KenPom 2024-2025 KenPom Rankings Thread

[millerhusker]

Margin of victory seems to matter a whole lot. Penn State's NET is 34. Their SOS is atrocious. 6 of their 7 wins are Q4, their other win is Q3.  0-1 against Q1/2. But they are blowing out those Q4 teams. 

[49r]

Hoo boy it's been a good couple of weeks for the Big Ten!  We have 10 teams inside the KenPom top 40, and 6 in the top 25.  Q1 opportunities will abound in conference play.  Also check out the field in the Diamond Head Classic, that lineup is starting to look sneaky dangerous.  2-1 out there should be goal with 3-0 a possibility.  Gonna be a quick update this morning, so...Here we go!

 

---

 

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-02-24

========================

 

B1G (0-0):
14. Purdue (A)
15. Illinois (H)

17. UCLA (H)

18. Ohio State (2)

19. Oregon (A)

22. Michigan (H)

29. Wisconsin (A)

32. Maryland (2)

37. Michigan State (A)
38. Penn State (A)
47. Nebraska

49. Iowa (2)
53. Indiana (H)

63. Northwestern (A)
70. Rutgers (H)
78. Washington (A)

100. Minnesota (H)

108. USC (H)

 

 

Non-Conference (6-1):
179. UTRGV - W

279. Bethune Cookman - W
344. Farliegh Dickinson - W

---Sanford Pentagon---
33. Saint Mary’s - L

 

51. @Creighton - W

240. South Dakota - W
176. North Florida - W

 

—Diamond Head Classic---

92. Murray State

204./183. Charlotte/Hawaii

72./143./75./153. Oregon State/Charleston/Loyola/Oakland

 

235. Southern

[millerhusker]

According to ESPN BPI, our remaining strength of schedule rank is #9. Good. Almost done with non-con and the Big Ten looks good on paper, which is all that matters. Even though the eye test suggests there aren't any elite teams in the league. Really the best possible scenario for the Huskers. Just need to take care of our own business now. 

[hhcmatt]

31 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

First NET rankings of the year are out and Nebraska comes in at 44. Our first ranking last year was 76.  Creighton is 99. Not close to a quad 1 win as of now. We kinda really need them to beat Kansas on Wednesday. 

 Plan B: UTRGV 

[hskr4life]

24 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 Plan B: UTRGV 

Could be a good and bad thing for them, but they are done with their power conference teams now too. Their December starts conference play with Stephen F Austin and Lamar, they play N New Mexico and Southern Utah and then wrap the month with Biblical Studies and Dallas Christian.

 

Any loss will definitely drop them, but I don’t see a ton of losses left out there.

[hhcmatt]

2 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Could be a good and bad thing for them, but they are done with their power conference teams now too. Their December starts conference play with Stephen F Austin and Lamar, they play N New Mexico and Southern Utah and then wrap the month with Biblical Studies and Dallas Christian.

 

Any loss will definitely drop them, but I don’t see a ton of losses left out there.

 I am mostly joking as I don't expect UTRGV to end above a q3 win

[hskr4life]

16 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 I am mostly joking as I don't expect UTRGV to end above a q3 win

Same— but starting that high, should they run the table (or close to it) with some big blowouts, could keep them up there a little bit.

 

Also was trying to point out that they really can’t afford any more losses to stay where they are.  Every loss now is a “bad” or “badish” loss.

[GhostOfJoeMcCray]

43 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

Margin of victory seems to matter a whole lot. Penn State's NET is 34. Their SOS is atrocious. 6 of their 7 wins are Q4, their other win is Q3.  0-1 against Q1/2. But they are blowing out those Q4 teams. 

 

This is why NET is considered a predictive metric and is not supposed to be looked at by the committee when evaluating resumes. Every other metric for Penn State is horrible. 

[HuskerFever]

2 minutes ago, GhostOfJoeMcCray said:

1 hour ago, millerhusker said:

Margin of victory seems to matter a whole lot. Penn State's NET is 34. Their SOS is atrocious. 6 of their 7 wins are Q4, their other win is Q3.  0-1 against Q1/2. But they are blowing out those Q4 teams. 

 

This is why NET is considered a predictive metric and is not supposed to be looked at by the committee when evaluating resumes. Every other metric for Penn State is horrible. 

 

Scoring margin was excluded from NET as of May 2020. I haven't looked at their stats yet, but it's likely the "efficiency" metrics that are boosting their NET.

[HuskerFever]

2 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Creighton is 99. Not close to a quad 1 win as of now. We kinda really need them to beat Kansas on Wednesday. 

 

Maybe they're just focusing on their bowl game right now?

[ShortDust]

2 hours ago, millerhusker said:

Margin of victory seems to matter a whole lot. Penn State's NET is 34. Their SOS is atrocious. 6 of their 7 wins are Q4, their other win is Q3.  0-1 against Q1/2. But they are blowing out those Q4 teams. 

Covering the spread and taking care of business against the 200-300 level teams boosts that NET rating.

[Norm Peterson]

4 hours ago, millerhusker said:

First NET rankings of the year are out and Nebraska comes in at 44. Our first ranking last year was 76.  Creighton is 99. Not close to a quad 1 win as of now. We kinda really need them to beat Kansas on Wednesday. 

 

Is there anything else they can do besides that?

 

Volunteer hours at the soup kitchen, perhaps?

[Norm Peterson]

On 12/2/2024 at 9:03 AM, millerhusker said:

First NET rankings of the year are out and Nebraska comes in at 44. Our first ranking last year was 76.  Creighton is 99. Not close to a quad 1 win as of now. We kinda really need them to beat Kansas on Wednesday. 

 

OK, well ...

 

Maybe CU will be a quad 1 win for us.

[Norm Peterson]

That's crazy. CU has leapfrogged us after beating KU tonight. KU dropped 2 spots to #9. CU is up to #42. But we moved up to #45.

 

Just keep winning. That's all we can ask or hope for.

[hskr4life]

Creighton jumped up to #75 in the NET.  That pushed us from 43 to 35!

[49r]

41 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Creighton jumped up to #75 in the NET.  That pushed us from 43 to 35!

 

Okay...now you've got my attention.

[49r]

Big 12 stumbling last night helped move the Big Ten into second as a conference:

 

Ranking of conferences by NetRtg of team expected to go .500 in conference play

Conference		Rating	Conference		Rating
1	Southeastern Conference	+19.97	17	Big South Conference	-4.09
2	Big Ten Conference	+16.78	18	Coastal Athletic Association	-4.29
3	Big 12 Conference	+16.65	19	Horizon League	-5.24
4	Big East Conference	+13.84	20	Big Sky Conference	-5.65
5	Atlantic Coast Conference	+10.53	21	Mid American Conference	-5.66
6	Mountain West Conference	+6.80	22	Summit League	-6.27
7	Atlantic 10 Conference	+4.71	23	ASUN Conference	-6.46
8	West Coast Conference	+4.16	24	America East Conference	-7.25
9	American Athletic Conference	+1.86	25	Southland Conference	-7.58
10	Conference USA	+0.92	26	Patriot League	-8.95
11	Missouri Valley Conference	+0.31	27	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	-8.96
12	Big West Conference	-1.50	28	Ohio Valley Conference	-11.57
13	Western Athletic Conference	-1.91	29	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	-13.72
14	Ivy League	-2.61	30	Northeast Conference	-14.52
15	Southern Conference	-3.00	31	Southwestern Athletic Conference	-14.85
16	Sun Belt Conference	-3.86

[Norm Peterson]

When was the last time we were top 35 in the NET 7 games into a season?

[cornfed24-7]

36 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

When was the last time we were top 35 in the NET 7 games into a season?

I don't know, but I like it

[hskr4life]

56 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

When was the last time we were top 35 in the NET 7 games into a season?

Has the NET even been alive long enough for that?

[Sidelines - Nebraska]

2 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

When was the last time we were top 35 in the NET 7 games into a season?

I feel like that 2018-2019 team had to have been up there

[Vinny]

14 minutes ago, Sidelines - Nebraska said:

I feel like that 2018-2019 team had to have been up there

Good call.  According to this article written Nov. 26th 2018 when we were 5-1 for the initial NET rankings and number 14 that year. Torvik had us #3. 

 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-26/college-basketball-rankings-ohio-state-tops-first-net

[hhcmatt]

Brice mentioning in the North Florida post-game that they are also trying to impress the KenPom algorithms 

 

[49r]

heh..."kampong"

[hhcmatt]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

heh..."kampong"

 

Youtube is a Bartorvik Stan