uneblinstu's Post Game Chatter: Vol 8, Issue 21 - vs. Michigan

[HuskerFever]

...awful, awful refereeing.

 

And you're just referring to some of the calls in our favor. There were a lot of overall bad calls that made the refs look bad.

[Huskerpapa]

The only call I had an issue with was a player control foul called on Shavon.  The player taking the charge was clearly within the half circle, which should automatically go against that player.  Other than that, there seemed to be more touch fouls called against us, and that always seems strange when you are at home.  It is also a bit disturbing when one team has fouls to give at the end of a half.  But again, that is more so the homer in me.

[hhcmatt]

We were driving hard to the rack, though, just like they were.

 

And there was a point in time in the middle of the 2nd half where we'd cut into their lead significantly but they still held a 12/15 to 6/8 FTM/FTA advantage.  Fouls were more or less even, but when they were getting calls, they were calling shooting fouls.

 

There was one replay, for instance, where they showed Tai Webster getting called for a foul where not only did he not touch the guy (swiped at, but clearly didn't make contact), but also, if that was a foul (it wasn't), it was NOT in the act of shooting.  But they called it a shooting foul anyway because the (untouched) Michigan player went on to shoot a layup.

 

It's like WTH?  It was a swipe at the ball while the Michigan player was in the act of driving, not while he was in the act of shooting.  Double bad call. 

 

Meanwhile, Shavon gets molested every time he tries to go inside and has to show he's bleeding in order to get a call.

 

These guys were borderline incompetent but I don't think those were one way calls and not the reason our defense didn't play well enough to win.

 

In conference we're the 14th best team in FTA/FGA on offense and 14th worst team in FTA/FGA on defense. What percentage of that is a conspiracy by every B1G referee to screw over Nebraska vs us being a team that doesn't initiate much contact on offense and can't guard without contact on defense?

[Silverbacked1]

Michigan was trying to foul at the half and they still didn't call it until the second time he grabbed Glynn. Then they almost didn't call it the second time after we inbounds the ball. They wanted to foul at the end of the half, but the refs almost didn't call anything.

Another time I was confused was once They drove and got the two shot foul, but Tai had his fore arm on the kid the whole way and backed away when he was shooting. So the foul should have been called at the start of the drive, not 4 dribbles later and when he then tried to shoot a lay up.

The refs just didn't seem to be in it, like the whistle that should not have stopped play with us with the ball. They stood around and came up with an idea, told the Michigan bench and then gave them the ball. I thought that Kenya was going to run and take the ball away from the kid trying to inbounds for Michigan.

Not only was it the wrong call, they only told one bench what the call was going to be until they gave the kid the ball. Just not good all the way around. We didn't lose because of it, but we didn't win because of it either.

[Bugeaters1]

NAIA type refs.

[huskerbaseball13]

Just got back from being out of the states....needless to say I was shocked to see we had beat MSU...again.  I had to double check to make sure the website was correct.  I thought Mich was the most winnable game out of the last 3 but it appears we caught them on a day they were hot.  We have not been great on the road but Rutgers should be a for sure win and I do think we can find a way to beat Maryland at home.

[big red22]

Looking at the game again, the game was lost when Shields missed the front end of the one and one... they got the rebound and dunked it... That was a 4 point swing so instead of him making it a one possession game at 68-66 it ended up being 70-64.  That was the game changer with 2 minutes left in the game.

 

No way will I complain about Shields, because he almost single handily won us the game at Mich St.. This just goes to show how close we actually are to being a "great" team and not just good.  We were a missed free through away from possibly winning 5 in a row.

 

On to Purdue... People say that they are going to kill us, because of the miss match down low.  We also have the mismatch on speed.  

 

I predict White has a HUGE game... talking 30+

[jayschool]

Michigan shooting 36 percent from the field tonight midway through second half.

 

At home.

 

Against Rutgers.

 

Oy.

[Huskerone]

Michigan shooting 36 percent from the field tonight midway through second half.

 

At home.

 

Against Rutgers.

 

Oy.

We definitely got Michigan's best shot on Saturday...and still were in it to win it until the last few minutes.

[Husker4theSpurs]

This was a tough game to watch, but a fun one to watch too. Always seemed Michigan hit the open shot, especially when we would fight our butt off to get back in the game. All told I came away from this one feeling alright. We had a chance to get blown out a couple of times and we fought and fought and fought. And then when were in position to get over the hump we didn't quite have the energy left to pull it off. I really liked our fight.

These youngsters give a lot of hope for the future. If we can get a serviceable big man or one to step up, I like the next couple of years. Gill should give us another nice scoring option next year. We will miss Shavon obviously, but we will have slashers coming in as well. Could be fun! An NIT bid would be a real nice finish for this team and that appears within reach.

[royalfan]

 

We got outcoached badly.  Michigan has one of the best though, so it happens.  Give them credit, they played a hell of a game.  We didn't.  Effort was there, just wasn't enough to overcome the coaching edge and more importantly the shooting edge they brought.  Have to buckle up and steal one on the road at Purdue to cancel it.  Unfortunately, cancelling is not good enough at this point. 

I'm certainly not the expert but I've seen a little basketball and I'm not sure what you saw to say we were badly out coached? I'm not saying we weren't but I'm curious to know what you saw that makes you say that. You can game plan for something but your scout team is not going to be able to duplicate what you see in the game at the speed it really happens. Sometimes there is a big gap between the gameplan and the player execution. Since I've not been to practice or meetings, I don't know enough to say one was more at fault than the other.We did seem to struggle adjusting to the post rim run throughout the game but I also think we made some good adjustments.  What did you see that made you feel things were tipped drastically Michigan's way? They don't really do a lot of stuff, they just seem to do what they do very well.

 

You don't necessarily have to have done a bad job of coaching to be outcoached.  Michigan executed at an incredibly high level on both ends of the court.  I am surprised you didn't notice.  They didn't have more talent than we did.  But we were having a tough time dealing with their switching everything defense.  We didn't have the driving lanes we had been creating.  What I saw was a team without elite talent finding open shots quite often, and back cuts quite often.  They also played a great defensive game with a great defensive game plan.  Not sure what you saw that would object to my take.  No scout team is ever going to execute another game plan like their starters will so that is a little bit silly IMO.  What I could get on board with is the term "badly."  Perhaps, simply saying we got outcoached would be a little more accurate.  I think that is a game we should have won.  We didn't.  I did think we gave effort, so there was a problem somewhere.  To me it was in the X and O execution, and Michigan has one of the best coaches at accomplishing X and O execution. Miles wasn't the first and won't be the last to get outsmarted by him. 

[Dean Smith]

We got outcoached badly. Michigan has one of the best though, so it happens. Give them credit, they played a hell of a game. We didn't. Effort was there, just wasn't enough to overcome the coaching edge and more importantly the shooting edge they brought. Have to buckle up and steal one on the road at Purdue to cancel it. Unfortunately, cancelling is not good enough at this point.

I'm certainly not the expert but I've seen a little basketball and I'm not sure what you saw to say we were badly out coached? I'm not saying we weren't but I'm curious to know what you saw that makes you say that. You can game plan for something but your scout team is not going to be able to duplicate what you see in the game at the speed it really happens. Sometimes there is a big gap between the gameplan and the player execution. Since I've not been to practice or meetings, I don't know enough to say one was more at fault than the other.We did seem to struggle adjusting to the post rim run throughout the game but I also think we made some good adjustments. What did you see that made you feel things were tipped drastically Michigan's way? They don't really do a lot of stuff, they just seem to do what they do very well.

You don't necessarily have to have done a bad job of coaching to be outcoached. Michigan executed at an incredibly high level on both ends of the court. I am surprised you didn't notice. They didn't have more talent than we did. But we were having a tough time dealing with their switching everything defense. We didn't have the driving lanes we had been creating. What I saw was a team without elite talent finding open shots quite often, and back cuts quite often. They also played a great defensive game with a great defensive game plan. Not sure what you saw that would object to my take. No scout team is ever going to execute another game plan like their starters will so that is a little bit silly IMO. What I could get on board with is the term "badly." Perhaps, simply saying we got outcoached would be a little more accurate. I think that is a game we should have won. We didn't. I did think we gave effort, so there was a problem somewhere. To me it was in the X and O execution, and Michigan has one of the best coaches at accomplishing X and O execution. Miles wasn't the first and won't be the last to get outsmarted by him.

I agree with most of what you say. It just appears we have different definitions of out coached.