games do.  And as evidenced by Iowa win moving us two spots, that isn’t very much.  Our NET was doomed when we lost too many games by a lot when didn’t have our full team or were adjusting to devastating injuries.  It cannot be undone. 

 

Correct in terms of the NET-- it probably doesn't matter much.  However, in terms of other bubbly teams (both NCAA and NIT) and H2H against other teams, it could move the needle just in a discussion room.  So, in that respect... we have some rooting interests.

[HuskerFever]

The sad reality, too, is that if you don't find validity in the NET then you can't use Quad records as a basis for us either.

[hskr4life]

8 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

The sad reality, too, is that if you don't find validity in the NET then you can't use Quad records as a basis for us either.

 

I think I saw a tweet that says they use the NET for seeding, but use metrics like SOR and KPI for determining who is in/out and I'm pretty sure we're in the 60's in those metrics.

[royalfan]

Was curious to see what the result on our actual Ken POM score is by a game such as BC winning by 9 more than expected by Pomeroy did for us.  Moved us up .02 points.  Us beating Minny by 6 would drop us by .19 points minus a tiny bump for Minny improvement in the POM for only losing by 6.   We are really hurt by the fact we played them when they were healthy all 3 times and they got destroyed while they were not.  The NET will largely mirror the Pomeroy movement wise at this point of the season.  Tough deal.  

[HuskerFever]

I still stand behind it that it would be as big of a gut punch if we don't make the NIT this year as it was for us to get a road game vs. Mississippi State in 2018.

[hskr4life]

NIT bubble team Seton Hall falls to DePaul… a reallly bad loss.

[FredsSlacks]

wisconsin is definitely out. 

[hhcmatt]

Wisconsin being either in the NIT or NCAA doesn't really effect us unless we're still playing on Saturday

[brfrad]

6 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Wisconsin being either in the NIT or NCAA doesn't really effect us unless we're still playing on Saturday

It doesn't really effect us, but it would make me super happy if they went to the NIT.

[MichHusker]

Completely meaningless but T-Rank's 2024 projections has us at 63rd

[jimmykc]

We're in !!

[HuskerFever]

1 hour ago, MichHusker said:

Completely meaningless but T-Rank's 2024 projections has us at 63rd

 

7 minutes ago, jimmykc said:

We're in !!

 

Unfortunately March Madness doesn't compromise of the top 64 teams.

[hskr4life]

2 hours ago, MichHusker said:

Completely meaningless but T-Rank's 2024 projections has us at 63rd

 

If we win like all of our games... we should be able to jump up a sport or two I would think.  Maybe even reach the high 50's.

[Silverbacked1]

11 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

If we win like all of our games... we should be able to jump up a sport or two I would think.  Maybe even reach the high 50's.

We could be the first team to go undefeated and still not get in. Or maybe a 8 seed in the NIT

[Chuck Taylor]

Torvik has Sam H averaging 8.6 ppg. 

[HuskerFever]

1 hour ago, hskr4life said:

 

If we win like all of our games... we should be able to jump up a sport or two I would think.  Maybe even reach the high 50's.

 

High-50s, meaning total number of wins on the season?