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The decision to build the new practice facility was made before the hiring of Coach Miles.  Doc was the coach.  The decision to build the new arena was in the works before Coach Miles.  It is unknown, at least to the majority of the common folk, if Doc ever went to Dr. Tom and asked for more money for assistants. Doc leveraged his assistants differently than Coach Miles, or so it appears.

 

I am not sure if there is an "absolute" answer to your question.  I would argue that when the decision was made to build the BOB, there was certainly a commitment to basketball.  When Danny came, there seemed to be a commitment to basketball. Many of us thought that Doc was the answer, especially with his promise of baseline to baseline basketball.  Like Barry, Doc struggled to get the right players in the fold. 

 

Doc tried to sell the program, he simply did not get it done.  I think the commitment has been there, now we just have the right mix of facilities, coaching staff, administrative staff and players.

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Doc never had the credentials to coach a major conference team. He took a UTEP team built up by a decent coach, & continued with his players. His second year was worse than his first. Too many times, guys ride the coattails of the hot coach that was before them and get hired away before there was ever proof they could at least sustain success.

I don't see Doc as anything more than a plan z hire.. A good guy but a below average head coach.

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I will answer the question since no one else did.

 

Miles pays more.  Some out of his own pocket.

 

Are you referring to his original contract negotiations where they talked about him taking less money so there was more left over for assistants?

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How much did Docs assistants make compared to Miles? Just trying to see how serious our efforts were to build our basketball team were before Miles.

 

Miles is paid towards the middle of the road in terms of B1G coaches.

Sadler was paid towards the bottom in the B1G/B12

Miles has nearly double the amount of money to put towards assistants that Sadler had. 

 

Even accounting for the inflation of basketball salaries we're much more committed financially to the basketball program in the last 4 years than we were for the first decade of this century. (coaches salaries, new arena, new practice facility) I'm unsure of our financial "seriousness" during the 20th century.

 

I hope this was at least a semi-legitimate question as opposed to some agenda to yet again beat on our former coach.  It's already been done too much and it's why this is going to receive much more snark than replies.

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How much did Docs assistants make compared to Miles? Just trying to see how serious our efforts were to build our basketball team were before Miles.

 

Miles is paid towards the middle of the road in terms of B1G coaches.

Sadler was paid towards the bottom in the B1G/B12

Miles has nearly double the amount of money to put towards assistants that Sadler had. 

 

Even accounting for the inflation of basketball salaries we're much more committed financially to the basketball program in the last 4 years than we were for the first decade of this century. (coaches salaries, new arena, new practice facility) I'm unsure of our financial "seriousness" during the 20th century.

 

I hope this was at least a semi-legitimate question as opposed to some agenda to yet again beat on our former coach.  It's already been done too much and it's why this is going to receive much more snark than replies.

Thanks. Yes it was a legitimate question, I have nothing personal against Doc,Collier, or anyone. I was just wondering if it was more along the lower side on wages. I have many opinions on how the whole Collier & Doc era came to be, but I'm just glad it led to the Miles era.
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This may be a little O.T. but how much did Moe Iba's assistants make?

Historically Nebraska has paid on the lower end of the pay scales for most sports until the last 10 years or so and then started to get competitive. I remember Devaney and Osborne having very modest salaries as Head Coaches even for those times compared to other schools.

 

I think Miles is showing another reason why he is a very smart coach in that he realizes how important it is to take care of his assistants salary wise to help get the best recruiters and coaches possible who fit his coaching style and beliefs.

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I will answer the question since no one else did.

 

Miles pays more.  Some out of his own pocket.

 

Are you referring to his original contract negotiations where they talked about him taking less money so there was more left over for assistants?

 

 

Yes I am.

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I actually only wanted to know the spending comparison between now and post Nee years. Were we competitive in pay?

Spending on a program encompasses a lot more than just how much the assistant coaches were paid.

 

IIRC, Doc started out at about $700,000/year, base salary.

 

Miles started out at double that.

 

Over six years, I think Doc was bumped up to about half of what Miles made this year.

 

Miles assistants, I believe, also make a lot more than Doc's did.

 

It's true, the spending started before Miles got here but Miles is riding a big wave of spending that started after Doc came on board.

 

I agree we have a terrific coach now.  You don't have to dump on the last guy in order to fully celebrate the current guy.  I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.  To me, it's good enough that we're happy with the guy we have.  Don't need to build him up by tearing anyone else down.

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Funny...I am reading through a mumber of books on Devaney and Osborne at this time.  Their wages and that of their assistants were very low.  Even when looking a the time period.  The numbers being thrown around today for both head coaches and the assistants are unbelievibly high.  Of course when you consider the revenue generated today versus then, it is almost as unbelievable.

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I actually only wanted to know the spending comparison between now and post Nee years. Were we competitive in pay?

Thanks, you stated it how I meant to, wondering how they stacked up conference and nationally by comparison. Obviously wages have skyrocketed each year to keep up with each other around the NCAA.

Spending on a program encompasses a lot more than just how much the assistant coaches were paid.

 

IIRC, Doc started out at about $700,000/year, base salary.

 

Miles started out at double that.

 

Over six years, I think Doc was bumped up to about half of what Miles made this year.

 

Miles assistants, I believe, also make a lot more than Doc's did.

 

It's true, the spending started before Miles got here but Miles is riding a big wave of spending that started after Doc came on board.

 

I agree we have a terrific coach now.  You don't have to dump on the last guy in order to fully celebrate the current guy.  I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.  To me, it's good enough that we're happy with the guy we have.  Don't need to build him up by tearing anyone else down.

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