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 Some promising potential numbers there. 

On 4/29/2020 at 7:41 PM, TheKamdyMan said:

 

 

 Some promising potential numbers there. 

Kevin sent me his list and I did a bit of a deeper dive into it last month if anybody here happens to subscribe to Hail Varsity. 

https://hailvarsity.com/s/9422/history-of-division-ii-to-division-i-transfers-at-the-high-major-level

Woah

This would be huge!

This is such huge news if it comes to pass.  I'm not sure what role Lakes plays but one has to think he takes some time from a combination of Yvan, Thor, Stevenson assuming he can still hit north of 40% from three at this level.  We need floor spacers and guys that can knock down shots in the worst way.

Let's not get too excited here.  Lakes is a division 2 guy.  Big BIG jump from U Indy to this level...

34 minutes ago, 49r said:

Let's not get too excited here.  Lakes is a division 2 guy.  Big BIG jump from U Indy to this level...

Let's not put any expectations on the kid, but let's not sell him short either. The kid can shoot.

5 minutes ago, hugh42 said:

 

Let's not put any expectations on the kid, but let's not sell him short either. The kid can shoot.

Fair enough.

I'd like to hear from @Norm Petersonabout whether he's quick enough with his shot to get it off against quick and long defenses in the Big Ten. Or Doane.

Nebraska does need competent long-range shooters. I hope Lakes can help the cause.

https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Funl.box.com%2Fs%2F1y0xdkkcsa55tm48shk355pbc8koe5x9
 

Here’s what I like about Trevor. Go to 21:20 of the video and watch his shot. He doesn’t dip the ball at all. Most college players dip it all the way down to their waist to start their set shot motion. He doesn’t even bring it below his shoulders. That is elite. That’s EXTREMELY difficult to do when the bullets are flying and do it well. Klay Thompson is literally the only college player I can remember who was able to do that consistently. Duncan Robinson does it now, but he didn’t at Michigan. Trevor can absolutely get his shot off at this level. Of course, there’s more to basketball than just getting shots off. He could very well be a liability defensively, I don’t know. 

he also has range. There were plenty of these in his highlight reel
 

What we never know until we see any of these guys is does he know where he needs to be on defense and offense? We bemoaned the slow wind-up of Kavas but watching him in game 15 not having any idea where he was supposed to be on defense was a whole other issue. 

Him as a stretch 4 in a time-share with Lat seems like the right place for him. Him having to guard a 240+ center seems like it would end poorly unless he is Ryan Anderson 2.0

1 hour ago, jayschool said:

I'd like to hear from @Norm Petersonabout whether he's quick enough with his shot to get it off against quick and long defenses in the Big Ten. Or Doane.

Hell to the yes.

Hoiberg did a zoom thing that someone posted here. He had some video that included Lakes shooting. The kid has a lightning-fast release. No big windup. Not a lot of moving parts. Like a metronome: catch; release; repeat. And apparently extremely accurate.

If he has quick enough feet to play defense, he'll have an impact when he's on the floor, because everyone else's looks will get marginally better. Defenses might be able to stay in his jock and shut him down, but they'll have to give a little somewhere else in order to do it.

But, when he is on the floor, they will HAVE to account for him. It's just a question of whether he's giving up more points on the defensive end than his presence contributes on the offensive end.

This would be HUGE if it happens.

1 hour ago, jayschool said:

I'd like to hear from @Norm Petersonabout whether he's quick enough with his shot to get it off against quick and long defenses in the Big Ten. Or Doane.

@millerhusker posted exactly what I was thinking of and I share his views. Yes, this kid can get his shot off. Defenses might try to limit him by preventing the catch, but if they do that, they have to give up something somewhere else. The big question is whether he can hold his own defensively.

I'm sure Teddy Allen is licking his chops at the prospect of a ~45% 3-point specialist spreading out defenses for him.

I'll take an Ethan Wragge-type player on this team. Even a poor man's Wragge. His senior year stats are some of the most hilarious season stats you'll ever see....  

Two pointers - 2 for 8 (25%)

Three pointers - 112 for 242 (46%)

Wragge and Lakes are the exact same size. That's a guy that knows his role. Only had 20 turnovers on the entire season. Wasn't really interested in playing defense or rebounding. When the ball came to him he either shot or passed it immediately. He really opened things up for Doug McDermott. That's exactly what we need. 

1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

Him as a stretch 4 in a time-share with Lat seems like the right place for him. Him having to guard a 240+ center seems like it would end poorly unless he is Ryan Anderson 2.0

If Lakes is eligible, then I think that ends the days of Lat and Yvan being on the court simultaneously.  I'd see the addition of Lakes as a way of cutting Yvan's minutes and relegating him to purely being Lat's backup.

Here's a highlight video of Lakes. Now, some will say, "it's just highlights; that doesn't tell you much." But I can SEE with my EYES that the guy can shoot and how he shoots. And his STATS back up what I SEE.

So, one of the things I really, REALLY like about Lakes is that he doesn't just spot up around the 3-point line waiting for people to pass it to him. If I'm being honest, that's one of the things that bothered me about Keisei Tominaga in that scrimmage that someone posted a link to (against some other juco squad.) Keisei would, at times, just hang out near the wing, or what Coach Hoiberg calls the slot, with his hands up waiting for people to pass it to him. He didn't necessarily move well without the ball.

Lakes patiently reverses the ball. Moves well without the ball. Doesn't just wait for a pass on the perimeter but instead picks his opportunities pretty well. If there's no shot, he swings the ball to the next guy and goes to set a screen or rolls to the basket and then v-cuts to another spot. And you'll see in the video below how many times the ball ended up getting back around to him for a much better look.

Look at this video and tell me how defenses would suddenly have to play us differently. Look at this video and tell me how long Nevada could have stuck to their 1-3-1.

It will be interesting to see if he can consistently hit his shot at the level we play in.  My concern stems from the fact that the coaches and player thought a year off, building strength and playing against our players, was going to be of great benefit for him. What has changed...other than the current situation.  

I will maintain low expectations and will hopefully be happily amazed.

5 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

It will be interesting to see if he can consistently hit his shot at the level we play in.  My concern stems from the fact that the coaches and players thought a year off, building strength and playing against our players, was going to be of great benefit for him. What has changed...other than the current situation.  

I will maintain low expectations and will hopefully be happily amazed.

He had to sit out as a transfer. 

19 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

Here's a highlight video of Lakes. Now, some will say, "it's just highlights; that doesn't tell you much." But I can SEE with my EYES that the guy can shoot and how he shoots. And his STATS back up what I SEE.

 

So, one of the things I really, REALLY like about Lakes is that he doesn't just spot up around the 3-point line waiting for people to pass it to him. If I'm being honest, that's one of the things that bothered me about Keisei Tominaga in that scrimmage that someone posted a link to (against some other juco squad.) Keisei would, at times, just hang out near the wing, or what Coach Hoiberg calls the slot, with his hands up waiting for people to pass it to him. He didn't necessarily move well without the ball.

 

Lakes patiently reverses the ball. Moves well without the ball. Doesn't just wait for a pass on the perimeter but instead picks his opportunities pretty well. If there's no shot, he swings the ball to the next guy and goes to set a screen or rolls to the basket and then v-cuts to another spot. And you'll see in the video below how many times the ball ended up getting back around to him for a much better look.

 

Look at this video and tell me how defenses would suddenly have to play us differently. Look at this video and tell me how long Nevada could have stuck to their 1-3-1.

 

 

 

Those Indiana boys get coached up early on. When a guy understands how to play the game, it makes it a heckuva lot easier to teach him how to play within a system, especially one like Hoiberg's that requires an understanding of player movement to keep proper spacing. It also allows him to play fast without actually being, well, fast. 

33 minutes ago, atskooc said:

He had to sit out as a transfer. 

Perhaps...but there was also mention of the other.  Please don't make me go out and find the discussion. 

1 hour ago, Huskerpapa said:

It will be interesting to see if he can consistently hit his shot at the level we play in.  My concern stems from the fact that the coaches and player thought a year off, building strength and playing against our players, was going to be of great benefit for him. What has changed...other than the current situation.  

I will maintain low expectations and will hopefully be happily amazed.

He was required to sit out a year as a transfer but the NCAA is potentially going to meet on Wednesday and let everyone be eligible + give them another year.

The biggest thing I took from that video is that there are some really cool looking gyms in that league.

1 hour ago, aphilso1 said:

 

If Lakes is eligible, then I think that ends the days of Lat and Yvan being on the court simultaneously.  I'd see the addition of Lakes as a way of cutting Yvan's minutes and relegating him to purely being Lat's backup.

When we get to the point that Andre and Walker are eligible, how often will we be running Lat out at center?