OT: Doc Sadler introduced as head coach at Southern Miss

[jimmykc]

Each would would be better off with the Walter White look.

[jimmykc]

Finally got around to reading the linked article. Two questions. 1. Is that Doc's next home pictured on the bottom. 2. When did Calipari's team play one of Doc's teams?

[49r]

To answer question #2 jimmy, it would have been while Doc was coach at UTEP when he would have coached against conference mate Memphis.  Coached by John Calipari.

[PimpMario]

So the 1620 the zone shows all have a clip of Sadler saying "its exciting" and I can't find it anywhere!

 

Someone please help.  I would love to make it my notification sound.  Youtube, mp3, etc.

[49r]

KNTK - Morning Take:  Doc Sadler hired at So. Miss…Memories of Doc

 

http://www.theticketfm.com/podcasts/morningtake/2014_05_01_1.mp3

(19:07)

 

Former Nebrasketball coach Doc Sadler has landed another head coaching gig and will take the helm for the Southern Miss Golden Eagles.

[49r]

KNTK - Morning Take:  Best of Doc Sadler / Jameis Winston / 2-minute drill

 

http://www.theticketfm.com/podcasts/morningtake/2014_05_01_3.mp3

(15:49)

 

Remembering Doc Sadler’s time at Nebraska. Jameis Winston ran off with some crab legs in Florida…is it a big deal?

[49r]

KNTK - Gaskins & Stephens:  Doc’s Perfect Job

 

http://www.theticketfm.com/podcasts/gaskinsstephens/2014_05_1_4.2.mp3

(7:56)

 

Sadler to Southern Miss feels like a fit

[49r]

KNTK - Gaskins & Stephens:  Sadler’s Style

 

http://www.theticketfm.com/podcasts/gaskinsstephens/2014_05_1_7.2.mp3

(7:00)

 

Failed with Nebrasketball, could work in his new job at Southern Miss

[Red Dane]

I just cannot get on board the congrats to Doc wagon. I would have if it had saved us from the buyout. To me, he got his nice extension to become a very wealthy man and then flat out quit and coasted into the happy land of sick buyouts. The effort completely dropped off the map in all areas of the program that he had a hand in. He seemed like a nice and good guy to start with, but I am left with the impression that he was a scheister that took an elderly AD for all he was worth. 

 

I would not be pleased if I were a Southern Miss fan. I've already bought the snake oil once, though.

[HuskerFever]

I just cannot get on board the congrats to Doc wagon. I would have if it had saved us from the buyout. To me, he got his nice extension to become a very wealthy man and then flat out quit and coasted into the happy land of sick buyouts. The effort completely dropped off the map in all areas of the program that he had a hand in. He seemed like a nice and good guy to start with, but I am left with the impression that he was a scheister that took an elderly AD for all he was worth. 

 

I would not be pleased if I were a Southern Miss fan. I've already bought the snake oil once, though.

 

Your coworkers must really hate you.

[49r]

I just cannot get on board the congrats to Doc wagon. I would have if it had saved us from the buyout. To me, he got his nice extension to become a very wealthy man and then flat out quit and coasted into the happy land of sick buyouts. The effort completely dropped off the map in all areas of the program that he had a hand in. He seemed like a nice and good guy to start with, but I am left with the impression that he was a scheister that took an elderly AD for all he was worth. 

 

I would not be pleased if I were a Southern Miss fan. I've already bought the snake oil once, though.

 

This seems like a misguided opinion.

[CrazyforNUHOOPS]

I just cannot get on board the congrats to Doc wagon. I would have if it had saved us from the buyout. To me, he got his nice extension to become a very wealthy man and then flat out quit and coasted into the happy land of sick buyouts. The effort completely dropped off the map in all areas of the program that he had a hand in. He seemed like a nice and good guy to start with, but I am left with the impression that he was a scheister that took an elderly AD for all he was worth.

I would not be pleased if I were a Southern Miss fan. I've already bought the snake oil once, though.

This seems like a misguided opinion.

I second your opinion of his opinion.

[kldm64]

 

I just cannot get on board the congrats to Doc wagon. I would have if it had saved us from the buyout. To me, he got his nice extension to become a very wealthy man and then flat out quit and coasted into the happy land of sick buyouts. The effort completely dropped off the map in all areas of the program that he had a hand in. He seemed like a nice and good guy to start with, but I am left with the impression that he was a scheister that took an elderly AD for all he was worth. 

 

I would not be pleased if I were a Southern Miss fan. I've already bought the snake oil once, though.

 

This seems like a misguided opinion.

 

 

I disagree as think this post is dead on.  Doc tries to use his charm and personality to cover his lack of coaching abilities.

[GoBigRed]

 

 

I just cannot get on board the congrats to Doc wagon. I would have if it had saved us from the buyout. To me, he got his nice extension to become a very wealthy man and then flat out quit and coasted into the happy land of sick buyouts. The effort completely dropped off the map in all areas of the program that he had a hand in. He seemed like a nice and good guy to start with, but I am left with the impression that he was a scheister that took an elderly AD for all he was worth. 

 

I would not be pleased if I were a Southern Miss fan. I've already bought the snake oil once, though.

 

This seems like a misguided opinion.

 

 

I disagree as think this post is dead on.  Doc tries to use his charm and personality to cover his lack of coaching abilities.

 

 

Maybe, but that doesn't mean he "quit" and "coasted" as Red Dane said. The man cried and had to nearly walk away from the podium during his farewell press conference. He wanted to succeed here badly, and if he had thrown in the towel he would not have cared so much when he left.

[Red Dane]

I'm sorry that a few of you are insulted, but the complete lack of recruiting success here his final two seasons was embarrassing. The diminished level of effort and positive energy on and off the court from when he started to when he finished was extremely noticeable. For as much as he was making, I have no sympathy for the "getting beat down" excuse that many seem eager to hand him. I don't know -  If it was all Mountain Dew driven, then he should have kept chugging the stuff because that was not a very good coach in any way, shape, or form that walked out of the athletic department with a handsome treasure chest in tow. At least when he started, he inspired some gritty play to overcome his other deficiencies. When he gave up on that, there was nothing left at all and his extension rates as one of NU's worst decisions in a decade filled with some doozies.

 

People ridicule Bill Callahan and I can see legitimate reasons for it, but you can never say that he wasn't trying with all he had. I respect the man for that and have wished him well ever since. I just do not have the same respect for Doc. When you pass a certain level of income, I think the expectations for commitment, effort, and devotion to the job raise to an extreme level. He seems quite personable, but I think he dropped the ball on those expectations when things did not break his way and would be surprised if he did not do so again. I think he would do well to continue as an assistant or operations person where the expectations are not so high.

 

Well, Southern Miss can at least save on their basketball budget as some of us can recall the ever successful Doc philosophy of having multiple practices without them.

[HB]

I'm sorry that a few of you are insulted, but the complete lack of recruiting success here his final two seasons was embarrassing. The diminished level of effort and positive energy on and off the court from when he started to when he finished was extremely noticeable. For as much as he was making, I have no sympathy for the "getting beat down" excuse that many seem eager to hand him. I don't know -  If it was all Mountain Dew driven, then he should have kept chugging the stuff because that was not a very good coach in any way, shape, or form that walked out of the athletic department with a handsome treasure chest in tow. At least when he started, he inspired some gritty play to overcome his other deficiencies. When he gave up on that, there was nothing left at all and his extension rates as one of NU's worst decisions in a decade filled with some doozies.

 

People ridicule Bill Callahan and I can see legitimate reasons for it, but you can never say that he wasn't trying with all he had. I respect the man for that and have wished him well ever since. I just do not have the same respect for Doc. When you pass a certain level of income, I think the expectations for commitment, effort, and devotion to the job raise to an extreme level. He seems quite personable, but I think he dropped the ball on those expectations when things did not break his way and would be surprised if he did not do so again. I think he would do well to continue as an assistant or operations person where the expectations are not so high.

 

Well, Southern Miss can at least save on their basketball budget as some of us can recall the ever successful Doc philosophy of having multiple practices without them.

 

That might just be the worst post in the history of this board.  Callahan had disdain for Nebraska and Nebraskans, and you praise him. He refused to even wear anything with Husker colors his last 2 months.  He made more than Doc, and at the end just wanted to show off his offense no matter how bad we got beat.  His own ego ruled as he swirled down the drain.  Doc was completely opposite--competed like crazy and kept trying to the bitter end.  I agreed with Dr. Tom's decision to make a change at that point, but it wasn't about lack of effort.  You must not have been at any of the practices I went to.  Doc  never quit, and it's a pathetic cheap shot to suggest he did. 

[CrazyforNUHOOPS]

I'm sorry that a few of you are insulted, but the complete lack of recruiting success here his final two seasons was embarrassing. The diminished level of effort and positive energy on and off the court from when he started to when he finished was extremely noticeable. For as much as he was making, I have no sympathy for the "getting beat down" excuse that many seem eager to hand him. I don't know - If it was all Mountain Dew driven, then he should have kept chugging the stuff because that was not a very good coach in any way, shape, or form that walked out of the athletic department with a handsome treasure chest in tow. At least when he started, he inspired some gritty play to overcome his other deficiencies. When he gave up on that, there was nothing left at all and his extension rates as one of NU's worst decisions in a decade filled with some doozies.

People ridicule Bill Callahan and I can see legitimate reasons for it, but you can never say that he wasn't trying with all he had. I respect the man for that and have wished him well ever since. I just do not have the same respect for Doc. When you pass a certain level of income, I think the expectations for commitment, effort, and devotion to the job raise to an extreme level. He seems quite personable, but I think he dropped the ball on those expectations when things did not break his way and would be surprised if he did not do so again. I think he would do well to continue as an assistant or operations person where the expectations are not so high.

Well, Southern Miss can at least save on their basketball budget as some of us can recall the ever successful Doc philosophy of having multiple practices without them.

That might just be the worst post in the history of this board. Callahan had disdain for Nebraska and Nebraskans, and you praise him. He refused to even wear anything with Husker colors his last 2 months. He made more than Doc, and at the end just wanted to show off his offense no matter how bad we got beat. His own ego ruled as he swirled down the drain. Doc was completely opposite--competed like crazy and kept trying to the bitter end. I agreed with Dr. Tom's decision to make a change at that point, but it wasn't about lack of effort. You must not have been at any of the practices I went to. Doc never quit, and it's a pathetic cheap shot to suggest he did.

This is spot on, HB!!

[Red Dane]

HB, I would not say your post is the worst I have read, but I really am not surprised you disagree as I think many/most Husker fans probably share your mindset and it is an enabling mindset that leads to NU getting less for its spending in the major sports than just about any school out there. Effort, to me, does not come from yelling loudly during 20 hours of limited practice and picking the right red shirt at one's closet. That is 20 hours a week and it is easy. Games are 6 hours and people that can use a white board effectively are a dime a dozen (certainly not every has this talent, but many do). Yet it seems to be what the folks of North Platte, Fremont, Bellevue and Stromsburg etc fixate upon at the morning diner.

 

To me, the effort we need is there, but also in designing effective practices and systems in every detail of the program. More than that, effort is primarily recruiting. That is the next 50 hours we need from a coach that week. Getting out on the trail. Finding all the talent. Selling the program to recruits and the public at all times, and hounding the best players you can get until they are here. You don't like Callahan, but do you deny he was relentless in this aspect? Would you deny that Doc was not and that the effort and results waned the longer he was here?

 

It's part of why Tim Miles is dynamic and worth the money. Take away that enthusiasm, investment, and drive to get good players here and you end up with... post extension Doc. A guy no longer worth that money. My issue is not that Doc was not a success, but that he started off showing that he could be and then slipped and never bothered to get back at it. We weren't fools to be excited about Doc at the start. If you liked what you were getting at the end...

 

 

[jimmykc]

Red Dane: Everyone can have his own opinion but it appears you have an ax to grind concerning Sadler. He is easy to poke fun at, which I have done on occasion, but to imply he "gave up" because he wanted his severance pay seems a bit over the top. Rather than acting as if he wasn't trying to win, he appeared to my eyes to be a man worn down by his lack of success. Certainly he did not set the level of his own salary and who wants to make less money for whatever they do. The last sports person who asked his boss for a pay cut because he was unhappy by his own performance was Ted Williams in the '50's. So it's ok to bash both Callahan and Doc for their obvious lack of victories, but to say either "quit trying to win" is ludicrous. Personally I expect any individual to try to achieve excellence in their daily endeavor irregardless of their salary. And the correct spelling is s-h-y-s-t-e-r if you use the word again.

[atskooc]

The correct spelling is r-e-g-a-r-d-l-e-s-s, if you use the word again.

[Red Dane]

Thanks for the spelling help, jimmy.

What was it that gave you the perception he was warn down? I suspect you may have seen exactly what I did, but are just being kinder.

I agree - can't blame a guy for taking the money. I just think once you do, you need to back it up with an effort that never appears "warn down". If you don't, it makes a random fan unhappy and the guy that gave it to you look like a fool. I suppose that's not so great a price.

[HuskerFever]

I had a relationship once where I put so much into it, but I was never getting anything reciprocated from the other end. The effort never waned on my end, but the energy certainly did. When things aren't working out smoothly, you're faced with challenges and it begins to wear you down. Unfortunately in Doc's case, he didn't have [[insert reasons here]] and he struggled to get results. In this example, all Doc and I wanted in our "relationships" was to dance. However, both scenarios ended in broken hearts. The fact that Doc had a "prenup" is irrelevant. Things just didn't work out, and that happens.

[jimmykc]

Ok Red Dane, I get your point but be careful not to link expectations to paycheck or the next time your house catches on fire our grossly underpaid firefighters might not care to put it out. And thanks for the grammar help, atskooc, I've made the same mistake for the past 50 years. I'm not fond of spelling police either as long as the message gets through but I made the correction for all of the lawyers in the audience.

[Red Dane]

I live in Omaha. Our firefighters retire with Sadler-esque packages.

I will forgive my own employees, others, and myself many (most) deficiencies, but lack of effort is one I just personally have an issue with. A firefighter that fiddles while my house burns would draw an angry email to the mayor and fire chief from this guy.

[Norm Peterson]

I live in Omaha. Our firefighters retire with Sadler-esque packages.

I will forgive my own employees, others, and myself many (most) deficiencies, but lack of effort is one I just personally have an issue with. A firefighter that fiddles while my house burns would draw an angry email to the mayor and fire chief from this guy.

You just better utupshay on the olitical talkpay or someone will get his antiespay in a unchbay.  Just ayinsay.