big red22 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 We were down 44-12 with 4 minutes left in the 1st half. From that point we out scored them 55-38. Which leads to what I find as big positive here: We are extremely young team on our first road game and started out the game nervous and sloppy. When the nerves settled Nebraska was the better team. Quote
GoBigRed Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 We were down 44-12 with 4 minutes left in the 1st half. From that point we out scored them 55-38. Which leads to what I find as big positive here: We are extremely young team on our first road game and started out the game nervous and sloppy. When the nerves settled Nebraska was the better team. I appreciate the positive outlook, but it's pretty dang easy to get complacent when you're up 32. I would hope that we could and would chip into that, which we did, as CU is obviously not 32 points better than us. But it doesn't change the fact that it's inexcusable. The only positive for me: our main guys will all be back next year and they will remember this ass beating. Sucks to say it, but now maybe our players will finally recognize that this is actually a rivalry. They should feel very embarrassed. Huskers by 20 next year at Pinnacle. Hooper 1 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 The best takeaway, we didn't quit and call it in after having it handed to us. From here, I want nothing but improvement. Norm Peterson 1 Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 We got to see Hawkins and brought a spark. Bodied up on Doug when he was guarding him. Quote
hskr4life Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 I tend to agree... Sure they may of not been playing their hardest... but I can almost be certain that they wanted to rub it in as much as we wanted to come back. Their still had their starters in with about 2 to go as well. Quote
uneblinstu Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry, I'm not rally into that. Gotta learn to play from the opening buzzer, not just to the last one. Quote
big red22 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry, I'm not rally into that. Gotta learn to play from the opening buzzer, not just to the last one. Nebraska Starters: Fr, So, So, So, Sr Creighton Starters: Sr, Sr, Sr, Sr, Jr First road game Give them a chance to learn from this. I think they did… see my original post hhcmatt 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry, I'm not rally into that. Gotta learn to play from the opening buzzer, not just to the last one. Nebraska Starters: Fr, So, So, So, Sr Creighton Starters: Sr, Sr, Sr, Sr, Jr First road game Give them a chance to learn from this. I think they did… see my original post Miles also was handed by Colorado is first two years at Colorado St before running off 3 in a row. Let's see if history can repeat itself for the instate rivalry Hooper and HB 2 Quote
AuroranHusker Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry, I'm not rally into that. Gotta learn to play from the opening buzzer, not just to the last one.Nebraska Starters: Fr, So, So, So, SrCreighton Starters: Sr, Sr, Sr, Sr, Jr First road game Give them a chance to learn from this. I think they did… see my original post Miles also was handed by Colorado is first two years at Colorado St before running off 3 in a row. Let's see if history can repeat itself for the instate rivalry I think that's the positive outlook the OP intended to outline... it is hope for a better future in this series. Both teams need to play the Omaha Mavs in the coming years as well. Quote
Cookie Belcher Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Petteway is legit and threw down two monstrous dunks, one in Artino's grill. For we bad as we started out, they played very impressively in the second half and the guys were clearly bothered by it. For the first time in so while, I truly believe we beat Creighton next year. Quote
uneblinstu Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry, I'm not rally into that. Gotta learn to play from the opening buzzer, not just to the last one. Nebraska Starters: Fr, So, So, So, Sr Creighton Starters: Sr, Sr, Sr, Sr, Jr First road game Give them a chance to learn from this. I think they did… see my original post I read the original post. I'm just saying I disagree. I don't find much consolation in out playing a team after they jump out to a 30 point lead. I'm sure they will learn from it, but it still doesn't excuse the mess they put in the floor yesterday. Quote
hskr4life Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry, I'm not rally into that. Gotta learn to play from the opening buzzer, not just to the last one. Nebraska Starters: Fr, So, So, So, Sr Creighton Starters: Sr, Sr, Sr, Sr, Jr First road game Give them a chance to learn from this. I think they did… see my original post I read the original post. I'm just saying I disagree. I don't find much consolation in out playing a team after they jump out to a 30 point lead. I'm sure they will learn from it, but it still doesn't excuse the mess they put in the floor yesterday. It was better to see them cut into the lead rather than lay down and die. I think people are trying to say that Creighton was not playing hard, but I can almost say for certain that they wanted to rub it in and they could not. Do not discredit the guys for playing hard until the end... makes it sound like ya just wanted them to fold. Hooper and Norm Peterson 2 Quote
uneblinstu Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 I guess. But they're supposed to play hard to the end. I don't get excited to see them do that all the way to the final buzzer of a blowout. Sorry. But I was at the game, and Creighton was clearly not playing with the same intensity at the end of the game that they had at the start. I understand it was their first game and they're learning how to play at this level and with each other, but to not come out with any fight in the first 15 minutes of the game, I'm sorry, I just don't see much excuse for that. Quote
bball23 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 67 of the points by CU were from seniors that know how to play together. 3 of NU's points were by a senior we have. CU was clearly the better team yesterday...clearly! They also have been playing together for a LONG time. Wragge has been in the program for what, 5 years? Gibbs 4, Manigat 4, McDermott 4? Even guys like Chatman for 3, etc....how many of our guys outside of Ray have been together for long? This NU team will look very good on some nights, and VERY bad on some nights. Just the way it is for a young team. You look at at team like UNC for example (not comparing us to UNC, but using this as an analogy)...they lose to Belmont, beat Lou, lose to UAB, beat Michigan State....young team with ups and downs. Sure it sucks to lose this game, but I for one figured we would. First true road game, young team, vs a very good CU team that is very experienced. What I have said from the get go about this NU team. We HAVE to continue to see us get better as the year goes on. And frankly, I think we will. hhcmatt, trickey, Hooper and 1 other 4 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 We were down 44-12 with 4 minutes left in the 1st half. From that point we out scored them 55-38. Which leads to what I find as big positive here: We are extremely young team on our first road game and started out the game nervous and sloppy. When the nerves settled Nebraska was the better team. I appreciate the positive outlook, but it's pretty dang easy to get complacent when you're up 32. I would hope that we could and would chip into that, which we did, as CU is obviously not 32 points better than us. But it doesn't change the fact that it's inexcusable. The only positive for me: our main guys will all be back next year and they will remember this ass beating. Sucks to say it, but now maybe our players will finally recognize that this is actually a rivalry. They should feel very embarrassed. Huskers by 20 next year at Pinnacle. Whether Creighton got complacent or not being up 32 points, it doesn't change the fact that at least some of our players didn't quit and kept fighting until the very last minute when tHEy got ejected. Silverbacked1 and Cookie Belcher 2 Quote
GoBigRed Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 We were down 44-12 with 4 minutes left in the 1st half. From that point we out scored them 55-38. Which leads to what I find as big positive here: We are extremely young team on our first road game and started out the game nervous and sloppy. When the nerves settled Nebraska was the better team. I appreciate the positive outlook, but it's pretty dang easy to get complacent when you're up 32. I would hope that we could and would chip into that, which we did, as CU is obviously not 32 points better than us. But it doesn't change the fact that it's inexcusable. The only positive for me: our main guys will all be back next year and they will remember this ass beating. Sucks to say it, but now maybe our players will finally recognize that this is actually a rivalry. They should feel very embarrassed. Huskers by 20 next year at Pinnacle. Whether Creighton got complacent or not being up 32 points, it doesn't change the fact that at least some of our players didn't quit and kept fighting until the very last minute when tHEy got ejected. Yes, I was proud that they didn't quit, but I'm not going to give them a gold star for it. Even Doc Sadler's team in 2007 that got down 39-6 to Kansas came back and only lost by 20. No one really remembers that though. We all remember being down 39-6 on ESPN. Wish we had a leader who had stepped up earlier in the game and gotten in his teammates' faces. That guy needs to be Petteway I think, but unfortunately he's only a sophomore in his 9th game at Nebraska. Quote
PimpMario Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 I don't get the excuses. Yay we outscored them in garbage time, so what? That is meaningless. I question if the expectations are too low for this team/program. We boat completely and utterly boatraced and showed no fight at all. What is this moral victory crap? We got embarrassed. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 What you say is true, Pimp. And the only thing that would have made it worse is if our players had up and quit, rather than showing a little pride and a little fight and playing all the way to the end. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry I choose to look for some thing good in all things, just me. Except Gibbs he is a first class looser. Norm Peterson, jdostal and hskr4life 3 Quote
PimpMario Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry I choose to look for some thing good in all things, just me. Maybe the good thing is that we got embarrassed. Maybe that is a teachable moment. But patting them on the back isn't going to help. I know Miles was embarrassed and I hope he can motivate those guys and help them realize they never want to feel that way again. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Didn't say I was patting them on the back. Just telling them what they did right. Would also show them what they did wrong and then we would work on getting better. Just me. Quote
Hooper Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 I don't get the excuses. Yay we outscored them in garbage time, so what? That is meaningless. I question if the expectations are too low for this team/program. We boat completely and utterly boatraced and showed no fight at all. What is this moral victory crap? We got embarrassed. I don't know that I'd call it "garbage time." That term usually suggests to me that starters were pulled and that success came against back-ups. That wasn't the case here, and the score eventually got close enough to keep it interesting too. I'm also not sure I'd agree that we had "no fight at all" early in the game. The guys looked shell shocked to me, like the moment was too big for them. Creighton hitting every three ball they shot, including some from NBA range, didn't help. We were in a deep hole very quickly. Hopefully they'll learn from this and grow as a team. Quote
ajb5856 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 Didn't say I was patting them on the back. Just telling them what they did right. Would also show them what they did wrong and then we would work on getting better. Just me. Agree with you Silver. Some like to call it "patting on the back, giving excuses, or being an apologist." I like to think of it as just what happened. And you can't ignore what happened completely. I'm not apologizing for getting embarrassed. That's what happened and there are no excuses. But, what also happened is that Nebraska out scored Creighton 55-38 over the last 24 minutes. Call it garbage time if you want, but to me garbage time starts in the final couple minutes of a game when it is out of question for sure and the subs come in. Yes, it was a 30 point lead. But usually when you have a 30 point lead you try to keep a 30 point lead. No the game probably isn't played exactly the same at that point, but Creighton would have rather made it a 45 point game instead of letting it get to just a 15 point lead. The best part about that happening against Creighton is that we hopefully won't see that kind of start the rest of the season. Quote
PimpMario Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 I don't know that I'd call it "garbage time." That term usually suggests to me that starters were pulled and that success came against back-ups. That wasn't the case here, and the score eventually got close enough to keep it interesting too. I'm also not sure I'd agree that we had "no fight at all" early in the game. The guys looked shell shocked to me, like the moment was too big for them. Creighton hitting every three ball they shot, including some from NBA range, didn't help. We were in a deep hole very quickly. Hopefully they'll learn from this and grow as a team. To me Garbage time is when the game is over. With 5 minutes left in the 1st half the game was over. McDermott has always left his starters in too long. Creighton ran a lot of clock in the second half and stopped pushing their offense a lot. They could have easily scored 100+ on us. I guess I don't know what you mean when you say they looked shell shocked but fought to start the game? Those are opposites. We looked scared of Creighton. A team who plays little interior defense. This is like the worst of both worlds. We got embarrassed but won't admit it. The only way to not get embarrassed in the future is to feel the pain of the embarrassment in the present. I am sick and tired of going to Omaha and being embarrassed by Creighton. It happened under Collier and Sadler and I thought it was finally over. Guess I was wrong. I still love Tim Miles and I hope he can use this and not shy away from it, but I worry the team is going to think they played okay. But, as Nebraska fans, there is always next year. Quote
jdostal Posted December 9, 2013 Report Posted December 9, 2013 I don't think the team's future performance hinges on how we choose to talk about that game online. The team was embarrassed, Miles was embarrassed, the fans were embarrassed, and nothing we say here is going to lessen that for anyone. I think as fans we are right to praise the effort the guys displayed. hhcmatt and Silverbacked1 2 Quote
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