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Welcome to capitalism and the free market, Norm. We don't do your socialist "free parking" here in America, buddy!

Oh hell you guys were productive today. So, to start with, Norm I'll be in the Red Zone this year as well as on the "committee" that works with some of the marketing department.(A few of them actually lurk here so I'm not going to be surprised when some of these come up in our first meeting.) The shuttles should be happening. When we first met with Boehm at the end of the 2011-2012 season that was one of the first things they asked us about. Seeing as how the walk will be quite a bit farther for campus students we're all for it. Dimes hit the nail on the head. One of our jobs is to troll the opposing team. We don't spend hours in class Twitter stalking players and making information sheets for no reason. We also have discussed mixing up our noise this year and using less white-noise (OOOOOOOOOOOO) and more chants. We met with Ubel last year and asked him what was the thing that would distract them the most. He answered with things that are random. Giant heads of things you would never expect, signs that make you bust out laughing, essentially, things that you can't ignore. He even said the whale would have been amazing had it not been banned. I just skimmed the posts so if you have more questions/suggestions post them up and I'll catch back-up/read-in-detail later tonight or tomorrow. Edit: As for now, I see students as having a perfect amount of seats in a good place. We could barely fill the 500 some floor seats in the Bob. Color me impressed if we fill up the sideline seats for 75% of nonconf. When it comes to basketball the students need to earn more seats before we can get them.(Football is a different case) However, I think the University should be overselling the student section. The student basketball tickets have been sold out for months, but I guarantee you most tickets go unused. It's been a running joke/bet for years. We'd all take a guess on how many tickets would be unclaimed by the time Conference games started. I won the 2011-2012 bet. I would love to see them oversell by 250-500 and the students that show up early get in. If you don't you're SOL.

The phrase, "We have a basketball team?" is punch worthy in my presence.

Jadler, I am no techy so I am not sure how this might work, but could you video the chants and use the "UNL facebook" or twitter or the Vine or something to send it to all the students, or at least all the student ticket holders. I don't know how you get all their account information, or whether UNL would give you their email addresses, etc. But my point is that if they could watch a video of the cheer/chant ahead of time, it would allow them to know what is going on and how it should go ahead of time. You could also give instruction as to when to use what cheer (ie, "Got it" after a 3 pointer, UGLY during a freethrow, a certain chant during the first media timeout, that type of thing.) Just a thought.

Back when I was in high school. If somebody fouled we had one guy yell "Who did it?" and the rest of us would point and yell "He did it" Then the guy would yell again "Who did it?" we would yell back "He did it" and then we would all yell "DON"T DO IT AGAIN." Was kind of cool, but it was in the late 70's, and so was short shorts and long socks so that it for what it worth.

The comment made by the cop was very hurtful to the orca family and he should be ashamed. PETA should be all over this.

A few thoughts: 1. Jadler - I would strongly encourage you NOT to get rid of the "OOOOOOOOOO" chant. Although I might agree that it may not be the most distracting chant for the opponent to handle, I can tell you unequivocally that as a NU fan in the crowd, it gets me pumped up every time. It makes me want to chant as well, and it brings energy to the entire arena IMO. I think that energy then rubs off on our players. It is the extra jolt that OUR players need when they are tired and feeling weary. I always lament the home games when students are on break. There is no energy and no noise. The "OOOOOOOOO" chant is a huge part of bringing that energy every game. That energy that it brings to all the other fans in the building, as well as our own players, is MUCH more valuable than maybe distracting the opponent on occasion. 2. Last year for the first few games, just before introducing the NU starting lineup, some of the band members would come out onto the floor playing their drums (that were lit up in red lights BTW) along with the intro music. I thought this was one of the coolest ideas I had seen in awhile at the NU games. I know it got me pumped up. I cannot tell you how frustrating it was as a fan to see it disappear by about the 5th game of the season. Just like the NU administration to not know a good thing when they finally find one. Bring that back, or at least some variation. 3. We had a thread on ways to improve the gameday environment about 2 or 3 years ago (maybe even more, time flies). Maybe somebody can find it. There were a lot of different ideas in that thread, some better than others, but it seems we might be trying to regurgitate a lot of what has already been said and discussed. 4. The sound board person must be aware of time and circumstance when making selections. No more "school announcements" or "statements from the AD or any other player or administrator" when the game is tight and the crowd is jacked. Keep the momentum going, don't kill it. If the NU Admin. absolutely must promote something, then do it early or during timeouts when the energy is down a bit. Again, time and circumstance.

like I've stated in other threads. You get 12 official visits allowed per year for basketball and NU will only sign 2-3 players so why not exhaust your visits on your Plan B guys. That way if Plan A doesnt work out that guy has already made his trip and you dont have to scramble.

I really don't have anything to add to this thread, I just figured my odds were pretty good on getting a +1 if I posted. Good day, everyone!

In regards to crowd participation, what's been eluded to with the Volleyball and Class A stuff mentioned above, there really isn't a couple of standard cheers that we have to fall back on. The call and answer "Go Big Red" that works for football doesn't really work with the pace of basketball. I think the focus of the Student section is on trolling the other team and having fun...not necessarily to get the rest of the crowd to participate. That either has to come from cheerleaders, some sort of spirit squad, or magically come from the crowd itself. Heck, if someone has a good idea for a Husker chant we can put that on the back of these shirts. How about a drawn out monotone "CAN...YOU...FEEL....IT" for when we know we have a game won....ala Rock Chalk.

Probably uses the HHC Scholarship Breakdown page and a couple of spreadsheets

Actually, the best way to get the crowd to chant something would be a Tim Miles pregame tweet. Sounds like a good addition to the Tim Miles Half time tweet.

On the flipside, If $3-$5 per game encourages people to carpool/not park near the stadium, it makes it just a little easier for everyone else to get out of there.

Jadler, if you do get to meet with the band director, could you ask him to GET SOME NEW F***ING CHARTS? They've been playing the same (seems like about 5) songs for the past 25 years!!! I mean, for God's sake some of the saxophone sheets probably still have my fingerprints on them!!! Also, I like the hand signal idea.

1. Creighton Fan, I'm pretty sure I didn't show up until halfway through the Creighton game (class that I couldn't miss) so there may have been drums but I probably missed them. 2. Creighton Fan, the half shirt gentleman was another member of our "Committee." It was our Tom Osborne themed night because it was the last home game before 1 Jan 2013 when he stepped down as AD. Also, we were inebriated. 3. Don't worry all, the orca is safe in my basement guarding my keg and deep-freeze. 4. The "Got It" yell. Kent actually approached us with the idea with 3-4 games left last year. He was hoping on the first made 3-pointer that he could take off his headset and hold it up while we all yell "GOT IT." Only problem was a few coincided with the first score and ended up being our confetti toss. I'll add doing that every 3 to the list of suggestions. 5. Why all the hate for "left right?" It's one of the few things that carry over from high school basketball that almost every student knows. Sure the timing of the "Sit Down" could be detrimental, however, we have been getting better at just not saying it if the free throw is about to happen. List of suggestions, added. 6. U-G-L-Y could do some damage. It will be easier to organize consistent free-throw distractions for half a game now that we only control one hoop. Essentially anytime I wanted to do something organized I'd have to run up the stairs and use my big boy voice to yell the plan to the left and to the right. I'd then have to run back down and to the south corner of East-side and inform the band. Then squeeze back up front, stand on the bleachers and get everyone's attention when we start. You can see why shit didn't work so well. We need to set up a way to seat people who know what to do or we can relay hand signals.(For the final year in the Bob we were thinking of using an Oregon style play call sign to announce chants between East and West sides. 7. The Band. The fucking Band. Time out in crunch time and we're only down 3? HAIL VARSITY!!! The crowd is jumping around screaming because we just took the lead? HAIL VARSITY!!! We hate it. We've asked to meet with the band director and sound guys. It needs to stop. They need to understand when they should just let us be noisy and maybe pump in "Be Faithful" or "Let me Clear my Throat" towards the end of the timeout. 8. Coach, I agree, chants are effective. It's hard to start them when most of the student section doesn't know them. So we try to pass them back, run back and yell what to chant, but it's much easier when people have an idea. We've start printing new ones on our scouting sheets we place on the seats before games, but as you can see people didn't pay much attention. Holy hell, I'm never this productive before noon.

Not only no but HEEELLLLLLLL NO! EVERYBODY did that crap in the 80's and 90's, and I mean EVERYBODY (it's been attributed to Kansas by the way), and it's so played out it's just....no. By the way the song is "Rock and Roll Part II" and Oklahoma State still does it (I think so do the Chiefs) and it just sounds stupid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YprGECobIXQ Other played out rock anthems at basketball games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMLiqEqMQyQ I do think that Ohio State and their playing "Hang on Sloopy" is awesome. But the other stuff above...forget it. (My opinion, of course)

I'll rehash a little of what I said in the Bolden thread. Heck, it might not have even been his thread, can't remember anymore. Bolden hasn't said anything that I'm aware of as to where his interest lies. But we do have that connection. Miles and Harriman were in Australia this summer and while they were there, Harriman probably introduced Miles to his old pro teammate, roommate, and buddy, Bruce Bolden. Who knows how far that will carry us, but I'm assuming we have a chance with Bolden until we hear differently. Washut also penned this title: "Huskers Among Leaders For Aussie Standout Bolden". He has a Nebraska offer for gods sake and I don't think you just take a flier and write that if there's only some random story about a connection from years ago that won't matter at all. If I'm not mistaken Findlay Prep plays in GI this year? Did I read that on here? Maybe I'm making this up again.

Has Bolden actually said he has any interest in us? All I've heard is that his dad knows Coach Harriman. Now that he will be playing prep ball in the U.S., and with Louisville and others already on him, I don't think we'll be on his radar. Smith seems to be a great athlete and garbage-man type but not a great offensive player. That would be okay if he were about 3 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier.....but Gilmore has the same size and athleticism and can also score. Not really high on Deng, his stats aren't great and I don't see why we need a JUCO forward with all the young talent we have at that position. So I say lock up Gilmore and Wacker and start putting all efforts into the 2015 class.

yes. Would you rather have both zach and david as a package deal,or take our chances of getting either gilmore or bolden? I would rather go after Gilmore and Bolden. I would not make Zach Smith's offer committable, unless Gilmore completely eliminates Nebraska. I think Gilmore is a better player as well as the fact that he gives Nebraska future recruiting connections to Anderson in the 2015 class and Janacek in the 2016 class. I would like to see Nebraka exhaust all possibilities with Gilmore and Bolden, before moving on to anyone else. Don't forget about Deng Deng. You've got Gilmore, Deng Deng, and Zach Smith. All 3 in the small forward category. All 3 with comparable offers. All 3 with Texas ties. Gilmore has been very high on Nebraska and he is the obviously the most well known of the group, carrying the rivals rating and the 4-stars. The other two are lesser known, but each with some nice offers and/or interest. It should also be noted that Zach Smith was an AAU teammate of Jacob Hammond on the ProSkills17 team from the Dallas area. Remember that Hammond was originally from Texas (or at least spent time there) and split time between the ProSkills (Dallas) and Compton Magic (Okla City) AAU teams.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2162335/highlights/43975563 well, he can dunk.

yes. Would you rather have both zach and david as a package deal, or take our chances of getting either gilmore or bolden? I would rather go after Gilmore and Bolden. I would not make Zach Smith's offer committable, unless Gilmore completely eliminates Nebraska. I think Gilmore is a better player as well as the fact that he gives Nebraska future recruiting connections to Anderson in the 2015 class and Janacek in the 2016 class. I would like to see Nebraka exhaust all possibilities with Gilmore and Bolden, before moving on to anyone else. +10000000000000000000000000

yes. Would you rather have both zach and david as a package deal, or take our chances of getting either gilmore or bolden? I would rather go after Gilmore and Bolden. I would not make Zach Smith's offer committable, unless Gilmore completely eliminates Nebraska. I think Gilmore is a better player as well as the fact that he gives Nebraska future recruiting connections to Anderson in the 2015 class and Janacek in the 2016 class. I would like to see Nebraka exhaust all possibilities with Gilmore and Bolden, before moving on to anyone else.

We need more guys like this.

That's right, uneblinstu. We don't seem to sustain noise very well or very long. We don't get other teams to wilt because of the crowd noise (and I know that happens in other places as well, not just KU.) I just don't want us to get out-yelled by another ISU-type crowd at our own place ever again. And I don't want us to fall into a complacent attitude where immediately go back into old, quiet habits.

Norm, I've been to a couple other arenas and I'd say that it's definitely a different kind of loud, if that makes sense. The Devaney Center could get loud. Very loud at times, but, take Allen Fieldhouse for instance, when KU got on one of their famous runs, their fans didn't just get loud, they got suffocating. I don't really know how to describe, it, but it was a case where all 16,000 fans were in full throat together and most of the time the opponent would just wilt. NU can get loud on a decibel meter, but it's a different kind of loud than what the Bob was. No TV broadcast has ever fully portrayed what i heard at AFH. It was worse than any football game I've ever been to. Part of it is just having an arena full of people that are engrossed in the game and want to be a part of it. It's (for the most part) not a social event in Lawrence, people aren't there to socialize, they're there to watch basketball and do their part to help the Jayhawks win. It's a party, not a gathering.

A friend that goes to almost all of the games used to say that the student section should yell "Got it." after 3-pointers a la Pavelka's emphatic call.

Ahhhhh, yeeeessssss. High School cheer sections. That's a great idea. Maybe we could get the Red Zone to do this (complete with the dance routine) during opponents' free throw attempts ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoXORtIibwQ

Dimes, I'm with ya. I think the cheerleaders need to be leading more cheers, basically. And it needs to be uniform stuff that people know and can join in with. And I will repeat that we need to bring the guys back. They just yell louder. Don't know what it is. Deeper voices probably. (I mean that seriously about the deeper voices. A mechanical engineering major explained it to me once.)

bball23, that's actually the point of the thread. I'm asking for ideas. Not just bitching to bitch (and I realize you weren't just pointing a finger at me but I want to make that clear to everyone.) I want ideas. I want suggestions. I like the idea of shuttles from the dorms but don't know if that's even possible. Should be plenty easy, though. It's a straight shot from Harper-Schram-Smith dorm complex down that new road that goes alongside the RR tracks right past PBA. Maybe they could used the buses that go between City Campus and East Campus. Don't know when the buses make their last run from East to City. But it would be easy enough to have a pick-up point somewhere between Abel-Sandoz and Cather-Pound and all that new housing and then swing by H-S-S, then straight down that avenue to the PBA. But, still, the crowd needs to get a little more creative. We have to stop -- and I mean absolutely HAVE to stop -- doing the "left, right, sit down!" thing when someone fouls out. The players have figured that one out and they sit down just as your own guy is getting ready to release his free throw shot. Talk about counter-productive. Anyway, I was hoping to get a discussion started. Does anyone know any of the current or recently former players? Anyone know Brandon Ubel? What did he see at other arenas that he thought made them difficult places to play in? Down there on the floor, does the crowd noise seem any less intimidating at Nebraska than at other places in the B1G? Or did Devaney seem like a morgue just to me? I tell ya, if we keep doing what we've been doing (and expecting different results?) then we should just nickname PBA "the Vault" because not only is a vault what they have in a bank but it's also where they drop caskets of dead people.

One other thing about cheerleaders that my above post reminds me of and that is that we need to bring back the guys on the yell squad. Sure, I know they aren't much to look at. But put one of those cone-shaped horn things up to their mouths and get the crowd going with some "DE-fense! (clap clap) stuff." Not to be sexist, but you need some guys to yell like they've got a pair. (Of lungs, of course, what did you think I was talking about.)

OK, interesting Creighton discussion. But, keepin' it real here. A lot of Creighton's success over the last few years can be attributed to one person. And that person isn't their coach. He's there another year but, let's face, it, they have some big shoes to fill when Doug McDermott leaves. And he won't be there at Creighton anymore when Leon Gilmore starts his college career. So, if Creighton's success over the last several years is an issue that would hold sway with him, then he better think carefully because the NCAA isn't giving Doug McDermott six seaons of eligibility the way they did with Grant Gibbs.

I was fine up until this point. Sellers came from HOFSTRA!! He wasnt at UCONN when you got him. If he had been that big of a commodity even in the slightest he would've gotten a better gig after being let go at UCONN. He was on his way down not on his way up.

DId Tai visit during the Creighton game? I ask because I was at that one and there were definitely drums and colored lights at that one. Truth be told, I thought that was pretty cool, although it went a bit too long. You might consider a rule against half shirts in the student section. In the same game, some dude had a cutoff with "Tom Osborne" written around his belly button. It was rather disturbing and probably not exactly the sort of tribute Tom would appreciate. As my kids would say, "It was just plain wrong." Tai did not visit during the Creighton game. Then they definitely did it more than just one game. I'm glad you got to the bottom of that, Creighton Fan. Now we can sleep easy at night.

DId Tai visit during the Creighton game? I ask because I was at that one and there were definitely drums and colored lights at that one. Truth be told, I thought that was pretty cool, although it went a bit too long. You might consider a rule against half shirts in the student section. In the same game, some dude had a cutoff with "Tom Osborne" written around his belly button. It was rather disturbing and probably not exactly the sort of tribute Tom would appreciate. As my kids would say, "It was just plain wrong."