So, is it possible that Leslee Smith ...

[Norm Peterson]

will be like a poor man's Chane Behanan?

 

Behanan is listed at 6'6" and 250#.  Sounds like someone I know of.  At least in terms of those measurables.  Behanan was a BEAST on the offensive glass last night and, more importantly, was able to convert offensive boards into put-back points.  VERY important, especially to the flow of the game last night.

 

Another of Louisville's "heros" if you will was another 6'6" guy who could light it up from beyond the arc.  That Hancock kid.  He's 6'6" and 200# per the Louisville roster.  Not quick.  Not particularly athletic.  But a dead-eye shooter.  Seems kinda similar to another kid I've heard of.  A certain Nick Fuller.

 

The final big piece of the Louisville puzzle was a lightening quick point guard who could basically break his defender down off the dribble and get into the lane at will.  Great change of direction and, once in the lane, had the ability to finish.  He's about 6'0" and a superb athlete.  Don't know if either Biggs or Webster will fill that particular bill. 

 

Siva is NOT a very good 3-pt shooter (at under 30% for the season and his career) so Webster might not yield much in that category.  Are either Biggs or Webster as quick?  Can either handle the ball as well?  Can they fill that role of breaking their defender down and getting into the lane even on a lower level than Siva?

 

You have to look at this roster Tim Miles is putting together and think to yourself, "we've got some of the elements here."

[uneblinstu]

I don't know if Biggs is as quick as Siva, but he's as quick as anyone we've had since Nate Johnson, at least.

[Norm Peterson]

I know there are a lot of coaches further down the coaching tree from Rick Pitino -- guys like that one dude at Florida and the other guy who used to be at Memphis and UMass before that and Kentucky now.  But is he on anyone else's coaching tree?  Who's further up the tree from him?  What pedigree did he have before Providence?  Anyone know?  Wikipedia maybe?

[uneblinstu]

I know there are a lot of coaches further down the coaching tree from Rick Pitino -- guys like that one dude at Florida and the other guy who used to be at Memphis and UMass before that and Kentucky now.  But is he on anyone else's coaching tree?  Who's further up the tree from him?  What pedigree did he have before Providence?  Anyone know?  Wikipedia maybe?

According to that Wiki thing, he was the first assistant Boeheim hired when he got the job at Syracuse.  He also was at Hawaii under Bruce O'Neal when they came under NCAA scrutiny.  He was later cleared.  He also was an assistant in the NBA under Hubie Brown.

[nustudent]

will be like a poor man's Chane Behanan?

 

Behanan is listed at 6'6" and 250#.  Sounds like someone I know of.  At least in terms of those measurables.  Behanan was a BEAST on the offensive glass last night and, more importantly, was able to convert offensive boards into put-back points.  VERY important, especially to the flow of the game last night.

 

Another of Louisville's "heros" if you will was another 6'6" guy who could light it up from beyond the arc.  That Hancock kid.  He's 6'6" and 200# per the Louisville roster.  Not quick.  Not particularly athletic.  But a dead-eye shooter.  Seems kinda similar to another kid I've heard of.  A certain Nick Fuller.

 

The final big piece of the Louisville puzzle was a lightening quick point guard who could basically break his defender down off the dribble and get into the lane at will.  Great change of direction and, once in the lane, had the ability to finish.  He's about 6'0" and a superb athlete.  Don't know if either Biggs or Webster will fill that particular bill. 

 

Siva is NOT a very good 3-pt shooter (at under 30% for the season and his career) so Webster might not yield much in that category.  Are either Biggs or Webster as quick?  Can either handle the ball as well?  Can they fill that role of breaking their defender down and getting into the lane even on a lower level than Siva?

 

You have to look at this roster Tim Miles is putting together and think to yourself, "we've got some of the elements here."

Key phrase is 'some of the elements'

 

A guy like Dieng was pretty crucial along the way for Ville too.   We have no one like him right now and that may be our biggest setback for next year.

[Norm Peterson]

Saw that, uneblinstu.  But where did it say he was cleared?  I saw it said he cleared himself in the late 80s when he dismissed the report and said, "I didn't make any mistakes, I don't care what anyone says."

 

But not a major pedigree before he took over at Providence.  A couple (bad) seasons at Hawaii as a grad assistant and then assistant coach (and then interim head guy) followed by a couple of seasons as an assistant to Boeheim at Syracuse before taking the head job at Boston U in 1978.

 

I'm struck by the comments of Tim Miles at the presser announcing him as our new head coach.  He basically said we took a chance on a guy with no pedigree.  Which is true.  He wasn't an assistant to Coach K or Boeheim or Pitino or anyone like that.  But neither did Pitino have much pedigree before he got his first head gig.

 

Upshot:  Pedigree might be helpful but obviously isn't absolutely necessary for someone to know what the heck they're doing as a coach.  And, while we don't have the athletes at this point, I'm wondering if Miles doesn't assemble a squad similarly to the way Pitino does it.

[Norm Peterson]

True, nustudent.  No Dieng.  We're clearly not at their level yet.  Not that we'll necessarily ever get there, either. 

 

I'm just looking at puzzle pieces and trying to visualize how they fit together. 

 

And I'm liking what I see right now.

 

I think we'll be able to compete with some people who won't expect us to.

[GATA]

Smith might have Behanan's measurables, but at least in the videos I've seen, he doesn't have Behanan's want-to. I hope Miles and Co. can beat that kind of attitude into Smith over the summer and fall because Nebraska will need the rebounding help.

[uneblinstu]

Saw that, uneblinstu.  But where did it say he was cleared?  I saw it said he cleared himself in the late 80s when he dismissed the report and said, "I didn't make any mistakes, I don't care what anyone says."

 

But not a major pedigree before he took over at Providence.  A couple (bad) seasons at Hawaii as a grad assistant and then assistant coach (and then interim head guy) followed by a couple of seasons as an assistant to Boeheim at Syracuse before taking the head job at Boston U in 1978.

 

I'm struck by the comments of Tim Miles at the presser announcing him as our new head coach.  He basically said we took a chance on a guy with no pedigree.  Which is true.  He wasn't an assistant to Coach K or Boeheim or Pitino or anyone like that.  But neither did Pitino have much pedigree before he got his first head gig.

 

Upshot:  Pedigree might be helpful but obviously isn't absolutely necessary for someone to know what the heck they're doing as a coach.  And, while we don't have the athletes at this point, I'm wondering if Miles doesn't assemble a squad similarly to the way Pitino does it.

 

Whoop, you're right.  I misread this: " In 1989, Pitino would dismiss the report, saying "I didn't make any mistakes, I don't care what anybody says."  As this: "In 1989, Pitino would be dismissed from the report, saying "I didn't make any mistakes, I don't care what anybody says."  

 

My bad.

[Norm Peterson]

Saw that, uneblinstu.  But where did it say he was cleared?  I saw it said he cleared himself in the late 80s when he dismissed the report and said, "I didn't make any mistakes, I don't care what anyone says."

 

But not a major pedigree before he took over at Providence.  A couple (bad) seasons at Hawaii as a grad assistant and then assistant coach (and then interim head guy) followed by a couple of seasons as an assistant to Boeheim at Syracuse before taking the head job at Boston U in 1978.

 

I'm struck by the comments of Tim Miles at the presser announcing him as our new head coach.  He basically said we took a chance on a guy with no pedigree.  Which is true.  He wasn't an assistant to Coach K or Boeheim or Pitino or anyone like that.  But neither did Pitino have much pedigree before he got his first head gig.

 

Upshot:  Pedigree might be helpful but obviously isn't absolutely necessary for someone to know what the heck they're doing as a coach.  And, while we don't have the athletes at this point, I'm wondering if Miles doesn't assemble a squad similarly to the way Pitino does it.

 

Whoop, you're right.  I misread this: " In 1989, Pitino would dismiss the report, saying "I didn't make any mistakes, I don't care what anybody says."  As this: "In 1989, Pitino would be dismissed from the report, saying "I didn't make any mistakes, I don't care what anybody says."  

 

My bad.

Ah, Rick.  Both humble and contrite.

[hskr4life]

Wow Norm... Did not think you could draw a red arrow with that post, but hey... maybe someone called a meeting and told posters that anything near Norm getting out of hand will get a down arrow.  Probably was promised a trip to the Bahamas or a few thousand dollars.

[Norm Peterson]

Wow Norm... Did not think you could draw a red arrow with that post, but hey... maybe someone called a meeting and told posters that anything near Norm getting out of hand will get a down arrow.  Probably was promised a trip to the Bahamas or a few thousand dollars.

Perhaps he just clicked a little too far to the right.  I've said things that were dumb and offensive that haven't drawn any red arrows, so maybe he just missed with the mouse.  Or maybe he just thinks it was a bad post.  I agree, though, kind of an odd one to smite, considering all the crap of mine he could have smitten and hasn't.

[hhcmatt]

But not a major pedigree before he took over at Providence.  A couple (bad) seasons at Hawaii as a grad assistant and then assistant coach (and then interim head guy) followed by a couple of seasons as an assistant to Boeheim at Syracuse before taking the head job at Boston U in 1978.

 

I'm struck by the comments of Tim Miles at the presser announcing him as our new head coach.  He basically said we took a chance on a guy with no pedigree.  Which is true.  He wasn't an assistant to Coach K or Boeheim or Pitino or anyone like that.  But neither did Pitino have much pedigree before he got his first head gig.

 

Upshot:  Pedigree might be helpful but obviously isn't absolutely necessary for someone to know what the heck they're doing as a coach.  And, while we don't have the athletes at this point, I'm wondering if Miles doesn't assemble a squad similarly to the way Pitino does it.

Don't confuse brevity with lack of pedigree.

Pitino was a star guard for UMass and then was an assistant coach for Jim Boeheim. That is pedigree.

Miles wasn't a star player and has never been the assistant for anyone of Division I note.

[KZRider]

Hope Smith is that guy but the player who TALKS (per this LJS article) like Behanan PLAYED is Petteway.

[Norm Peterson]

True, Dimes, but Syracuse wasn't what it is today when Pitino was an assistant for Boeheim either.  Nor was UMass the program we think of with Marcus Camby going to the Final 4.

 

Pitino graduated UMass in '74, spent a couple years at Hawaii, took the Syracuse assistant job in '76 and his first head job in '78.  That's not no pedigree but it ain't a lot of pedigree either.

[Norm Peterson]

Hope Smith is that guy but the player who TALKS (per this LJS article) like Behanan PLAYED is Petteway.

True.  If Petteway just has Behanen's strength.  That guy was just taking rebounds away from people.  And then going right back up in traffic.  Very determined kind of player.

[hhcmatt]

True, Dimes, but Syracuse wasn't what it is today when Pitino was an assistant for Boeheim either.  Nor was UMass the program we think of with Marcus Camby going to the Final 4.

 

Pitino graduated UMass in '74, spent a couple years at Hawaii, took the Syracuse assistant job in '76 and his first head job in '78.  That's not no pedigree but it ain't a lot of pedigree either.

 

Pedigree doesn't mean assisting for Coach K for 12 years.  

It means you were involved in Div I basketball as a player or an assistant.

 

Being a star at UMass got him the Hawaii gig which got him the Syracuse gig which got him the Boston job.

The brevity of his career as an assistant would be attributed to his drive and ability...the guy was a superstar in the making and his career has proven that.

 

Not playing college ball and coming out of Div II/NAIA is lack of pedigree.  

Drake Baranek has more coaching pedigree than Tim Miles will ever have.

 

Agree to disagree on this one.

[Handy Johnson]

Speaking of Kearney St., who was your All-time favorite Loper? Crale Bauer or Pete Anderson?

[Norm Peterson]

Speaking of Kearney St., who was your All-time favorite Loper? Crale Bauer or Pete Anderson?

Bart Kofoed.

[AuroranHusker]

Speaking of Kearney St., who was your All-time favorite Loper? Crale Bauer or Pete Anderson?

Bart Kofoed.

Tom Kropp!

[Dean Smith]

 

Speaking of Kearney St., who was your All-time favorite Loper? Crale Bauer or Pete Anderson?

Bart Kofoed.

Tom Kropp!

Coach Kropp could still beat player Kofoed when they were at K-State at the same time.

[nebrasketball10]

Shouldn't this be in the recruiting forum? Smith has not signed a LOI.

[hhcmatt]

Shouldn't this be in the recruiting forum? Smith has not signed a LOI.

 

jinx?  He's N, good enough for me

[Silverbacked1]

Kropp was a "Little All-American" with (I think) Jack Sickma, George Gervin and World Be Free.