Swan88 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Now that we've had our Dang Deng and Cornish Hen (ok, I stole those distorted names from other people--sorry) disappointments, thought it might be a good time to revisit some star issues. First of all, this basketball occasion is reminiscent of Bobby Bowden receiving high-plaudits for having six players drafted in the first round, when a national sports-guy opined that Tom Osborne was a much-more-impressive coach because he had similar team results but with only a few players drafted (fyi, I disclaim accuracy of memory on details of the foregoing--but the general sense is correct). Anyway, while some schools like UNLV struggle to develop consistency (heck, even an NIT bid) with multiple four- and five-star upper-classmen on their teams, Tim Miles achieved great success this past year with the following sohpomore players as the main guys (star rankings are by ESPN): Shavon Shields--2 stars; Walter Pitchford--2 stars; Terran Petteway--3 stars; Benny Parker--1 star. Don't have any idea whether Tim Miles can evaluate talent better than others, or that he can develop talent better than others, or that he can utilize talent better than others, or that he is just lucky. But the reality is that, (i) he has been achieving such over-performance from less-than-highly-ranked players his entire career, (ii) he is one heck-of-a coach, and (iii) there is no reason to believe he will do anything other than excell greatly in the future--just like he always has in the past. Hammond and Smith and Ayegba are a good start towards future success, and here's guessing Tim Miles and Co. will lasso another player or two for 2014 who will contribute signifcantly toward future success. Bugeaters1 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 My sense is Miles has an eye for talent. He knows what skills will fit into what he wants to do and he can see who has them. He's been in on a lot of players who ended up blowing up later on. Didn't necessarily land them but he saw what they could do apparently before a lot of others did. That's worth something. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 My sense is Miles has an eye for talent. He knows what skills will fit into what he wants to do and he can see who has them. He's been in on a lot of players who ended up blowing up later on. Didn't necessarily land them but he saw what they could do apparently before a lot of others did. That's worth something. Yep, Miles is the real deal. There's a distinct reason this off-season that a few other teams like Mizzou & Tennessee were interested in the Tim Miles experience. And, who wouldn't be??? I have a good feeling that the 'right' recruit/transfer(s) that Miles & Co. convince to be 'N' will be making their way to Lincoln this summer. Quote
Handy Johnson Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 The worm has turned my friends, we aren't missing out on 4&5 star players anymore, THEY are missing out by not attending the Harvard of the Plains (i.e. Nebraska) and being part of the Miles experience. We will be witnessing history... Silverbacked1 and Norm Peterson 2 Quote
49r Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 Lets not get all delusional here, stars are important. I think Miles and the rest of the staff, while having done a pretty good job so far, still has some ways to go on the recruiting front. That's just my opinion. NeHoops, GATA, leonidas and 1 other 4 Quote
Swan88 Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Posted May 21, 2014 We like our recruits "long, lean and underrated." Tim Miles. AuroranHusker 1 Quote
Creighton Fan Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 Big ten is a damn good conference. Its gonna be hard to compete on a tegular basis relyinv only on diamonds in the ruff. At some point you gotta get the blue chip kids. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 We like our recruits "long, lean and underrated." Tim Miles. See my sig line, there were zucchinis involved! hhcmatt 1 Quote
Husker4theSpurs Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 One advantage we might find is having experienced players versus younger players on the more "elite" teams in the league that are more likely to leave early. I'm kind of reaching ... It is disappointing to lose out on some middling recruits as we've never been more appealing but we will keep plugging away. Quote
Ron Mexico Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I could care less what star ranking a kid has. Those who are in charge, or who have a say in ranking kids, by and large only have a layman's knowledge of player evaluation. A lot of them got their start with the recruiting services because they were unemployed at the time. It's all a sham. Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I could care less what star ranking a kid has. Those who are in charge, or who have a say in ranking kids, by and large only have a layman's knowledge of player evaluation. A lot of them got their start with the recruiting services because they were unemployed at the time. It's all a sham. They are right more than they are wrong at the end of the day. Quote
Ron Mexico Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I could care less what star ranking a kid has. Those who are in charge, or who have a say in ranking kids, by and large only have a layman's knowledge of player evaluation. A lot of them got their start with the recruiting services because they were unemployed at the time. It's all a sham. They are right more than they are wrong at the end of the day. How hard is it to give 5 stars to a kid who goes to UNC, KU etc? Their star system is based mostly on the schools doing the recruiting. Quote
HuskerFever Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I could care less what star ranking a kid has. Those who are in charge, or who have a say in ranking kids, by and large only have a layman's knowledge of player evaluation. A lot of them got their start with the recruiting services because they were unemployed at the time. It's all a sham. They are right more than they are wrong at the end of the day. How hard is it to give 5 stars to a kid who goes to UNC, KU etc? Their star system is based mostly on the schools doing the recruiting. Didn't Callahan hire an external recruiting service at one time? (Disclaimer: I could be completely wrong. I just feel like I've heard that before... and I'm not singling out Callahan; I think this happens all the time). Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 I could care less what star ranking a kid has. Those who are in charge, or who have a say in ranking kids, by and large only have a layman's knowledge of player evaluation. A lot of them got their start with the recruiting services because they were unemployed at the time. It's all a sham.They are right more than they are wrong at the end of the day. How hard is it to give 5 stars to a kid who goes to UNC, KU etc? Their star system is based mostly on the schools doing the recruiting. They usually do their lists a couple years in advance and plenty of guys in the 150 don't have the big offers before they make the list. I mean the 4 star PG from Illinois NU is on didn't have any major offers before the AAU season but has been ranked for over a year. Yes it helps with offers but they find the players just the same. Quote
lanigan123 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 Basketball is way different than football. They are right way more often than football. These kids are tracked for years. Quote
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