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hhcmatt
hhcmatt

Stanford Robinson leaving Indiana. The Hoosiers are still over-committed by one scholarship. It's Spring-Creaning season.   http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/03/25/stanford-

GATA
GATA

Abraham was much better than nothing.

Minnesota_Husker
Minnesota_Husker

He misspelled Nebraska.....

hhcmatt

hhcmatt

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  On 4/19/2015 at 9:44 PM, Chuck Taylor said:

Didn't see this anywhere else: Marcus Foster to Creighton. Today's not a good day for Huskerdom.

 

 

That's why you keep tabs on the guys you almost landed. Big get for them.

Swan88

Swan88

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Foster is an interesting risk / reward get for the Jays -- he seems to have had kind of a Pitchford-esque two years, according to a Kansas St. news source:

"In his first season, Foster posted the best season of any K-State freshman since current NBA player Michael Beasley, leading the Wildcats to 20 wins and a NCAA Tournament appearance while averaging 15.5 points. . . .

Then everything went south.

As a sophomore, Foster's production dropped dramatically. His poor play led to poor body language, and Weber removed him from the starting lineup at the start of Big 12 play. He became a distraction at times, ultimatley earning a three-game suspension during a pivotal stretch in the schedule. He was arguably the most disappointing player in the conference. He finished the season as K-State's leading scorer, averaging 12.5 points, but much of that was due to a hot start as a three-point shooter. He was held scoreless in the final game of his K-State career, a Big 12 Tournament loss to TCU."

Norm Peterson

Norm Peterson

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I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them.  They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

 

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

49r

49r

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  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them.  They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

 

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

 

The consensus is he instantly turns them into a championship contender.  Huge get for the staff.

 

No mention of any character issues/potential risks involved with taking him on.

 

IOW, the same ol' myopia as always.

bleujay

bleujay

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  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them.  They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

 

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

 

There are reasons to believe him and HC Bruce Weber did not get along. At all. It's fine to compare the baggage of Foster and Biggs...but in reality Foster had zero problems in high school and zero problems his freshman year. It's not like we're signing Malek Harris. Last year, in terms of his disciplinary issues, was an aberration. And is it even a discussion concerning who is more talented between Biggs and Foster? Hate to bring it up but its a lot more acceptable to take a player like Marcus with some past issues if he's got a lot of talent. 

Any CU fan who claims all the kids we sign are angels is full of sh**. All of these players are kids who have some growing up to do, they do stupid things on occasion. As long as CU is trying to remain relevant in the world of men's CBB, the coaches will take chances on players. Is there some risk with Marcus, sure, but I think the potential reward is unbelievably worth it. If there's one thing I know about CU basketball, its that locker room problems are the last things us fans have to worry about (last time that was an issue was with Stinnet in 2010). Even losing all those games in a streak last year, there was no talk of hostility or finger pointing. The coaches do an excellent job emphasizing the concept of the team, instilling that camaraderie early on in the players' careers at CU.

 

edit: You cannot blame the fanbase for our excitement surrounding Marcus. We were so close to landing him out of high school, and he is the skilled, big, athletic guard we have coveted for so long now. I think you'd have to go back into the pre-modern era of college hoops to find a player as physically talented as Marcus who played for CU

colhusker

colhusker

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  On 4/19/2015 at 11:34 PM, 49r said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them.  They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

 

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

 

The consensus is he instantly turns them into a championship contender.  Huge get for the staff.

 

No mention of any character issues/potential risks involved with taking him on.

 

IOW, the same ol' myopia as always.

 

So we can just skip March Madness next year and just mail the trophy to Crayton?

49r

49r

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  On 4/20/2015 at 12:58 AM, colhusker said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:34 PM, 49r said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them.  They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

 

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

 

The consensus is he instantly turns them into a championship contender.  Huge get for the staff.

 

No mention of any character issues/potential risks involved with taking him on.

 

IOW, the same ol' myopia as always.

 

So we can just skip March Madness next year and just mail the trophy to Crayton?

 

 

Well, it'll be the 2017 tourney that they should make their big run.  Maybe only a conference championship next year.

Silverbacked1

Silverbacked1

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  On 4/20/2015 at 1:09 AM, 49r said:
  On 4/20/2015 at 12:58 AM, colhusker said:
  On 4/19/2015 at 11:34 PM, 49r said:
  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them. They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

The consensus is he instantly turns them into a championship contender. Huge get for the staff.

No mention of any character issues/potential risks involved with taking him on.

IOW, the same ol' myopia as always.

So we can just skip March Madness next year and just mail the trophy to Crayton?

Well, it'll be the 2017 tourney that they should make their big run. Maybe only a conference championship next year.

I heard his greatness will carry them to the final four just because he is sitting on the bench.
colhusker

colhusker

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  On 4/20/2015 at 1:14 AM, Silverbacked1 said:

 

  On 4/20/2015 at 1:09 AM, 49r said:

 

  On 4/20/2015 at 12:58 AM, colhusker said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:34 PM, 49r said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them. They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

The consensus is he instantly turns them into a championship contender. Huge get for the staff.

No mention of any character issues/potential risks involved with taking him on.

IOW, the same ol' myopia as always.

So we can just skip March Madness next year and just mail the trophy to Crayton?

Well, it'll be the 2017 tourney that they should make their big run. Maybe only a conference championship next year.

I heard his greatness will carry them to the final four just because he is sitting on the bench.

 

He can do this AND get the coaches beers during timeouts.

jason2486

jason2486

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  On 4/19/2015 at 11:41 PM, bleujay said:
  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them. They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

There are reasons to believe him and HC Bruce Weber did not get along. At all. It's fine to compare the baggage of Foster and Biggs...but in reality Foster had zero problems in high school and zero problems his freshman year. It's not like we're signing Malek Harris. Last year, in terms of his disciplinary issues, was an aberration. And is it even a discussion concerning who is more talented between Biggs and Foster? Hate to bring it up but its a lot more acceptable to take a player like Marcus with some past issues if he's got a lot of talent.

Any CU fan who claims all the kids we sign are angels is full of sh**. All of these players are kids who have some growing up to do, they do stupid things on occasion. As long as CU is trying to remain relevant in the world of men's CBB, the coaches will take chances on players. Is there some risk with Marcus, sure, but I think the potential reward is unbelievably worth it. If there's one thing I know about CU basketball, its that locker room problems are the last things us fans have to worry about (last time that was an issue was with Stinnet in 2010). Even losing all those games in a streak last year, there was no talk of hostility or finger pointing. The coaches do an excellent job emphasizing the concept of the team, instilling that camaraderie early on in the players' careers at CU.

edit: You cannot blame the fanbase for our excitement surrounding Marcus. We were so close to landing him out of high school, and he is the skilled, big, athletic guard we have coveted for so long now. I think you'd have to go back into the pre-modern era of college hoops to find a player as physically talented as Marcus who played for CU

I'd say Biggs is pretty damn talented. And to say Foster is a big guard is a tad bit of a stretch. 6'2" 200 lbs is not "Big".

bleujay

bleujay

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  On 4/20/2015 at 4:09 AM, jason2486 said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:41 PM, bleujay said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them. They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

There are reasons to believe him and HC Bruce Weber did not get along. At all. It's fine to compare the baggage of Foster and Biggs...but in reality Foster had zero problems in high school and zero problems his freshman year. It's not like we're signing Malek Harris. Last year, in terms of his disciplinary issues, was an aberration. And is it even a discussion concerning who is more talented between Biggs and Foster? Hate to bring it up but its a lot more acceptable to take a player like Marcus with some past issues if he's got a lot of talent.

Any CU fan who claims all the kids we sign are angels is full of sh**. All of these players are kids who have some growing up to do, they do stupid things on occasion. As long as CU is trying to remain relevant in the world of men's CBB, the coaches will take chances on players. Is there some risk with Marcus, sure, but I think the potential reward is unbelievably worth it. If there's one thing I know about CU basketball, its that locker room problems are the last things us fans have to worry about (last time that was an issue was with Stinnet in 2010). Even losing all those games in a streak last year, there was no talk of hostility or finger pointing. The coaches do an excellent job emphasizing the concept of the team, instilling that camaraderie early on in the players' careers at CU.

edit: You cannot blame the fanbase for our excitement surrounding Marcus. We were so close to landing him out of high school, and he is the skilled, big, athletic guard we have coveted for so long now. I think you'd have to go back into the pre-modern era of college hoops to find a player as physically talented as Marcus who played for CU

I'd say Biggs is pretty damn talented. And to say Foster is a big guard is a tad bit of a stretch. 6'2" 200 lbs is not "Big".

 

 

Its not big for a prototypical SG, but that's not what Marcus is. He's a combo who makes plays with the ball in his hands. If the opposing team d's him up with a typically sized point, that's where his size will really come into play.

hhcmatt

hhcmatt

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  On 4/19/2015 at 11:34 PM, 49r said:

 Huge get for the staff.

 

Foster is one of the most proficient transfers available.

No doubt we'd be pretty excited if we landed him.

49r

49r

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  On 4/20/2015 at 1:03 PM, hhcdimes said:

 

  On 4/19/2015 at 11:34 PM, 49r said:

 Huge get for the staff.

 

Foster is one of the most proficient transfers available.

No doubt we'd be pretty excited if we landed him.

 

 

He's a talented player to be sure, he made a huge difference for K-State when he was not suspended.  You're probably right, but there should also be more than just a little worry about the risk you'd be taking by bringing him in.

 

Personally, I'm not so sure the reward is worth the risk with this guy.

49r

49r

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  On 4/19/2015 at 11:14 PM, Norm Peterson said:

I'm curious how the jays fans might be reacting over there at the BJU to this horrifying news for them.  They would never have a guy on their team like Deverell Biggs because they always go for high-character kids and would never sell out their convictions for a recruit with doubtful character.

 

Yet ... that appears to be exactly what they've done.

 

Norm, hopefully this clears things up for you a little (h/t to goEMAW.com for finding this):

 

 

Church will keep him off the weed, so no worries.  All is good up in Omaha!

49r

49r

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  On 4/20/2015 at 2:42 PM, nebrasketball10 said:

"Personally, I'm not so sure the reward is worth the risk with this guy."

We'd be singing a different tune if he were coming here.

 

Believe me, it's not sour grapes at all.  He's a great talent and has the potential for great things.  Yes we would be pretty excited to have him.  I agree.  He very well may take Creighton to the promised land.

 

He may also never play a game there.

 

He has had some pretty serious transgressions at KSU and didn't seem to be able keep himself out of trouble in Manhattan.  In KC, there has been plenty of talk about him, most of it not good over the last year.  It reminds me a lot of Jaron Boone's senior year actually.  Weed has the ability to be pretty destructive for a guy's career (not always, but it happens) and it's kind of sad to see it happen.

 

So, yes, my position stands.  I'm not convinced he's worth the risk, I PERSONALLY would have the same concerns if he was a Husker right now.

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