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[HuscurAdam]

17 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Connor attempted 8 threes against North Florida. Skimming through Keisei's game logs, he attempted 8 or more threes at least 20 times in his Husker career. 

 

Fair point, but North Florida was also one of the worst defenses I have ever seen come through DONU. 

[HuscurAdam]

40 minutes ago, GhostOfJoeMcCray said:

 

Not really. Keisei averaged 6.3 three-point attempts per game last season and made 2.4. Connor is averaging 6.4 three-point attempts but making 2.9. 

 

 

 

 

Apples to oranges until Connor's sample includes a bunch of Big Ten opponents. 

[Huskerpapa]

19 minutes ago, HuscurAdam said:

 

Apples to oranges until Connor's sample includes a bunch of Big Ten opponents. 

Counter-point, to be fair, he has been through Big Ten opponents for two years.  

[HuscurAdam]

1 hour ago, Huskerpapa said:

Counter-point, to be fair, he has been through Big Ten opponents for two years.  

Yes, but unless I'm misinterpreting what was posted, the stats he cited are from this year and don't include any Big Ten teams. 

[GhostOfJoeMcCray]

5 minutes ago, HuscurAdam said:

Yes, but unless I'm misinterpreting what was posted, the stats he cited are from this year and don't include any Big Ten teams. 

 

All I said was Connor made 6 threes in a game twice already and Keisei never did that in three years against any opponent. Sample size has nothing to do with that. Connor did it (twice). Keisei never did. 

 

If you want to say Connor gets more volume because the rest of the team isn't as good of shooters as last year, you're technically right so far. Through 7 games this season Essegian has attempted 45 threes and made 20. Through 7 games last season, Keisei had attempted 38 threes and made 13. So Keisei would have had to go 7-7 just to equal Essegian's start to the season. 

 

But I don't really agree with the notion that Keisei never made 6 in a game because he didn't have as much opportunity as Connor. He had 7 games in his career where he shot 10+ threes, and he had 13 games where he took 9+ threes. Never made six. 

[cornfed24-7]

1 hour ago, GhostOfJoeMcCray said:

 

All I said was Connor made 6 threes in a game twice already and Keisei never did that in three years against any opponent. Sample size has nothing to do with that. Connor did it (twice). Keisei never did. 

 

If you want to say Connor gets more volume because the rest of the team isn't as good of shooters as last year, you're technically right so far. Through 7 games this season Essegian has attempted 45 threes and made 20. Through 7 games last season, Keisei had attempted 38 threes and made 13. So Keisei would have had to go 7-7 just to equal Essegian's start to the season. 

 

But I don't really agree with the notion that Keisei never made 6 in a game because he didn't have as much opportunity as Connor. He had 7 games in his career where he shot 10+ threes, and he had 13 games where he took 9+ threes. Never made six. 

True. However, what I want to see is Essegian do it when the defensive game plan is to shut him down at all costs and the space he has to shoot is significant less.

[hugh42]

5 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

True. However, what I want to see is Essegian do it when the defensive game plan is to shut him down at all costs and the space he has to shoot is significant less.

 

If teams go all out to take away CE's 3 point opportunities then he has the ability to make them pay from inside the arc (see Creighton game) and it may open things up for others as well. He also has an extremely quick release so he doesn't need much space to get his shot off anyway. Plus, I trust Fred will be able to get him open looks regardless of what the D is doing.

[cornfed24-7]

31 minutes ago, hugh42 said:

 

If teams go all out to take away CE's 3 point opportunities then he has the ability to make them pay from inside the arc (see Creighton game) and it may open things up for others as well. He also has an extremely quick release so he doesn't need much space to get his shot off anyway. Plus, I trust Fred will be able to get him open looks regardless of what the D is doing.

In theory yes. I'm waiting to see practical application. Until then Essegian has promise and a couple of good games in a Husker uniform.

[Huskerpapa]

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[Vinny]

Last game Essegian had a great pump fake and take to the lane. He anticipated the help and passed behind it to a cutting Gary for an easy basket. He baited the defense into it and made it pay off. I think we’re going to continue to like Essegian.

[cornfed24-7]

1 hour ago, Vinny said:

Last game Essegian had a great pump fake and take to the lane. He anticipated the help and passed behind it to a cutting Gary for an easy basket. He baited the defense into it and made it pay off. I think we’re going to continue to like Essegian.

Yeah. Also there was a set inbounds play where he curled, caught the pass, and drained a 3 from the corner. Boy was it SMOOOOOOTH. And a damned difficult shot to boot.

[Handy Johnson]

And the Frosting on the Cake with Essiegan is we rescued him from the Dirty ‘Sconis…! 

[Tallbaby21]

As long as we keep relentlessly attacking the rim and drawing fouls CE will get shots. 

[millerhusker]

On 12/3/2024 at 10:02 AM, Norm Peterson said:

I know it's early. I know it's really early. Sure, we probably won't know for sure until March or maybe April. OK, but I'm not asking for perfect prescience. I'm asking for maybe just better than gut feeling.

 

Just from what you've seen so far, what do you think? Vote, and then explain your vote, pls.

 

Thx

Need to add “better than Kansas” to the poll 

[hhcmatt]

Connor Essegian's issue has never been scoring, it's been playing enough defense to stay on the court.

[Huskerpapa]

14 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

Connor Essegian's issue has never been scoring, it's been playing enough defense to stay on the court.

I noted that at various times he was playing Keisei's role under the basket.  His length did cause a turnover or two.  

[Handy Johnson]

Ever heard of Eric Piatkowski…?