Norm Peterson Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 Here are the players (listed in reverse order of size). Assign them minutes as you see fit, either how many you think they should get or how many you think they will get. Allocate the minutes. Keep in mind that in a regulation-length game, you have 200 minutes to allocate among the players. So, who gets them? Sergej Vucetic Walter Pitchford Leslee Smith Shavon Shields David Rivers Nick Fuller Terran Petteway Nathan Hawkins Tai Webster Ray Gallegos Deverell "D Nasty" Biggs Benny Parker Quote
nustudent Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 Sergej Vucetic---5 Walter Pitchford---28 Leslee Smith----22 Shavon Shields----28 David Rivers---10 Nick Fuller----6 Terran Petteway----26 Nathan Hawkins---4 Tai Webster-----25 Ray Gallegos-----30 Deverell "D Nasty" Biggs----13 Benny Parker----3 Quote
kldm64 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 I'm confused on the 200 minutes? If a game is only 40 minutes, why are we allocating 200 minutes. What am I missing? Quote
ShortDust Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 I'm confused on the 200 minutes? If a game is only 40 minutes, why are we allocating 200 minutes. What am I missing? 5 players x 40 mins gets you the 200. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Posted October 2, 2013 I'm confused on the 200 minutes? If a game is only 40 minutes, why are we allocating 200 minutes. What am I missing? You're not planning on playing them one player at a time are you? Have you been taking coaching lessons from Kidney? Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Posted October 2, 2013 Sergej Vucetic 3 Walter Pitchford 24 Leslee Smith 19 Shavon Shields 27 David Rivers 10 Nick Fuller 14 Terran Petteway 24 Nathan Hawkins 8 Tai Webster 27 Ray Gallegos 27 Deverell Biggs 14 Benny Parker 3 Quote
cipsucks Posted October 2, 2013 Report Posted October 2, 2013 I'm confused on the 200 minutes? If a game is only 40 minutes, why are we allocating 200 minutes. What am I missing? You're not planning on playing them one player at a time are you? Have you been taking coaching lessons from Kidney? Speaking of the world's greatest coach, there was a possible Kidney sighting in Lincoln this past weekend.... Quote
throwback Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 Sergej Vucetic - 0 Walter Pitchford - 25 Leslee Smith - 20 Shavon Shields - 30 David Rivers - 10 Nick Fuller - 15 Terran Petteway - 30 Nathan Hawkins - 0 Tai Webster - 30 Ray Gallegos - 30 Deverell "D Nasty" Biggs - 10 Benny Parker - 0 Going by 5s is easier to add I think we'll be down to 9 players getting regular minutes by conference play, so I guess that's where I'm at Norm Peterson 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Posted October 3, 2013 Sergej Vucetic - 0 Walter Pitchford - 25 Leslee Smith - 20 Shavon Shields - 30 David Rivers - 10 Nick Fuller - 15 Terran Petteway - 30 Nathan Hawkins - 0 Tai Webster - 30 Ray Gallegos - 30 Deverell "D Nasty" Biggs - 10 Benny Parker - 0 Going by 5s is easier to add I think we'll be down to 9 players getting regular minutes by conference play, so I guess that's where I'm at Throwback, this is weird, but your numbers of minutes assigned to the various players adds up to exactly 200. Exactly. And -- this is really freaky deaky -- if you multiply the number of positions on the floor for a team by the number of minutes in a game, it adds up to -- you guessed it -- 200. Weird, huh? (Just gotta flip you some good-natured crap, kldm. ) Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Posted October 3, 2013 On a serious note, throwback, if your numbers end up being correct, it would mean that juniors and seniors would account for only 35% of the team's minutes this year. That's a young team. And it's a team that pretty much everyone who follows the program thinks will be the best team we've fielded since probably the '10-'11 season. Let that sink in a bit. If SENIORS alone accounted for only 35% of the minutes, we'd consider it a young team. But you're predicting -- as is pretty much everyone else -- that our JUNIORS AND SENIORS will account for ony about a third of the minutes. Heck, next year, assuming no unanticipated roster turnover, we'll still be young. And we should be even better than this year. Given that, if this group can't win an NCAA tourney game by the time Shavon is a senior (and hopefully at least a year before that) then, crap, I don't even want to finish that thought. Edited to add: My prediction would indicate that juniors and seniors would account for 36.5% of minutes. nustudent's prediction would be 40%. Quote
Huskerpapa Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 I'm confused on the 200 minutes? If a game is only 40 minutes, why are we allocating 200 minutes. What am I missing? You're not planning on playing them one player at a time are you? Have you been taking coaching lessons from Kidney? Speaking of the world's greatest coach, there was a possible Kidney sighting in Lincoln this past weekend.... I went to 4:00 mass at St. Mary's Saturday...thank goodness I missed this display. Quote
hugh42 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 Thanks Norm for the thread title and also for not using the word 'memory'. I have to admit that I had put some numbers together a couple of months ago after it was apparent that our roster was set for the upcoming year. After reading the reports from the scrimmage, I've tweaked the numbers slightly, but also included points per game. Can't wait for the season to start and to see the guys in person. NAME MINUTES POINTS Biggs 16 6 Fuller 14 5 Gallegos 24 9 Hawkins 8 3 Parker 4 1 Petteway 22 8 Pitchford 24 10 Rivers 18 5 Shields 24 10 Smith 18 6 Vucetic 4 1 Webster 24 8 Totals 200 72 Norm Peterson 1 Quote
lang Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 Sergej Vucetic 3 Walter Pitchford 24 Leslee Smith 19 Shavon Shields 27 David Rivers 10 Nick Fuller 14 Terran Petteway 24 Nathan Hawkins 8 Tai Webster 27 Ray Gallegos 27 Deverell Biggs 14 Benny Parker 3 Norm, a bit surprised you have Rivers for only 10 a game in light of discussion a week or so ago ? Quote
throwback Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 On a serious note, throwback, if your numbers end up being correct, it would mean that juniors and seniors would account for only 35% of the team's minutes this year. That's a young team. And it's a team that pretty much everyone who follows the program thinks will be the best team we've fielded since probably the '10-'11 season. Let that sink in a bit. If SENIORS alone accounted for only 35% of the minutes, we'd consider it a young team. But you're predicting -- as is pretty much everyone else -- that our JUNIORS AND SENIORS will account for ony about a third of the minutes. ... Good points - seeing this young team grow throughout this season will be fun, and that improvement has the extra advantage of building up the starting point for the team heading into next season as with nearly everyone back, there should be little drop off and worries about replacing a lot of graduated leadership, like we may experience early this season. This year we return about 60% of our minutes from last season, and next season we could return up to 85% of our minutes from this season, so next season could be special. I think we're two more big men November signees - especially one from Texas - from having a special 2014-15... Quote
hskr4life Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 NON CON Sergej Vucetic-- 5 Walter Pitchford-- 20 Leslee Smith-- 15 Shavon Shields-- 25 David Rivers-- 15 Nick Fuller--15 Terran Petteway-- 20 Nathan Hawkins-- 10 Tai Webster-- 20 Ray Gallegos-- 25 Deverell "D Nasty" Biggs-- 20 Benny Parker-- 10 CONFERENCE Sergej Vucetic-- 2 Walter Pitchford-- 20 Leslee Smith-- 20 Shavon Shields--25 David Rivers-- 17 Nick Fuller-- 18 Terran Petteway-- 20 Nathan Hawkins-- 7 Tai Webster-- 25 Ray Gallegos-- 25 Deverell "D Nasty" Biggs--13 Benny Parker-- 8 Quote
a0t0w0 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 Sergej Vucetic-2 Walter Pitchford- 25 Leslee Smith-18 Shavon Shields-30 David Rivers-15 Nick Fuller-10 Terran Petteway-15 Nathan Hawkins-25 Tai Webster-30 Ray Gallegos-25 Deverell "D Nasty" Biggs-5 Benny Parker- sorry bro, bro time with Peltz Quote
kldm64 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 I'm confused on the 200 minutes? If a game is only 40 minutes, why are we allocating 200 minutes. What am I missing? 5 players x 40 mins gets you the 200. This might be the reason I failed math class..... Norm Peterson 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted October 3, 2013 Report Posted October 3, 2013 Double Digit Minutes players under Tim Miles in Division I ** NEBRASKA ** 2013 - 8 [Record 15-18] (Mike Peltz only played 14 games) ** COLORADO ST ** 2012 - 8 [Record 20-12] 2011 - 8 [Record 19-13] 2010 - 10 [Record 16-16] (One player with only 20 games) 2009 - 12 [Record 9-22] (Only one player played all 31 games - Three players with less than 20 games) 2008 - 9 [Record 7-25] ** NORTH DAKOTA STATE ** 2007 - 9 [Record 20-8 ] (Two players with 20 or less games) 2006 - 7 [Record 16-12] (One players averaged 9 min/game) 2005 - **** ONLY PLAYED 8 DIV I GAMES - NDSU MAKING TRANSITION TO DIV I **** Barring injury the most players you should see playing double digits this year is 9. It's quite likely that this number will be 8 with a couple of guys near double digits. Max = 12 Min = 7 Mode = 8 Avg = 8.875 On a semi-related note, I think Deverell would have averaged a minimum of 25 minutes per game last year and really set himself up for major minutes this year. We would then have another scholarship for 2014. Norm Peterson 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Posted October 3, 2013 Sergej Vucetic 3 Walter Pitchford 24 Leslee Smith 19 Shavon Shields 27 David Rivers 10 Nick Fuller 14 Terran Petteway 24 Nathan Hawkins 8 Tai Webster 27 Ray Gallegos 27 Deverell Biggs 14 Benny Parker 3 Norm, a bit surprised you have Rivers for only 10 a game in light of discussion a week or so ago ? Yeah, I thought about that as I was putting my numbers together. Not playing in the scrimmage kind of put some other guys in the forefront and I probably assigned minutes based in part on seeing the other players and not seeing him. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Posted October 3, 2013 Excellent point, Dimes. Hindsight is 20/20 but that's a very good argument for why Biggs should have played last year. We were hoping he could spend 2 years playing with Akoy Agau and we all know how that turned out. Quote
Chuck Taylor Posted October 4, 2013 Report Posted October 4, 2013 My math skills aren't good enough to even attempt this exercise, but I'm surprised by the low numbers for Benny. He brings experience at point. I'd think Benny would get 10 minutes a game minimum, wouldn't be shocked if he starts in the opener. His shooting pct. will go up this year, and his turnovers will go down. Not saying he's the most talented of the PG candidates, but he's likely to be the steadiest. Cookie Belcher and Silverbacked1 1 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted October 4, 2013 Report Posted October 4, 2013 wouldn't be shocked if he starts in the opener. I think everyone else would be as he'd have to start over Tai Webster. He has Webster and Deverell in front of him and maybe even Peltz. Pettaway might also handle the ball. On the list of the three fastest guys, he wasn't on it. Unless he's gone from offensive liability to dead eye shooter in the offseason it's tough to see him getting many minutes. Quote
nustudent Posted October 4, 2013 Report Posted October 4, 2013 Peltz wasn't listed...but I think he plays over Parker Quote
ShortDust Posted October 4, 2013 Report Posted October 4, 2013 It's sad to say, but Benny may see the writing on the wall after this year. Quote
royalfan Posted October 4, 2013 Report Posted October 4, 2013 Pitchford and shields should be on the floor far more than most list IMO. Quote
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