weak a$$ student section

[#GATA]

I do have to say, the miniature dachshund fathead that one of the students holds is pretty funny.  He's usually behind the hoop in the first row.  Anyone else notice this?

[jimmykc]

Yes, I have mentioned the weiner and the Keebler elf in another thread. I am awaiting the Bruce Dern head in full "Nebraska" mode as the next great brick inducer. I wonder if the people sitting behind the fatheads have trouble seeing though?

[Huskerpapa]

I do have to say, the miniature dachshund fathead that one of the students holds is pretty funny.  He's usually behind the hoop in the first row.  Anyone else notice this?

Yes...and I also agree that a few more of those, well placed of course, would help a bit with our home court advantage.

[Section_316]

I feel like a part of the game, but I am not sure those around me do. Great point about many in the upper levels eating food and chilling out. I am standing & yelling almost every big opportunity & often times feel out of place, o well, I will keep doing it & hope that this Bank grows as the team does

[hhcmatt]

http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/mailbag/letter-students-lack-passion/article_90f8556a-d9fb-571e-ad0c-2d5d90c22f27.html?comment_form=true

[REDZONEDAN]

I like the fatheads.  I agree that the just the Eichorst fathead isn't funny.  Put it next to a Shermanator fathead, and to me that would be funny.

[49r]

http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/mailbag/letter-students-lack-passion/article_90f8556a-d9fb-571e-ad0c-2d5d90c22f27.html?comment_form=true

 

I thought this line from the comments section was funny:

 

Conference starts in 2 weeks and if you know anything, that's when the students come out in doves

[49r]

 

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections. I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty. There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas. Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord. Does anyone go up to those sections after the game? I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

For those that sit up there, do you feel like you're a part of the game? Serious question. I want to know your perspective, your take on how it feels to sit up there. For me, sitting down in the lower bowl, I almost forget about the 2nd and 3rd decks because I can't really see them and there seems to be a separation between lower bowl and the upstairs people. I haven't sat in the 200 (or 300) level yet and maybe if I did I would think differently. I'm in row 22 and with the configuration being straight up i can't turn around and see anybody above and behind me. Everything is blocked by the bottom of the decks. Looking across the arena and up, I can see people up there but they are so high, and with all of the smoke for the lights, it literally looks as if they are sitting in the clouds and appear further away than they really are. I've not experienced a game from up above, but I have walked up to that concourse to look around. I know from the 3rd deck, and this was from row 1, that you can't see the last 10 rows at least of the lower bowl. And that is if you look straight down and not at the court. This all might seem like jibberish and nonsense, but what I'm getting at here is that we've heard all about the arena's ability to be loud. But is the design itself creating a disconnect between fans in the 100, 200, and 300 levels? Is there enough separation that fans in one area can't see/hear/feel energy and react accordingly to what fans are doing in another portion of the arena? Even in Devaney the last few years, with as little excitement that's been produced, there were still moments where the entire mass was enthused to the point of standing and cheering, the kind of moment where you just feel the energy and everyone rises at once. I've been at every game this year and I've yet to experience that at the new arena.

 

 

Yeah!  It's like Statler and Waldorf up there.

 

[Silverbacked1]

Okay which one is Norm and which one is me?

[Handy Johnson]

I'll be sittin' in the 300s on Saturday, but the 10 Bongwater Kamikazes I'm havin pre-game should have me "lubed up" enough.

[Cousin Mose]

The UNL Student section must be one guy reading a newspaper if Creighton's student section is what the author of the opinion piece is trying to emulate.

[jimmykc]

If a Bruce Dern fathead isn't available, then a Heisenberg one would do. Or if the students are just doing random distracting things, why not have a whole section shave their heads, get black hats and glasses and form a Breaking Bad section behind the basket. It would be better than clowns.

[Nighthawk]

 

http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/mailbag/letter-students-lack-passion/article_90f8556a-d9fb-571e-ad0c-2d5d90c22f27.html?comment_form=true

 

I thought this line from the comments section was funny:

 

Conference starts in 2 weeks and if you know anything, that's when the students come out in doves

 

I'll have to remember to start taking an umbrella to protect myself from dove droppings.

[Norm Peterson]

 

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections. I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty. There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas. Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord. Does anyone go up to those sections after the game? I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

For those that sit up there, do you feel like you're a part of the game? Serious question. I want to know your perspective, your take on how it feels to sit up there. For me, sitting down in the lower bowl, I almost forget about the 2nd and 3rd decks because I can't really see them and there seems to be a separation between lower bowl and the upstairs people. I haven't sat in the 200 (or 300) level yet and maybe if I did I would think differently. I'm in row 22 and with the configuration being straight up i can't turn around and see anybody above and behind me. Everything is blocked by the bottom of the decks. Looking across the arena and up, I can see people up there but they are so high, and with all of the smoke for the lights, it literally looks as if they are sitting in the clouds and appear further away than they really are. I've not experienced a game from up above, but I have walked up to that concourse to look around. I know from the 3rd deck, and this was from row 1, that you can't see the last 10 rows at least of the lower bowl. And that is if you look straight down and not at the court. This all might seem like jibberish and nonsense, but what I'm getting at here is that we've heard all about the arena's ability to be loud. But is the design itself creating a disconnect between fans in the 100, 200, and 300 levels? Is there enough separation that fans in one area can't see/hear/feel energy and react accordingly to what fans are doing in another portion of the arena? Even in Devaney the last few years, with as little excitement that's been produced, there were still moments where the entire mass was enthused to the point of standing and cheering, the kind of moment where you just feel the energy and everyone rises at once. I've been at every game this year and I've yet to experience that at the new arena.

 

I think I've said it before and, believe me, I'm not complaining when I say this because it is what it is, but there is a physical barrier separating the lower bowl area including the arena floor and the upper parts of the arena.  It'd be like watching practice from behind the window in Miles' office.  You can see the action but you're not a part of it.  People in the lower bowl are a part of the action.  People in the upper levels are not.  I think the physical separation creates a psychological separation as well.  People probably think, "you can't hear me (and I know I can barely hear the cheerleaders) so what's the point in yelling?"

 

Having said that, the seats are kinda growing on me.  I think I mentioned this before, too.  Yeah, I'm further away but I'm adjusting and no longer think my seats are as horrible as I did at first.  I can live with them.  But, still, I know I'd be making more noise if I was in the lower bowl and I'm certain the people around me are probably the same way.

[hugh42]

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections.  I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty.  There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas.  Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord.  Does anyone go up to those sections after the game?  I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

 

When I first read your post I thought it was sarcasm, but obviously not the case.  I've been to every game but two (SCS & AR St.) and sit in the 300 section.  From my perspective the energy level in the 200 and 300 sections isn't any worse than the lower bowl.  In fact, the folks that sit in these sections tend to show up much earlier for the game and tend to stay to the end.  I come from Kearney, folks next to me are from McCook and I'm sure there are quite a few others that come from outside of Lincoln.  Frankly, I don't know how anyone can be watching the game and at the same time be watching the crowd upstairs to see how they are responding to the action on the floor.  Regarding the smoke, do you think the fans are producing it?  PBA has an issue with ventilation for concessions, thus the smoke.  Thankfully, it doesn't inhibit the view where I sit, but may in other parts of the arena.

[Nighthawk]

I keep telling my dad that is smoke up there in the 300 and is used for the lights. He says its humidity released to try to cool the upper section.

[ajb5856]

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections. I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty. There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas. Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord. Does anyone go up to those sections after the game? I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

When I first read your post I thought it was sarcasm, but obviously not the case. I've been to every game but two (SCS & AR St.) and sit in the 300 section. From my perspective the energy level in the 200 and 300 sections isn't any worse than the lower bowl. In fact, the folks that sit in these sections tend to show up much earlier for the game and tend to stay to the end. I come from Kearney, folks next to me are from McCook and I'm sure there are quite a few others that come from outside of Lincoln. Frankly, I don't know how anyone can be watching the game and at the same time be watching the crowd upstairs to see how they are responding to the action on the floor. Regarding the smoke, do you think the fans are producing it? PBA has an issue with ventilation for concessions, thus the smoke. Thankfully, it doesn't inhibit the view where I sit, but may in other parts of the arena.

The smoke is on purpose and is indeed for the lights. As for the energy levels in the 100/200/300 levels, my earlier post wasn't questioning energy levels or even trying to compare energy levels between the levels, but rather asking the question if having three separate sections made it harder to create a unified electricity compared to the single mass we had at Devaney. What do you guys think? Is it like we have three separate venues within the one?

[Huskerpapa]

 

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections.  I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty.  There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas.  Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord.  Does anyone go up to those sections after the game?  I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

 

When I first read your post I thought it was sarcasm, but obviously not the case.  I've been to every game but two (SCS & AR St.) and sit in the 300 section.  From my perspective the energy level in the 200 and 300 sections isn't any worse than the lower bowl.  In fact, the folks that sit in these sections tend to show up much earlier for the game and tend to stay to the end.  I come from Kearney, folks next to me are from McCook and I'm sure there are quite a few others that come from outside of Lincoln.  Frankly, I don't know how anyone can be watching the game and at the same time be watching the crowd upstairs to see how they are responding to the action on the floor.  Regarding the smoke, do you think the fans are producing it?  PBA has an issue with ventilation for concessions, thus the smoke.  Thankfully, it doesn't inhibit the view where I sit, but may in other parts of the arena.

 

It was sarcasm in response to Norm dissing the 100 section.  My tongue was firmly in my cheek...

[hugh42]

 

 

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections. I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty. There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas. Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord. Does anyone go up to those sections after the game? I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

When I first read your post I thought it was sarcasm, but obviously not the case. I've been to every game but two (SCS & AR St.) and sit in the 300 section. From my perspective the energy level in the 200 and 300 sections isn't any worse than the lower bowl. In fact, the folks that sit in these sections tend to show up much earlier for the game and tend to stay to the end. I come from Kearney, folks next to me are from McCook and I'm sure there are quite a few others that come from outside of Lincoln. Frankly, I don't know how anyone can be watching the game and at the same time be watching the crowd upstairs to see how they are responding to the action on the floor. Regarding the smoke, do you think the fans are producing it? PBA has an issue with ventilation for concessions, thus the smoke. Thankfully, it doesn't inhibit the view where I sit, but may in other parts of the arena.

The smoke is on purpose and is indeed for the lights. As for the energy levels in the 100/200/300 levels, my earlier post wasn't questioning energy levels or even trying to compare energy levels between the levels, but rather asking the question if having three separate sections made it harder to create a unified electricity compared to the single mass we had at Devaney. What do you guys think? Is it like we have three separate venues within the one?

 

 

Thanks for the clarification on the smoke, shows how much I know about creating an 'atmosphere'.  

 

Regarding your question, IMO, I don't think the design of PBA hinders fan involvement.  We are all watching the same game and reacting to the same plays.  The energy was pretty good for FGCU and Miami and should only improve once we start conference play.

[hugh42]

 

 

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections.  I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty.  There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas.  Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord.  Does anyone go up to those sections after the game?  I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

 

When I first read your post I thought it was sarcasm, but obviously not the case.  I've been to every game but two (SCS & AR St.) and sit in the 300 section.  From my perspective the energy level in the 200 and 300 sections isn't any worse than the lower bowl.  In fact, the folks that sit in these sections tend to show up much earlier for the game and tend to stay to the end.  I come from Kearney, folks next to me are from McCook and I'm sure there are quite a few others that come from outside of Lincoln.  Frankly, I don't know how anyone can be watching the game and at the same time be watching the crowd upstairs to see how they are responding to the action on the floor.  Regarding the smoke, do you think the fans are producing it?  PBA has an issue with ventilation for concessions, thus the smoke.  Thankfully, it doesn't inhibit the view where I sit, but may in other parts of the arena.

 

It was sarcasm in response to Norm dissing the 100 section.  My tongue was firmly in my cheek...

 

 

Noted.  I think I'll quit for tonight before the hole I'm in gets any deeper.

[jimmykc]

I don't know whether I'll ever attend a game at the Pinnacle if I have to sit in the upper section. This is not a tongue in cheek comment, but I wonder if anyone has studied the possible toxic effects of the smoke. It is firmly established that secondary cigarette smoke can cause neoplasia, thus the ban in all public venues now. Has anyone studied whether there is any long term health risk in sitting in this section for several years? Just wondering.

[Silverbacked1]

I think it is theatrical smoke which is a kind of a water based mist that they use in plays, concerts, ect... It is suppose to be harmless and doesn't cause health issues.

Also doesn't stink or cause caughing fits from the audience. Or at least suppose to.

[Nighthawk]

I think it is theatrical smoke which is a kind of a water based mist that they use in plays, concerts, ect... It is suppose to be harmless and doesn't cause health issues.

Also doesn't stink or cause caughing fits from the audience. Or at least suppose to.

haha...the only smell i get in the area is the smell of burning grease from the food areas that does not vent out of the building very well.

[Handy Johnson]

Speaking of "smoke" you guys are harshin' my mellow. Once the Conference schedule starts all will be forgotten/forgiven.

[Norm Peterson]

 

 

I actually think the problem stems from the lack of noise and engagement in the 200 and 300 sections.  I look up to those sections and see rows of empty seats and complete sections that are almost empty.  There is no noise coming from there and it simply appears that they show up just to eat food and convert it to gas.  Have you noticed the smoke coming from those sections, good lord.  Does anyone go up to those sections after the game?  I swear, most of them have to be awakened from their collective slumber.

 

When I first read your post I thought it was sarcasm, but obviously not the case.  I've been to every game but two (SCS & AR St.) and sit in the 300 section.  From my perspective the energy level in the 200 and 300 sections isn't any worse than the lower bowl.  In fact, the folks that sit in these sections tend to show up much earlier for the game and tend to stay to the end.  I come from Kearney, folks next to me are from McCook and I'm sure there are quite a few others that come from outside of Lincoln.  Frankly, I don't know how anyone can be watching the game and at the same time be watching the crowd upstairs to see how they are responding to the action on the floor.  Regarding the smoke, do you think the fans are producing it?  PBA has an issue with ventilation for concessions, thus the smoke.  Thankfully, it doesn't inhibit the view where I sit, but may in other parts of the arena.

 

It was sarcasm in response to Norm dissing the 100 section.  My tongue was firmly in my cheek...

 

Now, to be fair, I wasn't dissing the 100 level.  I was dissing the people who ate up the 100 level seats and then don't show up for the games.  But, second, I think your point was fair even if it was tongue-in-cheek.  I've noticed there seems to be this structural separation between the lower bowl (including the floor) and everyone else.  It's almost like people in the upper sections are watching people watch a basketball game.  Like we're spectators of the spectators.  I used to yell at refs and stuff because I think they could hear me.  No more.  I used to try to get everyone in the crowd up and making noise by standing and waiving my arms in an upward motion.  Now, the only people who see me are two people testing out their oxygen bottles for their next ascent up Mt. Everest.  But that's the structure that we have and as I indicated previously, I'm getting used to my view and I'm OK with it.

 

Still, I think that Marc Boehm should be taking attendance.  And even if he doesn't punish those who don't show up by giving their seats to someone else, I still think he should reward those who go to every or nearly every game by giving them some perks.  Give me a voucher for some food or let me sit in a luxury box at some point or, I don't know, something.  Incentivize showing up.  I thought changing the donation structure would change the make up of the crowd a bit.  Football fans who aren't really interested in basketball aren't incentivized to gobble up the great seats.  But it appears that might have been wishful thinking because, every game, I've seen big clumps of Husker basketball fans in the lower bowl coming dressed as empty seats.