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You gotta love having a coach who doesn't have hair on his legs.  It means he has a lot of growth potential as a program builder.

 

The thing I like the best about TM is this following analogy to the race car driver circuit...and I am not an auto racing fan...

 

Miles is like a driver that has come up through the ranks, while winning at each level as he advances.

Now, he is finally at the NASCAR level and he has been handed the keys to a souped up Ferrari at a school that has never won (yet they are in a great league and have facilities second to none).

Since TM is a Midwest kid, I believe there is a great chance he would rather stay here and make history while close to his family...rather than chasing the blue-bloods (KU, UNC, DU, etc.) where he is the next in line.

I am counting on TM being my coach until I die...or until he retires...

and if he is as successful as I believe he will be...I should live so long!

  • 9 years later...
Posted

I don't think Chubick was ever sold on Miles from the start.  He was on here posting after they announced his hire I remember and he wasn't the biggest fan even then.

 

But the Arop faux pas was one of Miles' biggest fumbles at NU, no doubt.

Posted

I get it.  It’s a home state guy who panned out.  But this sounds like a big ol nothing burger.  Good on coach for sticking up for his player as I expect all coaches would, but honestly it just sounds like typical recruiting stuff that probably happens more than we know.  Coaches cool on guys on the recruiting trail… even guys who are committed or semi-committed.  It happens.

Posted
39 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

I get it.  It’s a home state guy who panned out.  But this sounds like a big ol nothing burger.  Good on coach for sticking up for his player as I expect all coaches would, but honestly it just sounds like typical recruiting stuff that probably happens more than we know.  Coaches cool on guys on the recruiting trail… even guys who are committed or semi-committed.  It happens.

 

Aguek's career numbers at SDSU don't say "panned out" to me, actually. He started out averaging 14.6 minutes and 3.1 points, while shooting  20% from 3 and 61.3% from the line; five years later, he's averaging 16.0 minutes and 4.5 points on 25% from 3 and 66.7% from the line. Let me ask this: if he'd been a portal prospect after the 21-22 season, about what level of team do you all think he'd have received interest from?

 

2018-19
2019-20
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
Career  
 
GP GS MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
31 0 14.6 1.2-2.7 44.6 0.1-0.5 20.0 0.6-1.0 61.3 1.1 1.6 2.7 1.0 0.6 0.5 1.5 0.8 3.1
22 0 10.0 1.5-2.9 50.0 0.0-0.3 0.0 0.2-0.4 62.5 1.2 1.1 2.3 0.4 0.2 0.4 1.0 0.6 3.1
20 7 13.9 1.7-3.4 48.5 0.1-0.7 15.4 0.8-1.6 48.4 1.5 0.8 2.3 0.7 0.2 0.7 2.3 0.9 4.2
25 0 15.0 1.5-3.2 45.7 0.1-0.4 33.3 0.4-1.0 44.0 1.6 1.7 3.3 0.5 0.3 1.0 1.4 0.8 3.5
37 1 16.0 2.0-3.4 57.9 0.0-0.1 25.0 0.5-0.8 66.7 1.2 1.7 2.9 0.8 0.6 0.6 1.9 0.8 4.5
135 8 14.2 1.6-3.1 50.2 0.1-0.3 19.1 0.5-0.9 56.0 1.3 1.4 2.7 0.7 0.4 0.6 1.6 0.8 3.7
Posted
48 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Bruce Chubick basically says Tim Miles can't judge talent; tried to back out of an offer when he got cold feet for no good reason; tried to farm him out to UNO when he got cold feet; and if Aguek was good enough for a national runner-up, he was good enough for Nebraska.

 

In fairness ...

 

1. Bruce leaves out the fact Aguek lost a year of development due to a broken leg injury his junior year (after we'd offered);

2. Bruce leaves out that Miles suggested Aguek try a year in prep school (which is really what pissed Bruce's dad off and that was well-documented);

3. Obviously the Arops didn't think Tim Miles was a slimey deal breaker because his younger brother became a Husker after all of the above went down; and

4. Was Aguek really that good for the national runners up? Really? Because I just looked up his senior year stats on that national runner up team and in his 5th year of college basketball, he averaged 16 minutes and 4.5 points.

 

So, Bruce, thanks for blocking Alonzo Jamison's shot in that KU game, but ...


Totally agree with this but I do have to say Aquek was a key piece of their final four team even though his stats were nothing special.. Perfect role player on that team and a GREAT kid too.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Aguek's career numbers at SDSU don't say "panned out" to me, actually. He started out averaging 14.6 minutes and 3.1 points, while shooting  20% from 3 and 61.3% from the line; five years later, he's averaging 16.0 minutes and 4.5 points on 25% from 3 and 66.7% from the line. Let me ask this: if he'd been a portal prospect after the 21-22 season, about what level of team do you all think he'd have received interest from?

 

2018-19
2019-20
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
Career  
 
GP GS MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
31 0 14.6 1.2-2.7 44.6 0.1-0.5 20.0 0.6-1.0 61.3 1.1 1.6 2.7 1.0 0.6 0.5 1.5 0.8 3.1
22 0 10.0 1.5-2.9 50.0 0.0-0.3 0.0 0.2-0.4 62.5 1.2 1.1 2.3 0.4 0.2 0.4 1.0 0.6 3.1
20 7 13.9 1.7-3.4 48.5 0.1-0.7 15.4 0.8-1.6 48.4 1.5 0.8 2.3 0.7 0.2 0.7 2.3 0.9 4.2
25 0 15.0 1.5-3.2 45.7 0.1-0.4 33.3 0.4-1.0 44.0 1.6 1.7 3.3 0.5 0.3 1.0 1.4 0.8 3.5
37 1 16.0 2.0-3.4 57.9 0.0-0.1 25.0 0.5-0.8 66.7 1.2 1.7 2.9 0.8 0.6 0.6 1.9 0.8 4.5
135 8 14.2 1.6-3.1 50.2 0.1-0.3 19.1 0.5-0.9 56.0 1.3 1.4 2.7 0.7 0.4 0.6 1.6 0.8 3.7


This is probably true.  I was more saying Bruce’s big argument at the end was insinuating that Arop panned out because he played for a Final 4 team and that “wasn’t good enough for Nebraska.”

 

No quelms with either Bruce or Tim for this decision, honestly.  Just would have been nice for it to be left at mutually agreeing to part ways.  Because that’s basically what it was it sounds like.

Posted
45 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

Nothing new here.  At this point after the career that Arop had it's nice to not really need to care one way or the other.


Arops career also overlaps with Miles departure and Fred’s first few seasons.  Hard to imagine he saves Miles job as a freshman or leads us to glory Fred’s first few years either. That’s IF he doesn’t transfer when Miles is fired.

Posted
8 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Aguek's career numbers at SDSU don't say "panned out" to me, actually. He started out averaging 14.6 minutes and 3.1 points, while shooting  20% from 3 and 61.3% from the line; five years later, he's averaging 16.0 minutes and 4.5 points on 25% from 3 and 66.7% from the line. Let me ask this: if he'd been a portal prospect after the 21-22 season, about what level of team do you all think he'd have received interest from?

 

2018-19
2019-20
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
Career  
 
GP GS MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
31 0 14.6 1.2-2.7 44.6 0.1-0.5 20.0 0.6-1.0 61.3 1.1 1.6 2.7 1.0 0.6 0.5 1.5 0.8 3.1
22 0 10.0 1.5-2.9 50.0 0.0-0.3 0.0 0.2-0.4 62.5 1.2 1.1 2.3 0.4 0.2 0.4 1.0 0.6 3.1
20 7 13.9 1.7-3.4 48.5 0.1-0.7 15.4 0.8-1.6 48.4 1.5 0.8 2.3 0.7 0.2 0.7 2.3 0.9 4.2
25 0 15.0 1.5-3.2 45.7 0.1-0.4 33.3 0.4-1.0 44.0 1.6 1.7 3.3 0.5 0.3 1.0 1.4 0.8 3.5
37 1 16.0 2.0-3.4 57.9 0.0-0.1 25.0 0.5-0.8 66.7 1.2 1.7 2.9 0.8 0.6 0.6 1.9 0.8 4.5
135 8 14.2 1.6-3.1 50.2 0.1-0.3 19.1 0.5-0.9 56.0 1.3 1.4 2.7 0.7 0.4 0.6 1.6 0.8 3.7

I think the timing and situation definitely matters. He was a great fit for SDSU. A physically gifted player for a good team emphasizing toughness & athleticism that can guard multiple positions. I think at that point we needed a different type of player. We needed potential offensive difference makers to develop. Probably worked out as well as possible for him.  He’d be a great get for the current team with his defense, rebounding, and toughness to go with a group that can score. 

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