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Bo Pelini's job status  

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  1. 1. If Pelini had had a public personality more like, well, any of the other coaches we've had since Devaney, would he still have a job here?

    • Yes. People would have been more willing to overlook some embarrassing losses if our head coach hadn't compounded the embarrassment with his sideline and other behavior
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    • No. Nine wins is nice, but he never sniffed a championship, recruiting was on the decline, and his losses were catastrophes of questionable coaching. He deserved to be fired regardless of his behavior.
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I voted in the poll, but this whole situation is way past looking back at Bo, The Eichorst hire of Riley should be looked at outside of that.  We have the firing. That was inevitable once Tom was gone, for better or worse, like it or not.   But without regard to that, we have the hiring.  I recall when Danny was really struggling in years 2-4, no one could evaluate anything outside of their views on Moe.  It was hard to have a conversation about Danny outside of "Well, do you want Moe back"?  The lens here needs to be wider.  Many can only look at the Riley hire  based on their views of Bo.  At this point it isn't about Bo.  It's about Eichorst.  

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I believe that his actions are the reason Eichorst used to fire him.  He didn't have any other grounds to fire him really besides the blowout losses.

Right now, 20 per cent of the Husker 2 deep roster is filled by walk-ons or former walk-ons.  That tells me recruiting for the last 4 or 5 years has had many more misses than they have hits.  I think overall job performance is what makes or breaks anyone in any job, athletic directors included.

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After my somewhat snarky comment above, I received my very first email from Shawn Eichorst today, I thought ,oh oh, there go my football tickets. Turned out to be a form letter saying how good the fans were and the coaches were going to turn things around. I expect he will send me a Christmas card this year since I now consider him my new best friend.

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The real question you should be killing yourself with should be where would we be if we'd fired Pelini two years ago instead of last year?

That's a good question.  If you did a poll on that, I wonder what kind of response there'd be.

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The real question you should be killing yourself with should be where would we be if we'd fired Pelini two years ago instead of last year?

We would be in year 2 of the Riley regime.  We would have gone 9-4 last year, winning the bowl game but losing to Iowa.  This year, we would currently be 5-4, beating both Illinois and Purdue.  We would have a serviceable freshman qb sitting out as a redshirt waiting for the chance to run Langsdorf"s offense, whatever the hell that is.  We would be trying to recruit, mad as hell, linemen on both sides of the ball.  And last but not least, we would be recruiting defensive backs faster than Andy Means.

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The real question you should be killing yourself with should be where would we be if we'd fired Pelini two years ago instead of last year?

We would be in year 2 of the Riley regime.  We would have gone 9-4 last year, winning the bowl game but losing to Iowa.  This year, we would currently be 5-4, beating both Illinois and Purdue.  We would have a serviceable freshman qb sitting out as a redshirt waiting for the chance to run Langsdorf"s offense, whatever the hell that is.  We would be trying to recruit, mad as hell, linemen on both sides of the ball.  And last but not least, we would be recruiting defensive backs faster than Andy Means.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Andy was all-Conference.

 

And he took a vicious hit way out-of-bounds by the Okie State QB whom he'd just picked off and it went unflagged in the 2nd worst no-call in a Husker game I've ever seen.  (Worst one was Eric Crouch doing the Linda Blair Exorcist head turn against Kansas State.)

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The real question you should be killing yourself with should be where would we be if we'd fired Pelini two years ago instead of last year?

We would be in year 2 of the Riley regime.  We would have gone 9-4 last year, winning the bowl game but losing to Iowa.  This year, we would currently be 5-4, beating both Illinois and Purdue.  We would have a serviceable freshman qb sitting out as a redshirt waiting for the chance to run Langsdorf"s offense, whatever the hell that is.  We would be trying to recruit, mad as hell, linemen on both sides of the ball.  And last but not least, we would be recruiting defensive backs faster than Andy Means.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Andy was all-Conference.

 

And he took a vicious hit way out-of-bounds by the Okie State QB whom he'd just picked off and it went unflagged in the 2nd worst no-call in a Husker game I've ever seen.  (Worst one was Eric Crouch doing the Linda Blair Exorcist head turn against Kansas State.)

No Penn State Norm?

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The real question you should be killing yourself with should be where would we be if we'd fired Pelini two years ago instead of last year?

We would be in year 2 of the Riley regime. We would have gone 9-4 last year, winning the bowl game but losing to Iowa. This year, we would currently be 5-4, beating both Illinois and Purdue. We would have a serviceable freshman qb sitting out as a redshirt waiting for the chance to run Langsdorf"s offense, whatever the hell that is. We would be trying to recruit, mad as hell, linemen on both sides of the ball. And last but not least, we would be recruiting defensive backs faster than Andy Means.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Andy was all-Conference.

And he took a vicious hit way out-of-bounds by the Okie State QB whom he'd just picked off and it went unflagged in the 2nd worst no-call in a Husker game I've ever seen. (Worst one was Eric Crouch doing the Linda Blair Exorcist head turn against Kansas State.)

No Penn State Norm?
I was talking about no calls on obvious penalties. As far as blown calls are concerned, the Penn State game belongs in the pantheon of the most impactful blown calls in the history of sport right up there with Jim Joyce robbing Armando Galleraga of a perfect game by incorrectly calling the 27th batter safe at first.
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The real question you should be killing yourself with should be where would we be if we'd fired Pelini two years ago instead of last year?

We would be in year 2 of the Riley regime. We would have gone 9-4 last year, winning the bowl game but losing to Iowa. This year, we would currently be 5-4, beating both Illinois and Purdue. We would have a serviceable freshman qb sitting out as a redshirt waiting for the chance to run Langsdorf"s offense, whatever the hell that is. We would be trying to recruit, mad as hell, linemen on both sides of the ball. And last but not least, we would be recruiting defensive backs faster than Andy Means.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Andy was all-Conference.

And he took a vicious hit way out-of-bounds by the Okie State QB whom he'd just picked off and it went unflagged in the 2nd worst no-call in a Husker game I've ever seen. (Worst one was Eric Crouch doing the Linda Blair Exorcist head turn against Kansas State.)

No Penn State Norm?
I was talking about no calls on obvious penalties. As far as blown calls are concerned, the Penn State game belongs in the pantheon of the most impactful blown calls in the history of sport right up there with Jim Joyce robbing Armando Galleraga of a perfect game by incorrectly calling the 27th batter safe at first.

 

As for blown calls on Husker football, the call of no fumble (or the runner was down) on John Ruud's hit on Kelly Phelps on the kickoff in the '78 Nebraska game is right behind the expanded field Penn state game.  And it is only behind it because we went on to win the game anyway, as opposed to losing a national title because of the Penn State call.  

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Not to derail the current conversation, I'm just late to the party on this thread.

 

With the demise of Bo's career at Nebraska, I think we all need to remember that the lessons learned are a two-way street. Yes, Bo acted out and his behavior was unjustified and was certainly a major factor for his departure. But we also mustn't forget that the fan base is a wild bunch too. It take a special person to be able to handle the scrutiny of 1 million (citation needed) fans across the world, but at the same time our actions (whether or not this came from a very small minority) also helped push Bo into this "us against them" mentality. It's like throwing up your fists in a bar and expecting the other person to stay calm under pressure. Again, not an excuse, but we must realize that we are a special bunch of fans. We need to be patient and more importantly, continue to show our support... in all kinds of weather.

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Not to derail the current conversation, I'm just late to the party on this thread.

 

With the demise of Bo's career at Nebraska, I think we all need to remember that the lessons learned are a two-way street. Yes, Bo acted out and his behavior was unjustified and was certainly a major factor for his departure. But we also mustn't forget that the fan base is a wild bunch too. It take a special person to be able to handle the scrutiny of 1 million (citation needed) fans across the world, but at the same time our actions (whether or not this came from a very small minority) also helped push Bo into this "us against them" mentality. It's like throwing up your fists in a bar and expecting the other person to stay calm under pressure. Again, not an excuse, but we must realize that we are a special bunch of fans. We need to be patient and more importantly, continue to show our support... in all kinds of weather.

 Good points, but I believe what pushed the "us vs. them" mentality much more than the fans was years of lack of support and undercutting of him by the Chancellor.  Bo's own flaws and wiring contributed as well, but IMO HP was more responsible for it than fans.  

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