Bracketology 2024/2025

[LincecumFan]

2 hours ago, nustudent said:

Which is disgusting 

C'mon dude, look up the word "disgusting". It maybe turned out to be unfortunate, but it wasn't disgusting. Use your freaking brain once in awhile.

[nustudent]

30 minutes ago, LincecumFan said:

C'mon dude, look up the word "disgusting". It maybe turned out to be unfortunate, but it wasn't disgusting. Use your freaking brain once in awhile.

It’s horrible roster management if it’s true.   You should be able to find a pretty good player for $500k+.   Again, if the rumors are true on that.  
 

We supposedly didn’t/couldnt write the check for Chuckie, but we spent over a million on Berke and Meah.    That’s a very poor choice.  

Edited March 18 by nustudent

[cornfed24-7]

53 minutes ago, LincecumFan said:

C'mon dude, look up the word "disgusting". It maybe turned out to be unfortunate, but it wasn't disgusting. Use your freaking brain once in awhile.

Seems appropriate to me

[LincecumFan]

29 minutes ago, nustudent said:

It’s horrible roster management if it’s true.   You should be able to find a pretty good player for $500k+.   Again, if the rumors are true on that.  
 

We supposedly didn’t/couldnt write the check for Chuckie, but we spent over a million on Berke and Meah.    That’s a very poor choice.  

First, let me say I shouldn't have added that last sentence. I admit it was uncalled for. My bad. I just thought "disgusting" was too strong a word to use for this situation.

 

And yes I know in hindsight it appears these roster additions didn't turn out as planned. But it's water under the bridge. I also recognize the coaches need to do a much better job during this upcoming portal season.

[nustudent]

3 minutes ago, LincecumFan said:

First, let me say I shouldn't have added that last sentence. I admit it was uncalled for. My bad. I just thought "disgusting" was too strong a word to use for this situation.

 

And yes I know in hindsight it appears these roster additions didn't turn out as planned. But it's water under the bridge. I also recognize the coaches need to do a much better job during this upcoming portal season.

Is it really hindsight though?   Both of those bigs have been nothing but mediocre for their college career.   
 

that’s not to say you can’t bring them in….but if your dropping over a mil on them…..you screwed up.  For that money, you should be finding significantly better options.  
 

Edited March 18 by nustudent

[hskr4life]

6 minutes ago, nustudent said:

Is it really hindsight though?   Both of those bigs have been nothing but mediocre for their college career.   
 

that’s not to say you can’t bring them in….but if your dropping over a mil on them…..you screwed up.  For that money, you should be finding significantly better options.  
 

We did add Meah close to June and Berke in June/July. Someone mentioned teams getting desperate and overpaying later in the portal cycle on here. So I’m sure we didn’t *want* to pay that much for both. Chuckie we were recruiting in April, so not totally apples to apples, but I get what you’re saying.

Edited March 18 by hskr4life

[nustudent]

9 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

We did add Meah close to June and Berke in June/July. Someone mentioned teams getting desperate and overpaying later in the portal cycle on here. So I’m sure we didn’t *want* to pay that much for both. Chuckie we were recruiting in April, so not totally apples to apples, but I get what you’re saying.

I understand that.   But we should’ve known what was out there and what we needed.   Open the purse earlier and it saves you what you occurred.   You had Brice at a good cost.    You wasted him by being cheap early.   We went all in on Rollie way too early as well.  He was never going to be in high demand.  You basically had Ulis on board for being your shitty shooting, turnover making distributor.   
 

and I don’t think Rollie was a terrible add. But not as early as we did.  Especially given what we paid for others and what Chuckie reportedly got paid.  

could’ve been a top 10 season in school history but you pretended Berke and Meah were good because you misplayed things and got desperate 

Edited March 18 by nustudent

[GhostOfJoeMcCray]

42 minutes ago, nustudent said:

I understand that.   But we should’ve known what was out there and what we needed.   Open the purse earlier and it saves you what you occurred.   You had Brice at a good cost.    You wasted him by being cheap early.   We went all in on Rollie way too early as well.  He was never going to be in high demand.  You basically had Ulis on board for being your shitty shooting, turnover making distributor.   
 

and I don’t think Rollie was a terrible add. But not as early as we did.  Especially given what we paid for others and what Chuckie reportedly got paid.  

could’ve been a top 10 season in school history but you pretended Berke and Meah were good because you misplayed things and got desperate 

Unfortunately, this is correct. We didn’t get some of the guys we brought in and ended up desperate and overpaid to get Berke and Braxton. 
 

The highest paid player on a Big Ten team shouldn’t be a career 4.9 and 4.4 big man from Fresno State/Washington. 
 

I hope we do a better job being aggressive with some studs right away this year. The way I see it we have 4 starting lineup spots up for grabs. Our money better be heavily spent on dudes who can score the ball. wait too long to lock in some dudes and you’re at risk of spending the same money on players who aren’t as good. 

Edited March 18 by GhostOfJoeMcCray

[nustudent]

12 minutes ago, GhostOfJoeMcCray said:

Unfortunately, this is correct. We didn’t get some of the guys we brought in and ended up desperate and overpaid to get Berke and Braxton. 
 

The highest paid player on a Big Ten team shouldn’t be a career 4.9 and 4.4 big man from Fresno State/Washington. 
 

I hope we do a better job being aggressive with some studs right away this year. The way I see it we have 4 starting lineup spots up for grabs. Our money better be heavily spent on dudes who can score the ball. wait too long to lock in some dudes and you’re at risk of spending the same money on players who aren’t as good. 

We need to be dropping the bag on a legit point card and an explosive power forward to pair with Mast.   A season can be a good role player in the starting lineup.   And wings are relatively easy to find.   A legit point guard and a legit power forward or two things that we have never really had consistently under Hoberg, and that’s where we need to spend.    You add those two things to go alongside Mast and you’ve got a very nice core.

 

Berke isn’t a focal point. He’s a role player at best.   And he can be a nice role player because of his ability to be somewhat effective at both the four and the five.   He’s just not good enough to occupy one spot or the other.   He can still get 20 to 25 minutes per game in a backup role.   

Edited March 18 by nustudent

[Nebrasketball1979]

1 hour ago, cornfed24-7 said:

Seems appropriate to me

I honestly had no idea that Meah had poor oral hygiene.  If true, I do hope he uses some of his NIL money to get that addressed.

[HuskerFever]

9 minutes ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

I honestly had no idea that Meah had poor oral hygiene.  If true, I do hope he uses some of his NIL money to get that addressed.

 

That finally explains why this logo is on our court...

 

[Vinny]

I agree we likely overpaid for Meah. 

 

If Berke stays and gets closer to his ceiling, we won't have overpaid. His stats we're trending up pretty significantly before he missed time and they were still up with his bad stretch after injury factored in. Another jump next year is likely in order.

[hskr4life]

Just now, Vinny said:

I agree we likely overpaid for Meah. 

 

If Berke stays and gets closer to his ceiling, we won't have overpaid. His stats we're trending up pretty significantly before he missed time and they were still up with his bad stretch after injury factored in. Another jump next year is likely in order.

It’s definitely unfair to discuss whether we overpaid someone who still can provide for us in future years. If NIL was big 3 years ago, we would have been told we overpaid for Keisei. Same for players like Tai Webster, Ubel, etc. 

[nustudent]

14 minutes ago, Vinny said:

I agree we likely overpaid for Meah. 

 

If Berke stays and gets closer to his ceiling, we won't have overpaid. His stats we're trending up pretty significantly before he missed time and they were still up with his bad stretch after injury factored in. Another jump next year is likely in order.

Were his stats trending up?   He had the one good game vs Ohio State.  I wouldn’t call that a trend.  
 

I’d also argue that worrying about his future production is somewhat off base as well.    We had an opportunity to build some success with Brice and Juwan coming back.  Being successful in the moment is and was more impactful than what may happen down the line.    Especially given Fred’s complete inability to do anything in the high school ranks, future roster building has relatively but nonexistent. I don’t see why we’re all the sudden worrying about it now with a mediocre player in Berke.   

Edited March 18 by nustudent

[Vinny]

38 minutes ago, nustudent said:

Were his stats trending up?   He had the one good game vs Ohio State.  I wouldn’t call that a trend.  
 

I’d also argue that worrying about his future production is somewhat off base as well.    We had an opportunity to build some success with Brice and Juwan coming back.  Being successful in the moment is and was more impactful than what may happen down the line.    Especially given Fred’s complete inability to do anything in the high school ranks, future roster building has relatively but nonexistent. I don’t see why we’re all the sudden worrying about it now with a mediocre player in Berke.   

His rebounds more than doubled, his assists tripled, blocks and steals up, his shooting percentages were all up even with the post injury slump. Before the injury he was low 30s on three. If he can hit 35% next year he creates a lot of space. He’s not far off being a difference maker.

 

If “worrying” about future production is off base, let’s close up recruiting and portal discussion permanently. 

[nustudent]

Just now, Vinny said:

His rebounds more than doubled, his assists tripled, blocks and steals up, his shooting percentages were all up even with the post injury slump. Before the injury he was low 30s on three. If he can hit 35% next year he creates a lot of space. He’s not far off being a difference maker.

 

If “worrying” about future production is off base, let’s close up recruiting and portal discussion permanently. 

35% is a stretch for a guy who has yet to shoot 30%.  
 

If you can find a guy with multiple years who is legit….that’s fine.   But when you turn over 60%+ of your roster each year and your high school recruiting/retention is non-existent, it seems odd that you waste your last year of Bruce and Juwan in favor of an extra year of Berke down the road.  

[Huskerpapa]

Meah should never been brought in.  That is not a reflexion on him or his play.  He simply was not a fit to our schemes; and frankly there were no adjustments made to fit his game.

 

Berke on the other hand does seem to be a good fit.  He was only a sophomore and seems to fit our schemes.  He has an upside that can be leveraged and he has potential for growth.  Lest we forget, he was one of our better defenders.  

 

Morgan played well in spurts .  He should have been a 10 to 12 minute player; but was certainly mediocre in his more enhanced role.