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https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2017/12/7/16745262/big-ten-basketball-power-rankings-week-4-michigan-state-illinois-purdue-wisconsin-college-basketball

 

This site has the Illini ranked 9th??

Nebraska Cornhuskers

Ranking: 12

Last Week: 14

Move: UP 2

Nebraska had a huge win against Minnesota this week, but that does not negate to losses to St. Johns and UCF. The jury is still out on the Huskers in 2017.

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Nebraska wins the whole damn dance.....   Next day...    KenPom #49

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Some of you just really need to stop coming to the kenpom thread for your own sake.

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And, don't forget Mo Wagner, whose feelings were hurt last night...........  

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Looking at the future a little bit this morning doing the update and man, the schedule really does open up after the Kansas game.  I agree with @hhcdave in that 8-10 in conference really does look like something this team should achieve barring complete collapse.  If the team gels we could easily flip that to 10--8.  Couple of notes on the rankings today, first keep an eye on North Texas.  They were hovering around 300 when we played them but have jumped up about 50 spots since.  Second, Boston College got a big boost from their win yesterday, and finally, we were up to 88 last night but have settled back down to #90.

 

Here is today's KenPom update:

 

 

 

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-10-17

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B1G (1-1):

2. Michigan State (10) - L

8. Purdue (17)

35. Minnesota (36) - W
37. Maryland (41)
39. Penn State (40)
40. Michigan (32)
52. Ohio State (78)
58. Northwestern (18)
59. Wisconsin (31)
82. Indiana (65)
83. Iowa (54)
90. Nebraska (98)

100. Illinois (104)

106. Rutgers (125)
 
Non-Conference (6-3):
206. Eastern Illinois - W
253. North Texas - W
 
---Gavitt Tip-Off---
50. @St. John's - L
 
257. North Dakota - W
 
---Advocare Invitational---
74. UCF - L
312. Marist - W
235. Long Beach State - W
 
---B1G/ACC Challenge--- 
84. Boston College - W
 
33. @Creighton - L
 
---Shelter Insurance Showcase---
4. Kansas
 
229. UTSA
349. Delaware State
314. Stetson
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Also, here is a little RPI action to keep you motivated for Kansas Hate Week™  (We're still two spots ahead of Creighton in the RPI, BTW).  :)

 

RANK PREVIOUS SCHOOL CONFERENCE RECORD ROAD NEUTRAL HOME NON DIV I
3 4 Michigan St. Big Ten 8-1 1-0 3-1 4-0 0-0
16 16 Purdue Big Ten 9-2 2-0 1-2 6-0 0-0
46 46 Minnesota Big Ten 8-2 1-1 2-0 5-1 0-0
54 52 Nebraska Big Ten 7-3 0-2 2-1 5-0 0-0
62 64 Maryland Big Ten 8-3 1-1 2-1 5-1 0-0
64 65 Ohio St. Big Ten 7-3 1-0 1-2 5-1 0-0
70 81 Michigan Big Ten 7-3 0-2 1-1 5-0 1-0
92 91 Wisconsin Big Ten 4-6 1-2 0-2 3-2 0-0
118 119 Northwestern Big Ten 5-4 0-2 1-1 4-1 0-0
128 129 Rutgers Big Ten 7-3 0-1 0-0 6-2 1-0
148 147 Penn St. Big Ten 7-3 1-1 1-1 5-1 0-0
176 180 Illinois Big Ten 7-3 0-2 0-0 6-1 1-0
178 175 Indiana Big Ten 5-4 0-2 0-0 5-2 0-0
233 235 Iowa Big Ten 4-6 0-3 1-2 3-1 0-0
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This Kansas game at home is probably worth an upper level B1G road win when it comes to the tourney.

It's feasible we could finish 9-9, 19-12 by beating any combination of teams assuming that one of them is Kansas.

 

49r

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Lots of upward mobility at the bottom of the Big Ten.  We're all out of the triple digits now.  Time for the guys to pick up some wins over the holidays and come back ready for Conference play.

 

Here is today's KenPom update:

 

 

 

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-17-17

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B1G (1-1):

2. Michigan State (10) - L

6. Purdue (17)

35. Michigan (32)
37. Maryland (41)
38. Penn State (40)
41. Minnesota (36) - W
46. Northwestern (18)
49. Ohio State (78)
63. Wisconsin (31)
73. Iowa (54)
74. Indiana (65)
85. Nebraska (98)
90. Rutgers (125)

97. Illinois (104)

 

Non-Conference (6-4):
221. Eastern Illinois - W
235. North Texas - W
 
---Gavitt Tip-Off---
48. @St. John's - L
 
257. North Dakota - W
 
---Advocare Invitational---
77. UCF - L
318. Marist - W
238. Long Beach State - W
 
---B1G/ACC Challenge--- 
82. Boston College - W
 
31. @Creighton - L
 
---Shelter Insurance Showcase---
9. Kansas - L
 
229. UTSA
349. Delaware State
314. Stetson
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Just a quick little KenPom update today.  Due to Indiana's loss to IPFW last night the Huskers have moved up another spot in the Rankings to 11th!  Also, UTSA has jumped up 30 spots.

 

 

 

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-19-17

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B1G (1-1):

2. Michigan State (10) - L

5. Purdue (17)

35. Michigan (32)
36. Maryland (41)
37. Penn State (40)
41. Minnesota (36) - W
45. Ohio State (78)
46. Northwestern (18)
62. Wisconsin (31)
73. Iowa (54)
84. Nebraska (98)
95. Indiana (65)
90. Rutgers (125)

96. Illinois (104)

 

Non-Conference (6-4):
223. Eastern Illinois - W
232. North Texas - W
 
---Gavitt Tip-Off---
49. @St. John's - L
 
259. North Dakota - W
 
---Advocare Invitational---
78. UCF - L
318. Marist - W
236. Long Beach State - W
 
---B1G/ACC Challenge--- 
81. Boston College - W
 
33. @Creighton - L
 
---Shelter Insurance Showcase---
9. Kansas - L
 
199. UTSA
351. Delaware State
302. Stetson
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hskr4life

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17 minutes ago, 49r said:

Just a quick little KenPom update today.  Due to Indiana's loss to IPFW last night the Huskers have moved up another spot in the Rankings to 11th!  Also, UTSA has jumped up 30 spots.

 

 

 

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-19-17

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B1G (1-1):

2. Michigan State (10) - L

5. Purdue (17)

35. Michigan (32)
36. Maryland (41)
37. Penn State (40)
41. Minnesota (36) - W
45. Ohio State (78)
46. Northwestern (18)
62. Wisconsin (31)
73. Iowa (54)
84. Nebraska (98)
95. Indiana (65)
90. Rutgers (125)

96. Illinois (104)

 

 

Interesting note....

 

Big 10 teams that are down: Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Iowa, Indiana

 

Big 10 teams that are up: Michigan St, Purdue, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Rutgers, Illinois.

 

Interesting question...

 

Are we the only conference with all teams in the top 100?

49r

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7 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

Interesting question...

 

Are we the only conference with all teams in the top 100?

 

Nope, the SEC has all 14 in the top 100 and the Big 12 has everyone in the top SIXTY!!!! (and 6 out of 10 are in the KenPom top 25). Big 12 is absolutely stacked this year!

hskr4life

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Nope, the SEC has all 14 in the top 100 and the Big 12 has everyone in the top SIXTY!!!! (and 6 out of 10 are in the KenPom top 25). Big 12 is absolutely stacked this year!

 

Big 12 will be a dogfight and I am probably more surprised that the SEC has all teams in the top 100 than I am that the Big 12 has everyone in the top 60.

49r

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Not any change of note today.  Our cuppiest of cake opponent is coming next.  Here is today's KenPom update:

 

 

 

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-21-17

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B1G (1-1):

2. Michigan State (10) - L

5. Purdue (17)

33. Michigan (32)
34. Maryland (41)
37. Penn State (40)
41. Minnesota (36) - W
45. Ohio State (78)
46. Northwestern (18)
63. Wisconsin (31)
74. Iowa (54)
86. Nebraska (98)
95. Indiana (65)
90. Rutgers (125)

93. Illinois (104)

 

Non-Conference (7-4):
228. Eastern Illinois - W
234. North Texas - W
 
---Gavitt Tip-Off---
50. @St. John's - L
 
258. North Dakota - W
 
---Advocare Invitational---
76. UCF - L
319. Marist - W
235. Long Beach State - W
 
---B1G/ACC Challenge--- 
80. Boston College - W
 
26. @Creighton - L
 
---Shelter Insurance Showcase---
7. Kansas - L
 
196. UTSA - W
350. Delaware State
307. Stetson
49r

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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi

 

RANK PREVIOUS SCHOOL CONFERENCE RECORD ROAD NEUTRAL HOME NON DIV I
6 5 Michigan St. Big Ten 11-1 1-0 4-1 6-0 0-0
15 15 Purdue Big Ten 11-2 2-0 2-2 7-0 0-0
26 26 Michigan  Big Ten 10-3 1-2 2-1 6-0 1-0
46 42 Minnesota  Big Ten 9-3 1-2 2-0 6-1 0-0
53 50 Ohio St. Big Ten 10-3 1-0 1-2 8-1 0-0
55 54 Nebraska  Big Ten 8-5 0-3 2-1 6-1 0-0
65 69 Maryland  Big Ten 10-3 1-1 2-1 6-1 1-0
77 83 Wisconsin Big Ten 5-7 1-2 0-2 4-3 0-0
83 87 Penn St. Big Ten 10-3 2-1 1-1 7-1 0-0
93 89 Northwestern Big Ten 9-4 1-2 1-1 6-1 1-0
125 132 Rutgers Big Ten 10-3 0-1 0-0 9-2 1-0
140 145 Indiana  Big Ten 6-6 0-3 1-0 5-3 0-0
194 194 Iowa  Big Ten 7-6 0-3 2-2 5-1 0-0
195 195 Illinois  Big Ten 8-5 0-2 0-2 7-1 1-0

 

Chuck Taylor

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B1G (1-1):

2. Michigan State (10) - L

5. Purdue (17)

33. Michigan (32)
34. Maryland (41)
37. Penn State (40)
41. Minnesota (36) - W
45. Ohio State (78)
46. Northwestern (18)
63. Wisconsin (31)
74. Iowa (54)
86. Nebraska (98)
95. Indiana (65)
90. Rutgers (125)

93. Illinois (104)

 

 

I'm into analytics and this has bothered me for the last week or so. My level of optimism over our play hasn't been matched by the numbers guys. It's not just KenPom. We're 93 in TeamRankings and 81 in Massey. These things measure how you play, not just the W/Ls, and they're not showing much. Northwestern, for example, was playing poorly earlier and had dropped into the upper 50s. Now they seem to be putting it together and they're into the mid-40s. Strictly from a numbers standpoint, I wonder what's not translating into the analysis.

 

(Not talking about RPI, that's an entirely different discussion and not worth a second thought at this point in the season.)

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Our run of play has only really started to come together in the past few weeks or so.  We have jumped about 20 spots in that time.  The last game against UTSA we didn't beat the KenPom spread which is why we didn't move anywhere.  Wins and losses matter less than by how much a team wins or loses.

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Our run of play has only really started to come together in the past few weeks or so.  We have jumped about 20 spots in that time.  The last game against UTSA we didn't beat the KenPom spread which is why we didn't move anywhere.  Wins and losses matter less than by how much a team wins or loses.

Right, it's how you're playing. Part of the reason we've moved up since the start of the season is that our preseason KenPom ranking reflected a lot of past performance. That's disappeared from the equation now, and our body of work after 13 games puts us at 86. NW, for example, started much higher in preseason, dropped a lot as they struggled and now has started moving up.

 

Apparently something we're doing isn't translating, or maybe I'm misjudging what I see on the court. IDK, maybe I should worry about what to get my wife for Christmas.

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1 hour ago, Chuck Taylor said:

Right, it's how you're playing. Part of the reason we've moved up since the start of the season is that our preseason KenPom ranking reflected a lot of past performance. That's disappeared from the equation now, and our body of work after 13 games puts us at 86. NW, for example, started much higher in preseason, dropped a lot as they struggled and now has started moving up.

 

Apparently something we're doing isn't translating, or maybe I'm misjudging what I see on the court. IDK, maybe I should worry about what to get my wife for Christmas.

 

Probably it's for the best.  Worrying about our KenPom ranking is somewhat pointless, IMO.  It's just fun for me to do this thread. :) 

 

Actually I think the margin in some of the games may have prevented us from moving up more in KenPom, for example against UTSA we give up a meaningless 3 at the end to fall under the KenPom line which I think may have made the difference in a few spots.  But it is what it is.  Like @Norm Peterson says, in the end either this team will be good enough to make the postseason or they aren't.  Time will tell, and we may as well just enjoy the ride!

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1 hour ago, OmahaHusker said:

Does that guy that says "10 more" really think that wins against Delaware State and Stetson and only 8 more conference wins will get us into the tourney?

 

I took that to mean that we need to jump 10 more spots in the RPI to (likely) make the Dance.  We're sitting at 55 right now, and usually if you're a top 45 team you've got a good shot at snagging an at-large bid.

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2 hours ago, aphilso1 said:

 

I took that to mean that we need to jump 10 more spots in the RPI to (likely) make the Dance.  We're sitting at 55 right now, and usually if you're a top 45 team you've got a good shot at snagging an at-large bid.

 

Oh ok that makes more sense. A 45 RPI is a solid bubble team. Thanks for clearing that up.

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