Hooper Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 ESPN's Jeff Goodman has reported that Chris Harriman was offered a job recently by Matt Painter at Purdue, but that he turned it down. Painter then made another run at him, and Harriman turned him down again. This is great news for the program in my opinion. I'm sure his son's medical problems factored into the equation, but I have to believe he'd have stayed regardless. Quote
hhcmatt Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Purdue had a void on their coaching staff as one of their top assistants, Micah Shrewsberry left to go work with Stevens and the Celtics last month Looks like Shrewsberry was making 160k so there was probably no way could pay Harriman more than he was making here...maybe even a pay cut. Looks like we're 1 for 2 this summer in retaining assistant coaches. Quote
jimmykc Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Shouldn't it be considered bad form to try and poach an assistant from a team in your own conference? Just wondering. tcp 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Shouldn't it be considered bad form to try and poach an assistant from a team in your own conference? Just wondering. Someone should tell that to Minnesota. BTW, where did Nebraska get their last assistant football coach from again? Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 This is great news. Always want our coaches to be given challenges and getting a job that s a dream for them. I just think that right now coach Harriman can have those goals met here for awhile. Think his son has a lot to do with staying here. The challenge of turning this program around helps. And I think that Roibin Washut is also spot on that it would have been a lateral step and Harriman's next step is a head coach. But like I first said that is great news. Quote
The Coach Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 I know Purdue is a better program than us historically, but it's not like they are Indiana or Michigan St, and he's not from that area. With our new facilities and the amount we are paying him, it would have been a lateral move at best. trickey 1 Quote
49r Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 This is huge. Lateral move or not, this is Purdue we're talking about. They win conference championships and go to final fours. They wanted to poach one of our coaches and he turned them down. I have to think our Karma is coming around. tcp and Norm Peterson 2 Quote
jimmykc Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 hhcdimes:I didn't mean to imply it wasn't done or that we were perfect- just that it might be bad form. Does this mean it might be ok to make a play for a friend's fiancee? Of course I would have to find a friend first... Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 hhcdimes:I didn't mean to imply it wasn't done or that we were perfect- just that it might be bad form. Does this mean it might be ok to make a play for a friend's fiancee? Of course I would have to find a friend first... Shoot none of my friends wife's or girlfriends would even think of saying yes to me. Quote
NUdiehard Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 I said many months ago that Miles should give Harriman a significant pay raise to make it very difficult for him to leave. Excellent recruiting assistant coaches are very difficult to find and are worth every penny they make. Harriman is among the best and it will be hard to keep him. Paying him $400,000+ would be a very wise investment IMO. I don't really care if this would offend some of the other assistants. None of them, other than maybe Hunter (who I don't believe is as quality a recruiter as Harriman) is worth what Harriman is. They are not being courted by other teams like Harriman is. Harriman is wanted because he has proven himself an excellent recruiter. We are Nebraska and we need to pay well above market rate to keep the best and if I were Miles I would pay Harriman $400,000+ to show him NU's commitment to him and his family. Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 I said many months ago that Miles should give Harriman a significant pay raise to make it very difficult for him to leave. Excellent recruiting assistant coaches are very difficult to find and are worth every penny they make. Harriman is among the best and it will be hard to keep him. Paying him $400,000+ would be a very wise investment IMO. I don't really care if this would offend some of the other assistants. None of them, other than maybe Hunter (who I don't believe is as quality a recruiter as Harriman) is worth what Harriman is. They are not being courted by other teams like Harriman is. Harriman is wanted because he has proven himself an excellent recruiter. We are Nebraska and we need to pay well above market rate to keep the best and if I were Miles I would pay Harriman $400,000+ to show him NU's commitment to him and his family. Thats more than double than the majority of asst's make at schools like Arizona, KU, etc. Nebraska cant do that for basketball I dont care what youre trying to accomplish you cant afford to do it. Quote
NUdiehard Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 I said many months ago that Miles should give Harriman a significant pay raise to make it very difficult for him to leave. Excellent recruiting assistant coaches are very difficult to find and are worth every penny they make. Harriman is among the best and it will be hard to keep him. Paying him $400,000+ would be a very wise investment IMO. I don't really care if this would offend some of the other assistants. None of them, other than maybe Hunter (who I don't believe is as quality a recruiter as Harriman) is worth what Harriman is. They are not being courted by other teams like Harriman is. Harriman is wanted because he has proven himself an excellent recruiter. We are Nebraska and we need to pay well above market rate to keep the best and if I were Miles I would pay Harriman $400,000+ to show him NU's commitment to him and his family. Thats more than double than the majority of asst's make at schools like Arizona, KU, etc. Nebraska cant do that for basketball I dont care what youre trying to accomplish you cant afford to do it. NU can afford it and it would barely even be noticed. Dollars are dollars. Moving him up to $400,000 would increase his salary approximatley $150,000. That is nothing. The AD wouldn't even know there was a change. Heck, Miles earns $1.7 million and will proably get a $200,000 to $300,000 raise after this season no matter what the record. A HC ultimately is only as good as his players. Doc Sadler learned that the hard way. Having ace recruiters to bring in their players is essential. Paying your ace assistants very well is a very wise investment, even if some of it has to come out of the HC's pocket through reduced salary. K State used to pay their ace recruiter $500,000+ and our ath budget absolutely dwarfs theirs. To say we can't do it is simply inaccurate. Would it be unconventional. Absolutely. But who gives a crap about convention. NU must do whatever it can to gain an advantage. We don't have tradition, or banners or any of that. But we do have a lot of $$$$$$. That is our advantage and if we have the card, we should play it. trickey 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Think his son has a lot to do with staying here. The challenge of turning this program around helps. And I think that Roibin Washut is also spot on that it would have been a lateral step and Harriman's next step is a head coach. Actually, that wasn't Washut Quote
hhcmatt Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 I said many months ago that Miles should give Harriman a significant pay raise to make it very difficult for him to leave. Excellent recruiting assistant coaches are very difficult to find and are worth every penny they make. Harriman is among the best and it will be hard to keep him. Paying him $400,000+ would be a very wise investment IMO. I don't really care if this would offend some of the other assistants. None of them, other than maybe Hunter (who I don't believe is as quality a recruiter as Harriman) is worth what Harriman is. They are not being courted by other teams like Harriman is. Harriman is wanted because he has proven himself an excellent recruiter. We are Nebraska and we need to pay well above market rate to keep the best and if I were Miles I would pay Harriman $400,000+ to show him NU's commitment to him and his family. Thats more than double than the majority of asst's make at schools like Arizona, KU, etc. Nebraska cant do that for basketball I dont care what youre trying to accomplish you cant afford to do it. NU can afford it and it would barely even be noticed. Dollars are dollars. Moving him up to $400,000 would increase his salary approximatley $150,000. That is nothing. The AD wouldn't even know there was a change. Heck, Miles earns $1.7 million and will proably get a $200,000 to $300,000 raise after this season no matter what the record. A HC ultimately is only as good as his players. Doc Sadler learned that the hard way. K State used to pay their ace recruiter $500,000+ and our ath budget absolutely dwarfs theirs. To say we can't do it is simply inaccurate. Would it be unconventional. Absolutely. But who gives a crap about convention. NU must do whatever it can to gain an advantage. We don't have tradition, or banners or any of that. But we do have a lot of $$$$$$. That is our advantage and if we have the card, we should play it. $250k, not counting the exceptions, is about the top salary for an Div I assistant so Harriman is towards the top of group. I like Harriman a lot but I think Kenya Hunter is proof of the sort of assistant we can get with the money, facilities, and conference we have to offer. Boosting Harriman to some outrageous number and not the other coaches sends the wrong message. Once again it seems doubtful that he leaves at this point anyway unless it's for a head coaching position. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Think his son has a lot to do with staying here. The challenge of turning this program around helps. And I think that Roibin Washut is also spot on that it would have been a lateral step and Harriman's next step is a head coach. Actually, that wasn't Washut https://twitter.com/DevaneyDungeon/status/363337010758430720'> Dude, nice scope. And my bad on who I heard it from. Quote
NUdiehard Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 $250k, not counting the exceptions, is about the top salary for an Div I assistant so Harriman is towards the top of group. I like Harriman a lot but I think Kenya Hunter is proof of the sort of assistant we can get with the money, facilities, and conference we have to offer. There are certainly assistant coaches that make more than this. As I said above, the K state coach (can't remember his name right now for some reason) was paid approx. $500,000, and this was years ago under Frank Martin. The salaries of HC in both BB and FB have been skyrocketing lately. I guarantee you it is only a matter of a few years until assistant coaches salaries increase sizably as well. NU should stay ahead of the curve on this, not behind. We have to in order to stay competitive. NU is trying to build a program and losing an ace recruiter could be a serious setback. We have a lot ot offer, but so do a lot of other schools, and those schools can also tout tradition and banners. We just lost an assistant coach to Minnesota, so let's not fool ourselves. Boosting Harriman to some outrageous number and not the other coaches sends the wrong message. Tim Beck got a significant pay raise this year while the other coaches did not. His salary increased from $365,000 to $700,000. Coach Brown has been coaching longer than any of them, but his salary is significantly less than Beck's (well less than one-half). This isn't gradeschool. We can't worry about being fair or whose feelings it will hurt. The market sets the coaches value. Once again it seems doubtful that he leaves at this point anyway unless it's for a head coaching position. Harriman is highly sought after and next time it might be a Kansas, or UNC, or Mich. St. or Ohio St. I think it is unrealistic to think he will only leave for a HC position. Unless we give him strong incentive to stay, he will take the next best step to a higher program, even if that is another assistant coaching position. Look at all the moves he has already made. Do we really think he is going to stop here? 5 years ago NOBODY would have thought NU would pay an ASSISTANT football coach $700,000/yr. Times change fast. NU needs to stay ahead of the curve, especially in basketball if we want to become relevant nationally. Quote
hhcmatt Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Harriman is highly sought after and next time it might be a Kansas, or UNC, or Mich. St. or Ohio St. I think it is unrealistic to think he will only leave for a HC position. Unless we give him strong incentive to stay, he will take the next best step to a higher program, even if that is another assistant coaching position. Look at all the moves he has already made. Do we really think he is going to stop here? Can you tell me what the top paid assistants in the BiG 10 make? Quote
Huskerpapa Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Well we know we have good assistants cause teams want them...nice! Silverbacked1 and hhcmatt 2 Quote
cipsucks Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 hhcdimes:I didn't mean to imply it wasn't done or that we were perfect- just that it might be bad form. Does this mean it might be ok to make a play for a friend's fiancee? Of course I would have to find a friend first... Been eyeballing the Shim Shams again, haven't you jimmy...... Row6Seat10 and Silverbacked1 2 Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Hill made $420 at Kansas State and now makes $300 at Maryland so he has taken a major pay cut. Cant find much on Big coaches. Michigan's top assistants both make $160 from an article I found. It's impossible to say with 100 percent certainty that Jankovich is college basketball's highest-paid assistant coach because private schools don't have to publicly reveal employee salaries, but $700,000 a year is far-and-away the highest reported income. Top assistant coaches at elite programs seldom receive more than $250,000 per year and most earn far less than that. So Jankovich is now the top asst but SMU hired him away to be the coach in waiting for SMU when Larry brown leaves shortly. The different font is from a Yahoo article. The bolded portion is really what needs to be looked at. Quote
Bugeaters1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Shouldn't it be considered bad form to try and poach an assistant from a team in your own conference? Just wondering. Someone should tell that to Minnesota. BTW, where did Nebraska get their last assistant football coach from again? AH Iowa ? hhcmatt 1 Quote
trickey Posted August 3, 2013 Report Posted August 3, 2013 Think his son has a lot to do with staying here. The challenge of turning this program around helps. And I think that Roibin Washut is also spot on that it would have been a lateral step and Harriman's next step is a head coach. Actually, that wasn't Washut Dimes, Is this this Nebrasketball dude pissin' you off ...'cause he is acting like he is just as smart as you! Quote
Norm Peterson Posted August 6, 2013 Report Posted August 6, 2013 Think his son has a lot to do with staying here. The challenge of turning this program around helps. And I think that Roibin Washut is also spot on that it would have been a lateral step and Harriman's next step is a head coach. Actually, that wasn't Washut Dimes, Is this this Nebrasketball dude pissin' you off ...'cause he is acting like he is just as smart as you! Even copied Dimes' avatar. Who does this Nebrasketball guy think he is?!! hhcmatt 1 Quote
49r Posted August 6, 2013 Report Posted August 6, 2013 Think his son has a lot to do with staying here. The challenge of turning this program around helps. And I think that Roibin Washut is also spot on that it would have been a lateral step and Harriman's next step is a head coach. Actually, that wasn't Washut Dimes, Is this this Nebrasketball dude pissin' you off ...'cause he is acting like he is just as smart as you! Even copied Dimes' avatar. Who does this Nebrasketball guy think he is?!! Quicken Loans? up high, Norm! hhcmatt 1 Quote
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