Nebraska (23-11) vs. Oregon St. (25-7) Game Thread

[HuskerWmn]

39 minutes ago, Bugeaters1 said:

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!! NO FOUL?
 

Not even a makeup call

[mwm89]

Unfortunate that a player like Shelley could not perform a little better in the ncaa's so perhaps she would feel a little better as she ends her career here.  I know she's a team player so ultimately she won't look at it that way.  I'm sure the others returning will remember this game and this feeling and it will motivate them moving forward!  GBR!! 

[Huskerpapa]

58 minutes ago, redsteve said:

 

Was thinking the same thing at the half time. All these competitive teams have two or three athletic players at 6-3, 6-4 or more in some cases. 

It's already started, and It's just the way women's basketball is going to be in the future...bigger ...and bigger...and bigger.

 

 

We had Maggie, or so we thought we did.  I agree another big is a necessity.   Of course there are likely a hundred teams out there looking for the same thing.

[whoopdeedoo]

i agree. williams needs to find that 6'3"-6'5" athletic player if you want to take it to another level. one that can play on both ends of the court. it's difficult because most of them head for the blue blood programs.

 

not so sure maggie was the answer.

Edited March 24, 2024 by whoopdeedoo

[Huskerpapa]

14 minutes ago, whoopdeedoo said:

i agree. williams needs to find that 6'3"-6'5" athletic player if you want to take it to another level. one that can play on both ends of the court. it's difficult because most of them head for the blue blood programs.

 

not so sure maggie was the answer.

Maggie was a top recruit coming in, her primary focus was obviously volleyball and thus, her development stalled.  She then quit the team/program leaving our depth lacking.  In my humble opinion,  her absence affected our depth and possibly the outcome of some of our games.

Edited March 24, 2024 by Huskerpapa

[Tom Jones]

IMO, the Huskers did not play as badly as the score late in the 4th quarter might make it seem.  Defense played well enough to win.  There are always lots of factors, but the three that I think stand out are 3) shooting overall, three pt shooting in particular, and 3) blocked shots.  1) yes, the fade aways have seldom worked and AM could have passed off instead of taking some of the desperation shots, but a lot of quality open look shots didn't go.   2)  if three of the misses had gone thru, it's an even game.  3) Some of the blocked shots looked like sure scores ... right up until the block.  

 

The game has become SO physical and the physicality is so inconsistently ignored vs foul called .. so much that teams have to have some players who want to be bangers and to have the mass to back it up  - and really we don't.  Had Mendelson been in the lane today - or against A&M - she would have been a bowling pin. 

 

Loved having Jazz.  Just loved it. Too bad her last two games lacked the sparkle that she had become known for. 

 

I think that, personnel wise, the Huskers will be marginally better next year* and markedly better if Amy can add a banger with some heft and/or a long fast slasher. 

 

* losing Shelly, Krull, and White while adding Weidner, Prince, and Williams and a year of development for Hake, Potts, and Nissley will be a net gain.  

 

Maybe there will be more emphasis on adding dribble penetration to the offense and cutting down a bit on reliance on the three. 

 

[arliepro]

19 minutes ago, Tom Jones said:

IMO, the Huskers did not play as badly as the score late in the 4th quarter might make it seem.  Defense played well enough to win.  There are always lots of factors, but the three that I think stand out are 3) shooting overall, three pt shooting in particular, and 3) blocked shots.  1) yes, the fade aways have seldom worked and AM could have passed off instead of taking some of the desperation shots, but a lot of quality open look shots didn't go.   2)  if three of the misses had gone thru, it's an even game.  3) Some of the blocked shots looked like sure scores ... right up until the block.  

 

The game has become SO physical and the physicality is so inconsistently ignored vs foul called .. so much that teams have to have some players who want to be bangers and to have the mass to back it up  - and really we don't.  Had Mendelson been in the lane today - or against A&M - she would have been a bowling pin. 

 

Loved having Jazz.  Just loved it. Too bad her last two games lacked the sparkle that she had become known for. 

 

I think that, personnel wise, the Huskers will be marginally better next year* and markedly better if Amy can add a banger with some heft and/or a long fast slasher. 

 

* losing Shelly, Krull, and White while adding Weidner, Prince, and Williams and a year of development for Hake, Potts, and Nissley will be a net gain.  

 

Maybe there will be more emphasis on adding dribble penetration to the offense and cutting down a bit on reliance on the three. 

 

Adding Amiah Hargrove could be a big factor too.

[Huskerpapa]

20 minutes ago, Tom Jones said:

IMO, the Huskers did not play as badly as the score late in the 4th quarter might make it seem.  Defense played well enough to win.  There are always lots of factors, but the three that I think stand out are 3) shooting overall, three pt shooting in particular, and 3) blocked shots.  1) yes, the fade aways have seldom worked and AM could have passed off instead of taking some of the desperation shots, but a lot of quality open look shots didn't go.   2)  if three of the misses had gone thru, it's an even game.  3) Some of the blocked shots looked like sure scores ... right up until the block.  

 

The game has become SO physical and the physicality is so inconsistently ignored vs foul called .. so much that teams have to have some players who want to be bangers and to have the mass to back it up  - and really we don't.  Had Mendelson been in the lane today - or against A&M - she would have been a bowling pin. 

 

Loved having Jazz.  Just loved it. Too bad her last two games lacked the sparkle that she had become known for. 

 

I think that, personnel wise, the Huskers will be marginally better next year* and markedly better if Amy can add a banger with some heft and/or a long fast slasher. 

 

* losing Shelly, Krull, and White while adding Weidner, Prince, and Williams and a year of development for Hake, Potts, and Nissley will be a net gain.  

 

Maybe there will be more emphasis on adding dribble penetration to the offense and cutting down a bit on reliance on the three. 

 

And don't forget Amiah...

 

Hargrove, a 6-2 wing at Christopher High School in Illinois, averaged 24.7 points, 9.7 rebounds, 1.4 assists , 2.2 steals and 1.3 blocks while hitting 62.8 percent of her shots from the field and 85 percent of her free throws as a junior in 2022-23.

[Bugeaters1]

Here is the +/- from the today.

https://storage.googleapis.com/huskers-com-prod/2024/03/24/lTSInpr8XjJRuZttFfoja3n9IbMazMe2FBNygyHI.pdf

[Tom Jones]

1 hour ago, arliepro said:

Adding Amiah Hargrove could be a big factor too.

YES!  I made that point a while back but neglected to include it tonight.  If she comes along as quickly as Potts and Nissley, she is another asset.  Seems like a long wait till November. 

[caveman]

Next year......really depends how Weidner comes back.  If she comes back 100%, we get serious upgrade athletically.  She and Prince can really pick em up and put down.

[redsteve]

Not sure where this goes, but...

 

Agree with most of the points made here. Good stuff.

 

The tournament play was way more physical, and to some extent quicker, than we faced all year. We, at this point aren't ready for it. Maybe that's the lesson learned this year.  In some ways that's a good thing.... learned the hard way. But we got that chance to see what's really like playing in the "big time"...just getting there. 

All the B1G teams has the same issues. Week in and week out, we don't see physically  "tough" teams. 

 

The teams coming in to the B1G, in the next couple of years may have their way with the rest of the B1G ...at first.  The B1G may have to adapt to them...not the other way around. 

 

A lot more thug stuff in a lot of games I watched, not just our games. Near fights in many games. Trash talking, knocking people down (we did receive some of that)  Pott's got pushed around and had her own little protest late in the game. 

 

If that's the way it's going to be in national tourneys, then we have get much tougher....or not.  

 

Another issue is getting shots off when under "stress". Much tougher to do in the NCAA's. The B1G is much less defensive minded. Easier to get set and shoot.  

 

And...lastly, opposing coaches had prepared defenses to neutralize our scorers, and executed their defense in a workman like manner. Good coaching, with a team that could adapt overnight.

 

This was a great experience for out team. I expect they have grown up to the realities of high level play...and maybe us to a lesser extent. 

Edited March 25, 2024 by redsteve

[Huskerpapa]

14 hours ago, caveman said:

Next year......really depends how Weidner comes back.  If she comes back 100%, we get serious upgrade athletically.  She and Prince can really pick em up and put down.

Allison is a tough s.o.b.  she will add toughness for sure.  That said, I'm not sure where we place expectations.  Two major knee surgeries are tough on anyone; but especially tough on an athlete.

My expectation will not be high, as that is unfair to her.  If anyone can thrive post two surgeries, it is her though.

[AuroranHusker]

Weidner will be a factor, the extent of how many minutes she's able to endure will determine the trajectory of this team next season. Not to put pressure on her, but she's a key cog in the way that Jaz Shelley was this past season. GBR Always.

 

[All About the Corn]

I would not be surprised to see Weidner come off the bench to start the season. 

[whoopdeedoo]

apologize if this has been posted previously...i didn't come across the article in posts i read.

was not aware Nissley has had foot issues since a junior in high school. 

she will have surgery again...

 

https://hurrdatsports.com/nebraska-womens-basketball/logan-nissley-battles-through-injury-in-earning-key-role-for-huskers-as-freshman/

[Cazzie22]

2 hours ago, whoopdeedoo said:

apologize if this has been posted previously...i didn't come across the article in posts i read.

was not aware Nissley has had foot issues since a junior in high school. 

she will have surgery again...

 

https://hurrdatsports.com/nebraska-womens-basketball/logan-nissley-battles-through-injury-in-earning-key-role-for-huskers-as-freshman/

Dang. I hope she is ready by fall camp.  I hope she recovers completely.

[Huskerpapa]

Likely answers questions some may have had about her game minutes.

[Bugeaters1]

Likely answers questions some may have had about her game minutes.

The things we don't know. But think we do.

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[HUD]

I followed Logan watching some of her games online after she committed to NU.  I remember reading about her unusual foot surgeries thinking to my self that I hope her high school injury issues don't follow her to college like Taylor Kissingers did.  I remember Amy saying something after she got here about making sure she was fully recovered but didn't go into more detail.  I thought maybe her slow start was due to limited conditioning opportunities and the jump from high school to college.  She is obviously a big cog in our teams future and hope all goes well for her during her recovery.

[Fastbreaker]

6 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

Allison is a tough s.o.b.  she will add toughness for sure.  That said, I'm not sure where we place expectations.  Two major knee surgeries are tough on anyone; but especially tough on an athlete.

My expectation will not be high, as that is unfair to her.  If anyone can thrive post two surgeries, it is her though.

Paige Bueckers of UCONN had knee surgeries on two different  legs over two years and is an all American this year.  I expect Weidner will be ok