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[rwmctrofholz]

Texas Tech gets Duke at home on the 20th.  Would like to see them win for Nebraska's sake.

 

As the Red Kettle bell ringers say, "Every little bit helps."
 

[hhctony]

The game really has changed. Go look at any shot chart now. There are very few 12-18 foot jump shots even attempted, let alone made. Drive and attack the basket, score in the post or take threes (and hope to make a 35-40% clip). That's how college basketball is now. I am not smart enough to post Nebraska's shot chart on Saturday but it's similar. Go look at any Gonzaga or Duke game as well.

Edited December 10, 2018 by hhctony

[49r]

21 minutes ago, hhctony said:

The game really has change. Go look at any shot chart now. There are very few 12-18 foot jump shots even attempted, let alone made. Drive and attack the basket, score in the post or take threes (and hope to make a 35-40% clip). That's how college basketball is now. I am not smart enough to post Nebraska's shot chart on Saturday but it's similar. Go look at any Gonzaga or Duke game as well.

 

Except for Isaac Copeland.  He's got that shot mastered it looks like.

[royalfan]

9 hours ago, HolyBobpilgrimage said:

maybe you're right.  in fact, you're probably right. But I don't like it. Old man me gets pretty grumpy (and im not even 30 yet)

 

I embrace the 3. specialists are even fine. But it's not a fun viewing experience for me to see guys jacking up shots from inefficient areas of the court near half court, Lamelo ball style. ugh

I can certainly get behind not liking it.  I have been critical of this staff at times, but one thing I do like is then trying to embrace the analytics.  While I don’t think we are great at developing shooting, which has hindered our ability to use the line to our benefit on offense, it is extremely important that we revamped our d to be better(even damn good) at defending the line.  

[HuskerFever]

2 hours ago, 49r said:

I've said for years the college 3 point line is just way WAY too close.

 

But then where does it stop? Moving the line back is just a gateway drug for half court shots! 

 

But in reality it does change the game a bit. It likely limits outside shot opportunities and clogs up the key to force longer two point shots.

 

Or, if you have an effective offense then you can stretch out the defense a little more.

[hhcmatt]

Just a matter of time before they move the 3 back to FIBA or NBA range 

 

Current: 20.75 ft

FIBA 22.15 ft  - 21.65 ft in corner

NBA 23.75 ft - 22 ft in corner

 

[49r]

12 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

But then where does it stop? Moving the line back is just a gateway drug for half court shots! 

 

But in reality it does change the game a bit. It likely limits outside shot opportunities and clogs up the key to force longer two point shots.

 

Or, if you have an effective offense then you can stretch out the defense a little more.

 

Since the game started the athletes have gotten much much bigger faster stronger, etc.  The only real solution, IMO, would be to make the court wider and longer and the rim higher.  But since that's not going to happen, there isn't much to do but accept the fact that the game is all about the 3 point shot now.

[hskr4life]

2 hours ago, rwmctrofholz said:

Texas Tech gets Duke at home on the 20th.  Would like to see them win for Nebraska's sake.

 

As the Red Kettle bell ringers say, "Every little bit helps."
 

 

I believe this might be a neutral site.  Looks like MSG.

[49r]

27 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

I believe this might be a neutral site.  Looks like MSG.

 

Nothing neutral about Duke at MSG.  That's a straight up road game for the Red Raiders.

[jdw]

8 hours ago, hhcmatt said:

Just a matter of time before they move the 3 back to FIBA or NBA range 

 

Current: 20.75 ft

FIBA 22.15 ft  - 21.65 ft in corner

NBA 23.75 ft - 22 ft in corner

 

It should be the same all the way around.

[Bugeaters1]

3 minutes ago, jdw said:

It should be the same all the way around.

Why do we have to go to the international rules? The USA invented the game.

[jdw]

6 minutes ago, Bugeaters1 said:

Why do we have to go to the international rules? The USA invented the game.

I mean the distance of the three.  I don't like that it is shorter,or longer from the corner.

Edited December 11, 2018 by jdw

[49r]

45 minutes ago, jdw said:

I mean the distance of the three.  I don't like that it is shorter,or longer from the corner.

 

Yeah that bugs me too.

[Norm Peterson]

1 hour ago, jdw said:

I mean the distance of the three.  I don't like that it is shorter,or longer from the corner.

 

If it’s not, you run out of real estate. There has to be some floorspace in between the out of bounds and the three point line so that a player can catch, get his feet set, and shoot the ball. The width of the floor determines that, at some point, you have to square off the three-point arc. 

[jdw]

24 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

If it’s not, you run out of real estate. There has to be some floorspace in between the out of bounds and the three point line so that a player can catch, get his feet set, and shoot the ball. The width of the floor determines that, at some point, you have to square off the three-point arc. 

22' would work all the way around.

[AuroranHusker]

13 hours ago, 49r said:

 

Except for Isaac Copeland.  He's got that shot mastered it looks like.

 

If a dude makes 60-65% of mid-range shots, I have no issue with a dude taking them. (Cope is a dude.)

[AuroranHusker]

2 hours ago, jdw said:

22' would work all the way around.

 

We were just discussing that very distance prior to the NU-CU game. It would make a lot of sense to change the distance to 22' (or close to that, like say 21'-9" or something).

[HolyBobpilgrimage]

21 hours ago, royalfan said:

I can certainly get behind not liking it.  I have been critical of this staff at times, but one thing I do like is then trying to embrace the analytics.  While I don’t think we are great at developing shooting, which has hindered our ability to use the line to our benefit on offense, it is extremely important that we revamped our d to be better(even damn good) at defending the line.  

Big fan of the analytics myself. Even some morey ball(rockets fan here). I suppose it comes down to personnel; on very rare occasion will a collection of players be right for that approach, particularly college kids. The professionals are a different story imo.

But yeah, you make good points across the board man, I am definitely not critical of the coaching staff even if I always see room for change in any basketball staff.

Really impressed with Tim showing some versatility in getting this team back on track to an elite defense. Excited where this takes us.

[Huskerpapa]

...or you could bring the big man back into the game and make the lane narrower (LOL or not call the 3 second rule) and eliminate the three point shot.  I know, that will NEVER happen.

[rwmctrofholz]

On 12/10/2018 at 12:30 PM, hskr4life said:

 

I believe this might be a neutral site.  Looks like MSG.

 

I'll be damned, you're right.  Was going from Tx Tech's schedule on MS-ESPN.