survey of proposed changes.....

[whoopdeedoo]

http://www.swishappeal.com/2015/4/7/8358009/proposed-ncaa-rule-changes-met-with-conflicting-opinions-by-coaches

 

 

think the only one that really concerns me would be the shorter shot clock. have to believe that one would affect many offenses (as stated).

[HB]

24 second shot clock = worst idea ever

[dlrrk]

Regarding the article...  I'd agree with the Cal coach's quote...  "I am open to anything that improves the game, and we cannot be stagnant in our mindset... In general, in women's basketball, we need to think about how to make the game more entertaining and more high scoring..."

 

If you look at the article you'll see the coach's picture.  Take a look behind her and you'll see, what I feel is the major problem in women's basketball (Not at Nebraska), huge chunks of empty seats. 

 

This morning KC sports radio gave last night's national championship game about 2 minutes of coverage because very few people care.

 

I like the idea of moving the Sweet 16 to Vegas (from another post/article).  The idea of creating a College World Series atmosphere is worth exploring. 

 

I know this won't happen, but in order to create excitement, I'd consider lowering the basket height to 9-9 1/2 feet (girls don't play baseball they play softball).  Slamming dunks and ally-oop plays are loved by fans.  If girls could do that, it might stir some interest from the vaunted male 18-35 demographic. 

 

Of course having UCONN win the championship every year makes most of us sick and doesn't do much create a larger audience. 

[Cazzie22]

The costs to public schools to lower baskets would be astronomical.  Of course the shoe companies might foot the bill if they could put their logo in the gym! (Why not just make all sports club sports and forget H.S. BB, it seems to be more important to the players anyway)  AAU is going to kill H.S. sports...except football.

[dlrrk]

Cal coach's quote... "...we need to think about how to make the game more entertaining and more high scoring..."

To me, here quote is on course and on glideslope. I watched a few Nebraska away games where the stands couldn't have had more than a few hundred fans.

So, how does women's basketball attract more fans? Can it?

I've seen a few of the HS football stadiums east of Dallas. The one in Rockwall, TX must have cost several million dollars. I would think TX could absorb the cost of lowering a few backboards. Maybe not.

[whoopdeedoo]

i'm probably one of the few that don't get the "dunking" thing. i prefer to be more impressed with the "skill" side. 

[HB]

i'm probably one of the few that don't get the "dunking" thing. i prefer to be more impressed with the "skill" side. 

 

I'm with you.  I'm a dinosaur, but I think the athleticism/strength components have overshadowed the skill side as well, particularly in the men's game.   

[dlrrk]

Here is the counter to the "skill" argument:  The bottom line is that the 18-35 year old male likes the dunk, and the 18-35 male goes/watches sporting events.  So in order to put butts in seats and butts in front of TV screens women's basketball should consider doing something...  One suggestion was going to quarters (vice 20 minute halves).... What does that give you?

 

I'd also argue that an "alli-opp" pass/dunk takes skill.  Without a near perfect pass (which takes a lot of skill) the slam dunk doesn't happen. 

 

I am certainly no expert, and I'm not saying that a 9 foot basket is the answer, but I would argue that something should be done,

[KarlHessEatMy....]

I think in the Women's game you will still have skill players even if the rim is at 9'. I think adding the dunking part for the posts would be a great idea. Not sure there would be much for dunking in the women's game even by lowering it with the way the game is played. Usually fast breaks are from the 5'7" girls any way.

[HB]

Here is the counter to the "skill" argument:  The bottom line is that the 18-35 year old male likes the dunk, and the 18-35 male goes/watches sporting events.  So in order to put butts in seats and butts in front of TV screens women's basketball should consider doing something...  One suggestion was going to quarters (vice 20 minute halves).... What does that give you?

 

I'd also argue that an "alli-opp" pass/dunk takes skill.  Without a near perfect pass (which takes a lot of skill) the slam dunk doesn't happen. 

 

I am certainly no expert, and I'm not saying that a 9 foot basket is the answer, but I would argue that something should be done,

 

I'm not sure the 18-35 male demographic will attend in droves even if the dunk shows up in the woman's game.   My belief  is they won't.  Then we just degrade the game for the demographics that are inclined to attend.  I agree on the alley-oop; it is a beautiful play and requires considerable skill.  But it works as well with a lay-in finish then as a dunk.   Anyway,  as stated earlier, I am a fossil, and generally operate under the motto of "change is bad", so my views are tainted by that reality.   

[Bugeaters1]

Here is the counter to the "skill" argument: The bottom line is that the 18-35 year old male likes the dunk, and the 18-35 male goes/watches sporting events. So in order to put butts in seats and butts in front of TV screens women's basketball should consider doing something... One suggestion was going to quarters (vice 20 minute halves).... What does that give you?

I'd also argue that an "alli-opp" pass/dunk takes skill. Without a near perfect pass (which takes a lot of skill) the slam dunk doesn't happen.

I am certainly no expert, and I'm not saying that a 9 foot basket is the answer, but I would argue that something should be done,

I'm not sure the 18-35 male demographic will attend in droves even if the dunk shows up in the woman's game. My belief is they won't. Then we just degrade the game for the demographics that are inclined to attend. I agree on the alley-oop; it is a beautiful play and requires considerable skill. But it works as well with a lay-in finish then as a dunk. Anyway, as stated earlier, I am a fossil, and generally operate under the motto of "change is bad", so my views are tainted by that reality.

I agree whole heartedly HB, the skill of the game is what I enjoy about the game. Not the thug ball that is played by the men.

[swmckewon]

 

I know this won't happen, but in order to create excitement, I'd consider lowering the basket height to 9-9 1/2 feet (girls don't play baseball they play softball).  Slamming dunks and ally-oop plays are loved by fans.  If girls could do that, it might stir some interest from the vaunted male 18-35 demographic. 

This wouldn't help the women's game. It'd help 6-foot-5 statues block 6 more shots per game, though. 

[huskerchode]

I would hate to see the women's game become more like the men's game.  Rather than try to force that to happen, why don't they put more marketing into attracting more women and girls to the games, and university students?  I would think that would be your target demo.  Most of that needs to be done at the university level with a concerted effort from the athletic department.  I'm a Husker fan and I support all Husker sports.  Some I support more than others and women's basketball is one that I really enjoy to watch.

[dlrrk]

The problem in women's basketball isn't Nebraska. Nebraska has great fans and they care.

The problem is the lack of attendance (hence caring about the sport) in other places around the country (including some BIG locations).

Here are a few examples: I'd bet that these attendance numbers are a bit exaggerated.

Pittsburgh vs Wake Forest (02/15/15 at Winston-Salem, N.C. (LJVM Coliseum)), Attendance: 642

Georgia vs Arkansas 02/09/15 6 p.m. at Fayetteville, Ark. (Bud Walton Arena, Attendance: 1,488

Texas Tech vs West Virginia (1/14/15 at WVU Coliseum, Morgantown, W.Va.), Attendance: 1,011

Maybe it can't be fixed, but I'd argue a smart course of action is to try something to attract more fans to the sport... regardless of how it's accomplished.

Radical change is hard and would be met with stiff resistance, so it's safe to say that the NCAA/powers that be... will work around the margins and accomplish little to attract more fans.

[KarlHessEatMy....]

I believe some of it has to do with most states having multiple Division 1 schools plus multiple pro teams in a state.. And I think Women sports are the last to draw attention out of all the sports. I don't think there is any way for Women's basketball or volleyball to draw more of a crowd then they already do. I mean a person could probably go to some kind of pro or college event every day of the whole year and basically, is impossible to do.

[huskerchode]

This is why more NCAA tourney games should be played in PBA in the future.  People here go, even if the Huskers aren't in it.  Looks good on television.

[Noah121]

I believe some of it has to do with most states having multiple Division 1 schools plus multiple pro teams in a state.. And I think Women sports are the last to draw attention out of all the sports. I don't think there is any way for Women's basketball or volleyball to draw more of a crowd then they already do. I mean a person could probably go to some kind of pro or college event every day of the whole year and basically, is impossible to do.

That's an interesting thought. It is one advantage that I had living in Nebraska during my formative years, in not having the distraction of pro sports to interfere with my growing love of the Huskers.

 

Of course, it brings up a question: would I have become the rabid women's sports fan that I am if I had not gone to a few WBB and VB games with my grandparents and family in the years 1996-1999?

[whoopdeedoo]

I believe some of it has to do with most states having multiple Division 1 schools plus multiple pro teams in a state.. And I think Women sports are the last to draw attention out of all the sports. I don't think there is any way for Women's basketball or volleyball to draw more of a crowd then they already do. I mean a person could probably go to some kind of pro or college event every day of the whole year and basically, is impossible to do.

 

i think there is a lot of validity to this statement. i am running out of time, so, have to make this quick. read this statement from the Summit League WBB Tourney. yes, i am from SD---been a huge husker football fan for a long time. my sister who lives in nebraska kinda turned me on to other husker programs. fell in love with the way the programs are run---hence, i follow a good majority of husker athletics. 

 

whoever thought the Summit League would see this? sd is enjoying a boost in the following of women's college bb, not to mention hs girls bb. i think much of it has to do with the absence of big time pro sports in the area. making the choice rather easy. anyway, think most of you know what i am trying to point out. the jackrabbit women have a very good program. usd is on the upswing to with the hiring of Amy Williams.

 

no doubt the Summit Tourney (in Sioux Falls) has benefited from the run SDSU Jackrabbits have had since the tourney has been in Sioux Falls---and, USD won it last year. 

 

http://www.thesummitleague.org/sports/wbkb/2014-15/releases/20150331bmrgej

[Row6Seat10]

The first thing they need to address is, how can you eliminate all the negativity that seems to surround the sport. It's that loud uneducated voice and you hear it all the time. Can't imagine what it would be like if there wasn't a thing called political correctness. It happens every where and it's almost always someone with a podium who hasn't watched a game for many years but yet has an opinion that was formed some 40+ years ago. And it's not just the males that spew it, females are just as guilty.

 

The Ticket here in Lincoln is one of the worst. Adrian Fiala said just a couple months ago "that women who played women's college basketball 10 years ago couldn't even dribble, it's come a long way since then but it's still hard to watch". The girl on the same station who does 4 downs said she can't stand to watch women's basketball just last week. I would question either one of those two just exactly when did you last see a women's college basketball game. Both would most likely answer "they can't remember" but yet, both felt it necessary to comment on it negatively.

 

Seriously doubt though the stigma of "it's girl's playing basketball" will ever go away. But if they could some how diminish that view it sure would help.

[whoopdeedoo]

Row6Seat10, i am really not sure it will go away (at least not in my lifetime). many of my acquaintances can't stand females playing basketball. one of my old buddies, who is a head track coach at the DI level truly believes females were not built to play the game of basketball. yet, his one daughter played hs basketball, volleyball, and track/field. (he stated he really sweat it out watching her play basketball, praying for no injury so she could continue her vb goals) and she now plays volleyball at the DI level. he doesn't seem to have a problem with girls competing in volleyball and track & field. so, whatever.

[hoop_head]

Women just got the right to vote less than 100 years ago. Title IX in 1972? Who thought 20 years ago discussing a female president was realistic? Things take time to change. Stop looking for the magic charm in FIBA rules. 

 

Perennial sweet 16/elite 8 type stuff and we'd see sellouts in Nebraska. Give guys the out of "they're really effing good" and that's all it would take. Even old guys who wouldn't even consider going now.