Huskers Sell out Public Tickets at Pinnicle Bank

[Nebrasketballer]

As far as "risking the sellout" I think that what Nebrasketballer meant to say was that by having too much capacity, i.e. supply, you can actually negatively affect demand for your product.  To the point that it erodes your core fan base down to a tiny level (unless that product plays at a championship level).

 

That's why it's important to see how many people they can get on the waiting list for season tix, how many people they get to renew, etc.

Thank you.  I obviously wasn't trying to compare Nebraska basketball selling out this season to the football sell out streak.

[Silverbacked1]

 

 

 

One wonders how long it will be before they begin serious planning towards building the rest of the upper deck out.  IIRC, they decided after only one season that Qwest arena was in need of expansion and they went ahead and put the rest of the seats in.

Do you know what the capacity of the arena would be if they expanded the upper deck?  I wonder if Nebraska basketball would want to risk the sellout by adding seats.  But on the other hand, the potential revenue would be even greater for big games if they were able to sell them out.  It's an interesting thought though. 

 

 

Don't know why I neg-repped you there, I didn't mean to.  Must have slipped when I hit the quote button.

 

I have heard that building out the rest of the upper deck would push capacity to about 18k...not sure about the voracity of those claims, but it would be nice if we could get to that point.

 

That would be pretty impressive if Nebrasketball could sell out 18k

 

Is this where I insert the "if we sell alcohol" line we can take this another 20 pages or more?

[uneblinstu]

If the next two seasons go as I think Miles expects, there will be discussion about filling that in.  We're not really to the point of this being a significant discussion.

[Nebrasketballer]

 

 

One wonders how long it will be before they begin serious planning towards building the rest of the upper deck out.  IIRC, they decided after only one season that Qwest arena was in need of expansion and they went ahead and put the rest of the seats in.

Do you know what the capacity of the arena would be if they expanded the upper deck?  I wonder if Nebraska basketball would want to risk the sellout by adding seats.  But on the other hand, the potential revenue would be even greater for big games if they were able to sell them out.  It's an interesting thought though. 

 

Haha, "risk the sellout"? We don't have the nation's longest sellout streak, like football. We don't have ANY streak. Why we would worry about it "risking the sellout"?

 

Do you not think that keeping the demand high for volleball tickets is a large part of reducing capacity at Devaney?

[49r]

I heard that they have over 2k on the volleyball wait list as it stands now.  I think the Devaney reconfiguration had more to do about building suites than anything.

[49r]

If the next two seasons go as I think Miles expects, there will be discussion about filling that in.  We're not really to the point of this being a significant discussion.

 

I think it's something that warrants planning though.  By all accounts most people would have been happy to go into next season with 11k season tickets sold, but they blew through what was at one time considered a fairly optimistic estimate and sold the dang thing out.

 

Now, it's true that we need momentum on the court to sustain momentum in ticket demand, which would ultimately force the hand of expansion in the arena...but it's gotta be something they have contingencies for already.

[uneblinstu]

Planning in terms of what?  I'd almost guarantee the architects already have the plans drawn up for what the addition will be.  It'd just be a matter of how long will they wait before they do it.

[Nebrasketballer]

I heard that they have over 2k on the volleyball wait list as it stands now.  I think the Devaney reconfiguration had more to do about building suites than anything.

Yeah, I agree that the upgrades including suites automatically took the capacity down.  But they also took the capacity down further, even though there is a waiting list for volleyball tickets.

 

The details are still being finalized, but the Sports Center is expected to have between 6,000 and 7,000 seats for volleyball matches, according to John Ingram, associate athletic director for capital planning and construction. A curtain in the upper sections will allow more seats to become available to meet demand.

 

http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/volleyball/one-more-season-at-nu-coliseum-then-a-volleyball-upgrade/article_216cc050-a40c-55b4-b44f-40fc3509e421.html

 

 

To me, the reason for putting the curtain in the upper section to limit seating, even though there are 2k on the volleyball wait list, is to keep the demand for the ticket as high as possible. Otherwise, there would be no reason to limit capacity at all.

[49r]

Planning in terms of what?  I'd almost guarantee the architects already have the plans drawn up for what the addition will be.  It'd just be a matter of how long will they wait before they do it.

 

Planning in terms of concert/event schedules needing to be shut down while construction is ongoing.  I don't remember too much of the details (as I was living on the east coast with limited access to local news) of the Qwest expansion, but I would imagine it was pretty disruptive.

 

At any event, my guess is best case scenario, they won't be feeling any pressure to build out the rest of the arena for years yet.  Still, we haven't had a lot of discussion around here the past couple of weeks and I wanted to keep the board moving forward...

[Daledangdarn]

 

Planning in terms of what?  I'd almost guarantee the architects already have the plans drawn up for what the addition will be.  It'd just be a matter of how long will they wait before they do it.

 

Planning in terms of concert/event schedules needing to be shut down while construction is ongoing.  I don't remember too much of the details (as I was living on the east coast with limited access to local news) of the Qwest expansion, but I would imagine it was pretty disruptive.

 

At any event, my guess is best case scenario, they won't be feeling any pressure to build out the rest of the arena for years yet.  Still, we haven't had a lot of discussion around here the past couple of weeks and I wanted to keep the board moving forward...

 

 

The Qwest expansion actually ended up being pretty unintrusive when they did it, things get done very fast when they have to.

[Creighton Fan]

 

 

One wonders how long it will be before they begin serious planning towards building the rest of the upper deck out.  IIRC, they decided after only one season that Qwest arena was in need of expansion and they went ahead and put the rest of the seats in.

Do you know what the capacity of the arena would be if they expanded the upper deck?  I wonder if Nebraska basketball would want to risk the sellout by adding seats.  But on the other hand, the potential revenue would be even greater for big games if they were able to sell them out.  It's an interesting thought though. 

 

 

Don't know why I neg-repped you there, I didn't mean to.  Must have slipped when I hit the quote button.

 

I have heard that building out the rest of the upper deck would push capacity to about 18k...not sure about the voracity of those claims, but it would be nice if we could get to that point.

 

 

 

 

One wonders how long it will be before they begin serious planning towards building the rest of the upper deck out.  IIRC, they decided after only one season that Qwest arena was in need of expansion and they went ahead and put the rest of the seats in.

Do you know what the capacity of the arena would be if they expanded the upper deck?  I wonder if Nebraska basketball would want to risk the sellout by adding seats.  But on the other hand, the potential revenue would be even greater for big games if they were able to sell them out.  It's an interesting thought though. 

 

 

Don't know why I neg-repped you there, I didn't mean to.  Must have slipped when I hit the quote button.

 

I have heard that building out the rest of the upper deck would push capacity to about 18k...not sure about the voracity of those claims, but it would be nice if we could get to that point.

 

I could be wrong about this, but I recall when the Lincoln arena was first proposed, there was a newspaper article that indicated that there was some sort of obscure state law that requires the Omaha arena to be the biggest in the state.  Once again, I think, but could be wrong, the justification given had something to do with the unique tax incentives used to finance the Omaha arena.  Basically, the state wanted to make sure that there wouldn't be anything else built within the state that could potentially interfere with the tax revenues to be generated by the Omaha arena.

[49r]

I could be wrong about this, but I recall when the Lincoln arena was first proposed, there was a newspaper article that indicated that there was some sort of obscure state law that requires the Omaha arena to be the biggest in the state.  Once again, I think, but could be wrong, the justification given had something to do with the unique tax incentives used to finance the Omaha arena.  Basically, the state wanted to make sure that there wouldn't be anything else built within the state that could potentially interfere with the tax revenues to be generated by the Omaha arena.

 

 

You aren't wrong.  The way it worked was this.  In order to get the state to approve the turn-back tax (a necessity to get the financing needed to build the west haymarket project), the arena could not exceed the Century Link center (or Qwest as it was then) in number of seats.

 

As I understand it though, they did NOT put any specific restrictions on expansion of the arena.  In other words, a loophole.  The architects designed it then (just as Qwest was) with future expansion in mind.

 

Interestingly enough, they didn't get within a couple thousand seats of Century Link on the original design, but the expansion, as I understand it would potentially make the PBA larger.  Now, I could be wrong.  I often am.  It's very possible that the PBA, after expansion, would still be a shade smaller than Century Link.  If I have the energy I may sift through some old info and see if I can't come up with a more concrete answer.

[Norm Peterson]

Considering that a remodel project is far more expensive than original construction, I really wished they would have closed that end in during the initial construction.  For as big as the place is (compared to Devaney) it's surprising that it only has a couple thousand more seats.  I would think you'd have wanted at least another 4,000 seats in order to justify the cost of replacing the old place.

[cipsucks]

Never Frickin' Mind. 

 

On a completely unrelated note, you'll be happy to know cip's salsa garden was planted yesterday and is really enjoying the summer-like temperatures.....

[AuroranHusker]

Planning in terms of what?  I'd almost guarantee the architects already have the plans drawn up for what the addition will be.  It'd just be a matter of how long will they wait before they do it.

 

Only schematic sketches are performed by architectural designers during initial planning for the upper seating bowl, which was determined 3,000 seats might be filled in later for the north endzone of the facility... most of the architecture/engineering would take place once funding was completed. Same procedure happened for the Qwest Center expansion.

[AuroranHusker]

 

I could be wrong about this, but I recall when the Lincoln arena was first proposed, there was a newspaper article that indicated that there was some sort of obscure state law that requires the Omaha arena to be the biggest in the state.  Once again, I think, but could be wrong, the justification given had something to do with the unique tax incentives used to finance the Omaha arena.  Basically, the state wanted to make sure that there wouldn't be anything else built within the state that could potentially interfere with the tax revenues to be generated by the Omaha arena.

 

 

You aren't wrong.  The way it worked was this.  In order to get the state to approve the turn-back tax (a necessity to get the financing needed to build the west haymarket project), the arena could not exceed the Century Link center (or Qwest as it was then) in number of seats.

 

As I understand it though, they did NOT put any specific restrictions on expansion of the arena.  In other words, a loophole.  The architects designed it then (just as Qwest was) with future expansion in mind.

 

Interestingly enough, they didn't get within a couple thousand seats of Century Link on the original design, but the expansion, as I understand it would potentially make the PBA larger.  Now, I could be wrong.  I often am.  It's very possible that the PBA, after expansion, would still be a shade smaller than Century Link.  If I have the energy I may sift through some old info and see if I can't come up with a more concrete answer.

 

 

That sounds fairly accurate.

 

And, if I recall correctly, Lincoln's arena could be nearly identical in size to Omaha's after full expansion. Both would be in the 18,000 range...

[Nebrasketballer]

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[Nebrasketballer]

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[49r]

 

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my thoughts exactly!

[cipsucks]

I like to wear women's lingerie while dreaming about going for a walk in the park with Christian Standhardinger.

 

Never leave a blank canvas for others to paint on.....   

[Nebrasketballer]

 

I like to wear women's lingerie while dreaming about going for a walk in the park with Christian Standhardinger.

 

Never leave a blank canvas for others to paint on.....   

 

Haha.  Don't knock it until you try it...