uneblinstu's Post Game Chatter: ed 7, vol 15 - Rutgers

[Norm Peterson]

So, after last night, is the starting lineup going to change at all?

[hhctony]

Good to see us back with Leslee and Moses at least in the rotation. They clearly aren't all the way back, though I'd take the 5-5 night from Moses the rest of the season. And, man, if we can get Benny in that 7-10 point range nightly, this will be a tough team to beat. In fact, we can beat any team in the league save Wisconsin with this team. It will be interesting to see what we can do the rest of the year. I like our chances moving forward.

[49r]

Did anyone see what Tarin did at the end of the first half to earn Coach Miles' displeasure?  Coach rode Tarin hard all the way to the tunnel.   I was guilty of texting while (not) watching, so I missed the last couple of sequences.

 

Just went back and re-watched the end of the half on ESPN3 and what happened was Tarin was dribbling the ball up the court against the Rutgers press.  He got just across the half court line, Rutgers triple teamed him so he jumped and threw the ball to Shavon, missed completely and turned the ball over.  Seems to me that is just one of those "teaching" moments.  Coach probably was just telling him he needed to go strong to the hoop and score there or at least stay on his feet and not turn the ball over.

[hhctony]

So, after last night, is the starting lineup going to change at all?

 

I don't think so, Norm. Do you see changes needed? I like the rotation we have right now. It seems as though guys understand their role. If we can get Benny about five looks at 3 per game and he can make two and we can get him a 7-10 point scorer and we can get 10-12 points from the bench this team is a tough match up in the Big Ten.

[huskerbaseball13]

Watched the game on TV...for how cold it was and being a late game on a Thursday night I was impressed by the crowd.  It looked packed and relatively loud. 

[GATA]

I hope Petteway finds his FT stroke. Sure, he's an inefficient volume shooter, but you can make up for it by getting to the line and knocking them down. He gets to the line 6.6 times a game, but is shooting only 67 percent from the stripe. Last year he shot 82 percent. That's basically a point per game difference.

[Norm Peterson]

 

So, after last night, is the starting lineup going to change at all?

 

I don't think so, Norm. Do you see changes needed? I like the rotation we have right now. It seems as though guys understand their role. If we can get Benny about five looks at 3 per game and he can make two and we can get him a 7-10 point scorer and we can get 10-12 points from the bench this team is a tough match up in the Big Ten.

 

I just look at the lines from Moses and Leslee compared to David Rivers' line.  David had 4 points, 4 fouls and 2 boards in 21 minutes.  Moses had 5 points, 3 boards and 2 fouls in 13 minutes. 

 

Moses was on the verge of starting before he got hurt.  Who's spot in the lineup would he take?

 

We were soft to start the game, according to Coach Miles.  What personnel packages would give you a better shot at reversing that?

 

A part of me thinks Walt is better when someone else is playing the role of holding down the low post.

 

I can think of several reasons why we might be better with Walt at the 4 and Moses at the 5 to start.  Not saying it'll happen but I think you'd have to consider it if you're Tim Miles.

[Huskerpapa]

...forgot earlier, but I also wanted to comment on the high-low play that was ran when Leslee and Moses were on the floor together.  That has been missing...and quite frankly I am unsure why...but it was pretty to see last night.

[Huskerpapa]

...and with Moses and Leslee back, we will see Walter playing a bit more 4.  Walts minutes will have some sort of split between the 4 and 5 positions.  It will be interesting to see how that affects his defense.  Instead of  bodying up on the opposing post player, he will be able to be in more of a help position...perhaps that means more blocks, less fouls and a few more dunks on run outs.

[Nighthawk]

Off the wall question since I was at the game and didn't watch it on TV.  I had a friend post of facebook that when the Football coach was being interviewed they spent almost 15 minutes doing the interview and didn't talk about the actual game being played at the time. I'm guessing she was exaggerating...but what was the deal? They showed him on the screen and it got a bit of a reaction (guessing this is as close to him appearing at the basketball games as we are going to get).

[hhctony]

 

 

So, after last night, is the starting lineup going to change at all?

 

I don't think so, Norm. Do you see changes needed? I like the rotation we have right now. It seems as though guys understand their role. If we can get Benny about five looks at 3 per game and he can make two and we can get him a 7-10 point scorer and we can get 10-12 points from the bench this team is a tough match up in the Big Ten.

 

I just look at the lines from Moses and Leslee compared to David Rivers' line.  David had 4 points, 4 fouls and 2 boards in 21 minutes.  Moses had 5 points, 3 boards and 2 fouls in 13 minutes. 

 

Moses was on the verge of starting before he got hurt.  Who's spot in the lineup would he take?

 

We were soft to start the game, according to Coach Miles.  What personnel packages would give you a better shot at reversing that?

 

A part of me thinks Walt is better when someone else is playing the role of holding down the low post.

 

I can think of several reasons why we might be better with Walt at the 4 and Moses at the 5 to start.  Not saying it'll happen but I think you'd have to consider it if you're Tim Miles.

 

 

Good point. I can see Moses and David switching spots so to speak. I really think what you'll end up seeing is Moses and David, hoepfully, each getting about 18-20 minutes and Leslee working his way back slowly as well. As many posters have said as well, I like when Moses and Leslee are on the floor at the same time as well. David, too, seems like he might relish the role of 'spark guy' as well. But, he's started plenty of games, too. You know, he's down to the end. I hope his last 15 or so games are really good for us. He's been very under appreciated at Nebraska. A quiet, hard working kid.

[Norm Peterson]

I like David.  Always have. I wholeheartedly agree with you that he's been under-appreciated.  But sentiment isn't a reason to start a guy, except on senior night. 

 

I think he can still play a role but his minutes are going to take a hit with the return of Leslee and Moses.  And with what Moses was bringing to the table last night and in the games just before he got hurt, I'd have to wonder if David's position in the starting rotation might not be in jeopardy.

 

In his last 4 outings, Moses has averaged 4.5 points and 4 rebounds in 16.5 minutes of play.  And he's not soft.

 

I think you have to consider starting him at the 5, sliding Walt to the 4, and rotating in Leslee and David.

[hhcmatt]

We will probably see starting lineups that vary based on how it matches up with our opponent in the future due to the increased depth.

[hhctony]

I like David.  Always have. I wholeheartedly agree with you that he's been under-appreciated.  But sentiment isn't a reason to start a guy, except on senior night. 

 

I think he can still play a role but his minutes are going to take a hit with the return of Leslee and Moses.  And with what Moses was bringing to the table last night and in the games just before he got hurt, I'd have to wonder if David's position in the starting rotation might not be in jeopardy.

 

In his last 4 outings, Moses has averaged 4.5 points and 4 rebounds in 16.5 minutes of play.  And he's not soft.

 

I think you have to consider starting him at the 5, sliding Walt to the 4, and rotating in Leslee and David.

 

The great think about David, Norm, is doesn't care if he starts or not. I don't think any of these guys do. It's refreshing that we have a group of we-first players. Always so important in basketball. David might actually appreciate his minutes going down, because he can bring more energy. Frankly, he's not a 30 minute/game guy. You know the other thing we got with these bigs last night, too? Five assists from TP. He had 35 our first 14 games, total. When teams have to defend his pass AND his shot, it can make him great.

[HuskerCager]

Watched the game on TV...for how cold it was and being a late game on a Thursday night I was impressed by the crowd.  It looked packed and relatively loud. 

It was not packed.  Actual attendance per box score says 13,136, which I think is generous from my 300-level view.  But as you pointed out, not bad for a late night weeknight game against a potential conference cellar dweller.

[Silverbacked1]

My son made an observation last night, did anybody else notice that the guys weren't wearing as much stuff last night?

Head bands, shooting sleeves, tights. Only seemed to be things that were needed by the player. No big deal just something he commented on.

[Nighthawk]

My son made an observation last night, did anybody else notice that the guys weren't wearing as much stuff last night?

Head bands, shooting sleeves, tights. Only seemed to be things that were needed by the player. No big deal just something he commented on.

No I didn't.  lol..as long as they are wearing their shirts, shorts and shoes it's all good.

[bball23]

 

Watched the game on TV...for how cold it was and being a late game on a Thursday night I was impressed by the crowd.  It looked packed and relatively loud. 

It was not packed.  Actual attendance per box score says 13,136, which I think is generous from my 300-level view.  But as you pointed out, not bad for a late night weeknight game against a potential conference cellar dweller.

 

Ronenthal tweeted again during the game that the 13,136 was incorrect and it was a little over 11,000.  Still pretty darn good for an 8 pm start vs Rutgers during mid-week on a cold night.  As a season ticket holder for the past 15 seasons I think back about the Devaney and how if we got 7-8,000 a game I thought we had a good draw.  Now we get over 11,000 and some are a bit dissapointed.  This is a GOOD thing though as I like that we are starting to expect more from our program.

[ajb5856]

Watched the game on TV...for how cold it was and being a late game on a Thursday night I was impressed by the crowd. It looked packed and relatively loud.

It was not packed. Actual attendance per box score says 13,136, which I think is generous from my 300-level view. But as you pointed out, not bad for a late night weeknight game against a potential conference cellar dweller.

Ronenthal tweeted again during the game that the 13,136 was incorrect and it was a little over 11,000. Still pretty darn good for an 8 pm start vs Rutgers during mid-week on a cold night. As a season ticket holder for the past 15 seasons I think back about the Devaney and how if we got 7-8,000 a game I thought we had a good draw. Now we get over 11,000 and some are a bit dissapointed. This is a GOOD thing though as I like that we are starting to expect more from our program.

Does anyone know where they are getting these numbers if they aren't going off of scanned tickets? Just making it up? Is Rosenthals 11,000 a guess? I know it wasn't packed last night, but I have a very hard time believing 5,000 people were missing. I mean, I recognized the open seats, but there's no way there were more than 500 open seats in the lower bowl. Then the upper sections had a few more missing, but no way 5,000 were gone.

[HuskerActuary]

 

 

 

Watched the game on TV...for how cold it was and being a late game on a Thursday night I was impressed by the crowd. It looked packed and relatively loud.

It was not packed. Actual attendance per box score says 13,136, which I think is generous from my 300-level view. But as you pointed out, not bad for a late night weeknight game against a potential conference cellar dweller.

Ronenthal tweeted again during the game that the 13,136 was incorrect and it was a little over 11,000. Still pretty darn good for an 8 pm start vs Rutgers during mid-week on a cold night. As a season ticket holder for the past 15 seasons I think back about the Devaney and how if we got 7-8,000 a game I thought we had a good draw. Now we get over 11,000 and some are a bit dissapointed. This is a GOOD thing though as I like that we are starting to expect more from our program.

Does anyone know where they are getting these numbers if they aren't going off of scanned tickets? Just making it up? Is Rosenthals 11,000 a guess? I know it wasn't packed last night, but I have a very hard time believing 5,000 people were missing. I mean, I recognized the open seats, but there's no way there were more than 500 open seats in the lower bowl. Then the upper sections had a few more missing, but no way 5,000 were gone.

 

Unless bball23 can prove differently, I'm pretty sure that Rosenthal tweeted an initial number of 14,xxx and then corrected it to the 13,136. I am nearly certain that there were more than 11,000 as well.

[HuskerCager]

Does anyone know where they are getting these numbers if they aren't going off of scanned tickets? Just making it up? Is Rosenthals 11,000 a guess? I know it wasn't packed last night, but I have a very hard time believing 5,000 people were missing. I mean, I recognized the open seats, but there's no way there were more than 500 open seats in the lower bowl. Then the upper sections had a few more missing, but no way 5,000 were gone.

 

I would assume actual attendance is off of scanned tickets.  I think if you are sitting at the 100 level, the building appears more full just because of the angle you can view other seats.  But if you are in the 300 level like myself, you look around the other 300 level seats and it can look a little sparse at times.

My guess is that no more than 60% of the 300-level seats were filled last night.  I agree with Rosenthal's estimate.  There just can't be 2,000 people in the bathrooms at any given time.  Unless of course they had food poisoning issues in the concession stands.

[hhcmatt]

 

 

 

Watched the game on TV...for how cold it was and being a late game on a Thursday night I was impressed by the crowd. It looked packed and relatively loud.

It was not packed. Actual attendance per box score says 13,136, which I think is generous from my 300-level view. But as you pointed out, not bad for a late night weeknight game against a potential conference cellar dweller.

Ronenthal tweeted again during the game that the 13,136 was incorrect and it was a little over 11,000. Still pretty darn good for an 8 pm start vs Rutgers during mid-week on a cold night. As a season ticket holder for the past 15 seasons I think back about the Devaney and how if we got 7-8,000 a game I thought we had a good draw. Now we get over 11,000 and some are a bit dissapointed. This is a GOOD thing though as I like that we are starting to expect more from our program.

Does anyone know where they are getting these numbers if they aren't going off of scanned tickets? Just making it up? Is Rosenthals 11,000 a guess? I know it wasn't packed last night, but I have a very hard time believing 5,000 people were missing. I mean, I recognized the open seats, but there's no way there were more than 500 open seats in the lower bowl. Then the upper sections had a few more missing, but no way 5,000 were gone.

 

 

If you look at the posted stat sheet it states reported and actual attendances and noted that 13k+ were there last night. It's possible that was a mistake and where BR's original number would have come from

[ajb5856]

Watched the game on TV...for how cold it was and being a late game on a Thursday night I was impressed by the crowd. It looked packed and relatively loud.

It was not packed. Actual attendance per box score says 13,136, which I think is generous from my 300-level view. But as you pointed out, not bad for a late night weeknight game against a potential conference cellar dweller.

Ronenthal tweeted again during the game that the 13,136 was incorrect and it was a little over 11,000. Still pretty darn good for an 8 pm start vs Rutgers during mid-week on a cold night. As a season ticket holder for the past 15 seasons I think back about the Devaney and how if we got 7-8,000 a game I thought we had a good draw. Now we get over 11,000 and some are a bit dissapointed. This is a GOOD thing though as I like that we are starting to expect more from our program.

Does anyone know where they are getting these numbers if they aren't going off of scanned tickets? Just making it up? Is Rosenthals 11,000 a guess? I know it wasn't packed last night, but I have a very hard time believing 5,000 people were missing. I mean, I recognized the open seats, but there's no way there were more than 500 open seats in the lower bowl. Then the upper sections had a few more missing, but no way 5,000 were gone.

If you look at the posted stat sheet it states reported and actual attendances and noted that 13k+ were there last night. It's possible that was a mistake and where BR's original number would have come from

It shouldn't be so hard to report a correct number based on scanned tickets.

[hhcmatt]

[bobcat402]