So, next year's starting lineup.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

Starters:

1. Watson

2. Gill or Webster

3. White

4. Jacobson or Morrow

5. Jacobson or Tshimanga

Bench:

Gill or Webster

Roby

McVeigh

Horne

That's ten deep right there, dude.

Fuller is going to be the "worst" scholarship player next year. That's going to be a nice change of pace. This is the situation where it'd make sense to take an instate kid who might need a couple of years before he'd be ready.

Would Arop be an example of this?

 

 

Pretty sure he's referring to David Wingett...

[hal9000]

Maybe not game 1 of the season, but by the time the Big Ten portion of the schedule comes:

1- Watson

2- Gill

3- White

4- Morrow

5- Tshimanga

This seems to be the most Big Ten worthy lineup. 

[colhusker]

Guard- Watson/Webster/Gill

Guard- Gill/Webster/Roby

Scoring forward- White/McVeigh/Fuller

Power forward- Morrow/Jacobson/Horne/Fuller

Center-Jacobson/Jordy/Morrow

This looks about right to me

[uneblinstu]

 

 

 

Starters:

1. Watson

2. Gill or Webster

3. White

4. Jacobson or Morrow

5. Jacobson or Tshimanga

Bench:

Gill or Webster

Roby

McVeigh

Horne

That's ten deep right there, dude.

Fuller is going to be the "worst" scholarship player next year. That's going to be a nice change of pace. This is the situation where it'd make sense to take an instate kid who might need a couple of years before he'd be ready.

Would Arop be an example of this?

 

 

Pretty sure he's referring to David Wingett...

 

Sure, either of those two, but they're not seniors this year. There's a player or two every year in the state that could meet that standard.

[Norm Peterson]

 

Guard- Watson/Webster/Gill

Guard- Gill/Webster/Roby

Scoring forward- White/McVeigh/Fuller

Power forward- Morrow/Jacobson/Horne/Fuller

Center-Jacobson/Jordy/Morrow

This looks about right to me

 

I would add Roby to the list at "scoring forward." 

[Norm Peterson]

Giving this some thought, I think there's only a couple of people that you can write into the starting lineup in ink.

 

I think Glynn starts at point and Andrew starts at small forward.  Other than that, I think things are up for grabs.

 

I could see how Anton Gill could give you more offensive firepower at the 2-guard spot, but I think Tai is a lockdown defender who is the best on the team at stopping dribble penetration.  And Tai brings pretty good offensive ability to the table, especially if he picks up where he left off at the end of last season.  What Gill brings you that Tai doesn't is the guy who will take those looks that I've been complaining about players not taking for what seems like years now.  Gill will shoot with a hand in his face.  He has the ability to go up in traffic and get a perimeter shot off without a lot of space.  Gill on the floor opens things up for White to get his preferred catch-and-shoot kinds of looks, which is a higher percentage look for him.

 

Jordy is an X factor.  Obviously, you want his size to hold down the paint, rebound and protect the rim.  No one else on the roster has that.  But is he ready for the speed of the college game when he looks raw-ish in the prep school game?  I've said before, I think he'll have a steep learning curve, by which I mean I think he'll improve quickly.  Enough to start?  Almost certainly not off the bat.  Maybe by mid-season.  And what happens with Jordy affects what happens with Jacobson.  It's possible Jacobson is, right now, the best option as either a "power forward" or as a post.  He's probably more naturally a power forward, a guy who picks and pops or faces up from mid-range but maybe not a lot of back-to-the-basket stuff.  I think the question we're going to end up asking is whether we're better with the combo of Jordy-Jacobson or Jacobson-Morrow (or even Jacobson-Horne or Jacobson-McVeigh.)  I think it's probable that Jacobson starts but less absolutely certain which spot he occupies.

 

I expect one or two of the freshmen will leapfrog a returning player or two and get into the primary rotations but yet to see whether any of them will start.  I'd keep my eye on Jeriah Horne, though.  He's my dark horse, so to speak, by which I mean the long shot who has a chance to win.

[Huskerpapa]

I am not convinced (although it is close) that Glynn is a lock as the starting PG.  We have enough talent that the players have to do more than just show up.  The speech goes something like this:  You better bring your "A" game every time you arrive at a lifting session, a practice or a game, if not, you are going to be beaten out for playing time. 

[AuroranHusker]

I'm generally more concerned with finishers, minutes, and producers instead of who starts a particular game. Will be very intriguing to see how it all transpires in 2016-17.

[TourneyBound]

I think Jacobson is a lock to start whether it is power forward or center.  I know Morrow showed some flashes but he has a ways to go to jump Jacobson in my opinion

[ajb5856]

I think Jacobson is a lock to start whether it is power forward or center. I know Morrow showed some flashes but he has a ways to go to jump Jacobson in my opinion

The flashes that Morrow showed was when he was about 60% healthy if that. If Morrow can stay injury free then look out. It's hard to put Jacobson and Morrow in the same boat since they are such different players. I realize they compete for time but once Morrow is healthy his minutes will depend much more on matchup and what Miles is wanting to do versus a direct battle between Morrow and Jacobson.

[Hooper]

I'd be pretty shocked if Glynn doesn't start at the PG spot. Of course, Tai can play the 1 and, without a back-up PG, he's going to be playing a lot of both guard spots this year, but especially given the anticipated evolution of Glynn's game over the off-season, I just don't see another player on the roster who offers what he does, and with Benny gone, it's really Glynn's show to run now. He's the straw that stirs the drink, so to speak. Everyone benefits from his court vision and ability to distribute. Plus, he rarely turns it over, which is obviously key to playing that position.

 

I feel we're going to see a myriad of different line-ups in the early part of the season while Miles and Co. accumulate statistics on various line-up configurations and gauge their effectiveness. 

 

I also agree with Norm and others who've said not to sleep on Jeriah Horne. Horne does a lot of things well and is extremely versatile. He's a really intriguing player to watch, and he's coming to Lincoln with a far more well-rounded and advanced all-around game than Ed Morrow.

 

I love the depth and versatility on the roster this year. We have a wide array of options in terms of the five guys we can put on the court and now have the chess pieces to match up with any team in the league physically. We can go smaller and quicker against certain teams and then put a much bigger, more physical group out there when we're facing a more formidable front court, like Purdue from last year.

 

We're not going to be seeing the type of physical dominance against us that we had to stomach last year. Jordy may be inexperienced at this level, and there will be a sizable learning curve for him, but at 270 lbs., with a 7-foot-5-inch wingspan, teams are going to know he's there.

 

It should be a really exciting season. I'd love to see the program take a big step forward next season, and I feel it will.

[75unlgrad]

Kansas recruited Andrew White as a '2 guard' and we recruited Andrew as a '2 guard,' his natural position and future NBA position.  We had to move Andrew to small forward because we needed his rebounding.  If coach Miles wants to play Andrew at his natural position, our two-deep rotation would look like this:

 

Point guard:  Watson, Webster

Shooting guard:  White, Gill

Small forward:  McVeigh, Roby (moving White to shooting guard will get Roby on the floor a lot quicker)

Power forward:  Jacobson, Morrow

Center:  Senior transfer post player/Tshimanga

 

I do like having White and Gill on the court at the same time; however, if Roby is as good as advertised, we will need to find a rotation that gets him into the game early.

[uneblinstu]

If Gill is as good as we've told he is, he won't be coming off the bench. You'll want him, White and Watson on the floor as much as possible. Those three should lead the team in minutes played.

[ajb5856]

Kansas recruited Andrew White as a '2 guard' and we recruited Andrew as a '2 guard,' his natural position and future NBA position. We had to move Andrew to small forward because we needed his rebounding. If coach Miles wants to play Andrew at his natural position, our two-deep rotation would look like this:

Point guard: Watson, Webster

Shooting guard: White, Gill

Small forward: McVeigh, Roby (moving White to shooting guard will get Roby on the floor a lot quicker)

Power forward: Jacobson, Morrow

Center: Senior transfer post player/Tshimanga

I do like having White and Gill on the court at the same time; however, if Roby is as good as advertised, we will need to find a rotation that gets him into the game early.

Will be interesting to follow this. If you listened to Andrew White when interviewed by Mike'l Severe the other day he had a bunch of strange comments to me anyways about Miles' offensive and how White will be utilized. White basically said he had unfinished business with Miles about how the offense will be run to best showcase his talents and how they still had to iron that out. I'll have to go back and listen to that again. Maybe it's just White's demeanor or the way he speaks or something but to me a lot of it was weird. He also was asked about returning to Nebraska specifically since he has the option of being a grad transfer and said that for now that is the plan but he will do whatever is best for his career and future plans. Very strange in my mind.

[AuroranHusker]

If Gill is as good as we've told he is, he won't be coming off the bench. You'll want him, White and Watson on the floor as much as possible. Those three should lead the team in minutes played.

 

I concur... Minutes and productivity from those three will be a big key this year.

[Norm Peterson]

Will be interesting to follow this. If you listened to Andrew White when interviewed by Mike'l Severe the other day he had a bunch of strange comments to me anyways about Miles' offensive and how White will be utilized. White basically said he had unfinished business with Miles about how the offense will be run to best showcase his talents and how they still had to iron that out. I'll have to go back and listen to that again. Maybe it's just White's demeanor or the way he speaks or something but to me a lot of it was weird. He also was asked about returning to Nebraska specifically since he has the option of being a grad transfer and said that for now that is the plan but he will do whatever is best for his career and future plans. Very strange in my mind.

 

Hmmmm.

 

Edited to add:  The pause before he answered and the hedging kind of answer he gave makes me think he's willing to make a move if he thinks it's in his best interests.

 

For a coach, you don't want to probably get in the habit of changing what you do to accommodate one player's desire to showcase himself for pro scouts.  No one player is bigger than the team, right?

 

But this might be a bit different. 

 

Miles needs Andrew for the team to be as successful as it could be next season.  We need him on the roster. 

 

It also benefits Miles in terms of recruiting if White gets drafted next year.

 

And, if White does well enough to get drafted, it probably means the team will have done well, too.

 

So, do you run stuff specifically for one guy to improve his draft stock?

 

Maybe in this case you do.

[AuroranHusker]

 

Will be interesting to follow this. If you listened to Andrew White when interviewed by Mike'l Severe the other day he had a bunch of strange comments to me anyways about Miles' offensive and how White will be utilized. White basically said he had unfinished business with Miles about how the offense will be run to best showcase his talents and how they still had to iron that out. I'll have to go back and listen to that again. Maybe it's just White's demeanor or the way he speaks or something but to me a lot of it was weird. He also was asked about returning to Nebraska specifically since he has the option of being a grad transfer and said that for now that is the plan but he will do whatever is best for his career and future plans. Very strange in my mind.

 

Hmmmm.

 

 

I just think that is White's persona at work. He seems to "keep his options open" no matter what the circumstance.

[Silverbacked1]

Hey we are Husker Basball Fans could easily see getting our hearts ripped out yet.

[hal9000]

 

Will be interesting to follow this. If you listened to Andrew White when interviewed by Mike'l Severe the other day he had a bunch of strange comments to me anyways about Miles' offensive and how White will be utilized. White basically said he had unfinished business with Miles about how the offense will be run to best showcase his talents and how they still had to iron that out. I'll have to go back and listen to that again. Maybe it's just White's demeanor or the way he speaks or something but to me a lot of it was weird. He also was asked about returning to Nebraska specifically since he has the option of being a grad transfer and said that for now that is the plan but he will do whatever is best for his career and future plans. Very strange in my mind.

 

Hmmmm.

 

Edited to add:  The pause before he answered and the hedging kind of answer he gave makes me think he's willing to make a move if he thinks it's in his best interests.

 

For a coach, you don't want to probably get in the habit of changing what you do to accommodate one player's desire to showcase himself for pro scouts.  No one player is bigger than the team, right?

 

But this might be a bit different. 

 

Miles needs Andrew for the team to be as successful as it could be next season.  We need him on the roster. 

 

It also benefits Miles in terms of recruiting if White gets drafted next year.

 

And, if White does well enough to get drafted, it probably means the team will have done well, too.

 

So, do you run stuff specifically for one guy to improve his draft stock?

 

Maybe in this case you do.

 

In one of his interviews White was asked how you balance being a team player vs. your individual goal of improving your stock for the NBA.  He said in order for him to get better he needs his teammates.  It serves him well to involve the guys he plays with and by being a senior leader for the team.  

[ajb5856]

Will be interesting to follow this. If you listened to Andrew White when interviewed by Mike'l Severe the other day he had a bunch of strange comments to me anyways about Miles' offensive and how White will be utilized. White basically said he had unfinished business with Miles about how the offense will be run to best showcase his talents and how they still had to iron that out. I'll have to go back and listen to that again. Maybe it's just White's demeanor or the way he speaks or something but to me a lot of it was weird. He also was asked about returning to Nebraska specifically since he has the option of being a grad transfer and said that for now that is the plan but he will do whatever is best for his career and future plans. Very strange in my mind.

Hmmmm.

Edited to add: The pause before he answered and the hedging kind of answer he gave makes me think he's willing to make a move if he thinks it's in his best interests.

For a coach, you don't want to probably get in the habit of changing what you do to accommodate one player's desire to showcase himself for pro scouts. No one player is bigger than the team, right?

But this might be a bit different.

Miles needs Andrew for the team to be as successful as it could be next season. We need him on the roster.

It also benefits Miles in terms of recruiting if White gets drafted next year.

And, if White does well enough to get drafted, it probably means the team will have done well, too.

So, do you run stuff specifically for one guy to improve his draft stock?

Maybe in this case you do.

In one of his interviews White was asked how you balance being a team player vs. your individual goal of improving your stock for the NBA. He said in order for him to get better he needs his teammates. It serves him well to involve the guys he plays with and by being a senior leader for the team.

I see this side of it as well. It was just strange to hear a player speak in terms of me and how the offensive needs to be adjusted to showcase himself. I also agree that if anyone can speak like this and still be a team guy, its White. He's class and maturity all the way.

[Norm Peterson]

That's the funny thing about all of this.  From what Dimes was saying yesterday, Miles was the one saying last year that he wants Andrew to be more of a complete player.

 

Andrew comes back and says the NBA guys want me to be more of a complete player.

 

They want to see him dishing assists rather than having a 1:3 assist-to-turnover ratio.  Does that mean he thinks he needs to have the ball in his hands and initiate the offense from the top of the key?  I don't think that's his game.

 

It sounds like the feedback he got from the NBA guys was along the lines of what Dimes picked up from Miles's comments all last season.

 

So, there shouldn't be any of this "well, we need to iron out my role and his system" etc.

[Huskerpapa]

Last year Drew had holes in his game.  They were evident and sometimes glaring.  Yet if he puts in the work to improve on those areas of need AND continue to exploit the positive points of his game, then we will all see the benefits of that labor.

[hhcmatt]

So, there shouldn't be any of this "well, we need to iron out my role and his system" etc.

 

There is something to this...I haven't quite pieced together what he wants changed on the offense.  I think him going full fledged TP/Talley Point Forward isn't the best for either him nor the team but there is certainly room for him to have more touches. I know that we used to kill TP for those 24 foot shots but AWIII has that range....why is he being chased off the 3pt line to take long 2s or to be taken away in general.  Can accommodating him by spreading out the team more for his range benefit him with more touches and also create more driving lanes?

 

How much did the scouts talk to him about defense?  If he thinks his role in the NBA is 3pt shooter it's not like teams are going to design defenses to hide his liabilities.

[Norm Peterson]

Well, the NBA line is 3 feet beyond the NCAA men's line and I'd love to see Andrew, if he has the range and if it doesn't significantly diminish his efficiency, to be free to take shots from that distance.  Having a guy who can and does take 3s from 24 feet gives defenses that much more ground to cover.  Advantage offense.

[GATA]

I think White absolutely is an NBA type shooter as a catch-and-shoot guy, but he doesn't have the athleticism, handles or passing ability of a 2-guard. I think he might end up more of a 3 due to his physicality and lack of play making skills.

If I were him, I'd put all my focus into defense and dribble-driving as areas of improvement. Right now he's one-dimensional. If he steps up his D, he could be drafted as a 3-and-D guy with potential for more if his handles and passing tighten up.