KenPom 2015-2016 KenPom Rankings Thread

[AuroranHusker]

You oughtta know what they call me on that 'other' board!  (but I'll never tell!  )  (ps; it's not Walter.)

 

What other board? The bluejay board?! 

[AuroranHusker]

Today, it's URI #47, Creighton #67 and us #107.

 

If we beat those two teams, do we climb into the top 100 and stay there the rest of the year?

 

Yep, I'd say so.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

 

Considering Nebraska beat Tennessee by 11 less than a week ago makes one wonder why TN is at #92 and NU at #97?!

 

 

Hmmmmm.....

Head to head does not matter in KenPom. All games are considered equal. If Team A has played 10 games and Team B has played 10 games, even if they have played each other, that game will only count 1/10 toward the overall rating for both teams (actually less than that because earlier in the season, the ranking is still credibility-weighted against the preseason ranking).

 

 

Thanks for the explanation, '9er & Actuary. I wondered about the nuts & bolts of that KenPom. It just seems 'wrong' at the moment; Guess it'll work itself out over the long haul of the season...

 

The idea is that in basketball, you get many more data points over the course of the season to judge how good a team is. In football, you only get 12 games. Therefore, head to head will by default need to be more used in football when comparing teams.

 

 

I understand the nuanced difference between sports. KenPom is the guy who places a heavy premium on prior years' results, which seems set up for early-season failures, IMHO. Like I wrote earlier, I'd guess that will all work itself out in the long run.

[Red Don]

 

You oughtta know what they call me on that 'other' board!  (but I'll never tell!  )  (ps; it's not Walter.)

 

What other board? The bluejay board?! 

 

 

What's a bluejay? 

[lanigan123]

Winning the next two would be huge.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

You oughtta know what they call me on that 'other' board!  (but I'll never tell!  )  (ps; it's not Walter.)

 

What other board? The bluejay board?! 

 

 

What's a bluejay? 

 

 

You know, Toronto's baseball team. And an eastern Omaha team as well.

[AuroranHusker]

Winning the next two would be huge.

 

 

Since the other 3 games against highly regarded teams didn't go NU's way, the next couple would be a nice consolation, so to speak.

[Red Don]

 

 

 

You oughtta know what they call me on that 'other' board!  (but I'll never tell!  )  (ps; it's not Walter.)

 

What other board? The bluejay board?! 

 

 

What's a bluejay? 

 

 

You know, Toronto's baseball team. And an eastern Omaha team as well.

 

 

Sorry, I wouldn't know 'em!  (It's like, you know, a football board. )

[uneblinstu]

 

 

 

You oughtta know what they call me on that 'other' board!  (but I'll never tell!  )  (ps; it's not Walter.)

 

What other board? The bluejay board?! 

 

 

What's a bluejay? 

 

 

You know, Toronto's baseball team. And an eastern Omaha team as well.

 

No, that's not right. the team in Toronto are the Blue Jays. The dictionary, nor any other reference location has any entry for what a Bluejay is.

[49r]

RPI Forecast has the URI game as a pick 'em right now.  50% chance of winning with a 0.1 point spread in our favor.  They also predict an NU win total of 15 or 16.  Gonna be rough sledding to the NIT unless things turn around in conference play I'm afraid.

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-10-15.

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B1G (0-0):

3. Purdue

6. Michigan State

15. Maryland

18. Iowa

25. Indiana

37. Wisconsin

39. Michigan

55. Ohio State

61. Northwestern

90. Illinois

110. Nebraska

128. Minnesota

160. Penn State

250. Rutgers

 

Non-Conference (6-4):

347. Mississippi Valley State - W

 

---Gavitt Tipoff Games---

5. @Villanova - L

 

346. Delaware State - W

 

---Barclay's Center Classic---

323. Southeastern Louisiana - W

336. Arkansas Pine-Bluff - W

21. Cincinnati - L

93. Tennessee - W

 

---B1G/ACC Challenge---

13. Miami - L

 

341. Abilene Christian - W

59. @Creighton - L

47. Rhode Island

229. Samford

344. Prairie View A&M

[HuskerFever]

I mean... we haven't lost a "bad" game, but we're going to have to pull out some of these games at some point.

[49r]

I mean, here is where we stood after ten games a year ago:

 

http://huskerhoopscentral.com/topic/5971-2014-2015-kenpom-rankings-thread/page-5#entry96786

 

Take a look and see if you can tell the difference.  It's not much, but it's clear this year's team is a better team.

[Red Don]

I think one difference is, last year we were a team that seemed to get worse as the season progressed.  This year I think we will get better with each game.

 

I do like our chances vs Rhode Island.

 

1) @ Home vs Away  (when was the last time an opposing crowd rushed the court after defeating us?)

2) A critical game to win for our post-season prospects.

3) Motivation to avenge last year's last minute OT loss (and, in my mind the start of our slide, & URI's rise).

4) A lot of players on this team well-remember last years loss.

5) And don't forget (former) coach Burno's ties to the Hurleys.

 

This could be our wake-up call, after losing to Creighton the way we did.

[Fullbacksympathy]

HUGE game with RI.  Gotta have it.  I'd call the non-con a success if we beat them.  

[uneblinstu]

 

1) @ Home vs Away  (when was the last time an opposing crowd rushed the court after defeating us?)

Last year at Rhode Island.

[49r]

Not much change this week.  We're on the verge of sliding up another spot in the B1G order of things.

 

KenPom rankings as of 12-14-15.

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B1G (0-0):

3. Purdue

7. Michigan State

13. Iowa

19. Maryland

24. Indiana

36. Michigan

42. Wisconsin

55. Ohio State

71. Northwestern

109. Illinois

110. Nebraska

134. Minnesota

148. Penn State

252. Rutgers

 

Non-Conference (7-4):

346. Mississippi Valley State - W

 

---Gavitt Tipoff Games---

4. @Villanova - L

 

345. Delaware State - W

 

---Barclay's Center Classic---

317. Southeastern Louisiana - W

331. Arkansas Pine-Bluff - W

21. Cincinnati - L

83. Tennessee - W

 

---B1G/ACC Challenge---

12. Miami - L

 

341. Abilene Christian - W

58. @Creighton - L

49. Rhode Island - W

213. Samford

343. Prairie View A&M

[hskr4life]

Interested as to why we are not in the top 100?  We do not have a bad loss, and we have two pretty good wins.  One of which is on a neutral floor.

[aphilso1]

Interested as to why we are not in the top 100?  We do not have a bad loss, and we have two pretty good wins.  One of which is on a neutral floor.

 

Probably because 5 of our 7 wins are against teams with a 300+ ranking, and we are only 2-4 against the top 300. 

[Norm Peterson]

 

Interested as to why we are not in the top 100?  We do not have a bad loss, and we have two pretty good wins.  One of which is on a neutral floor.

 

Probably because 5 of our 7 wins are against teams with a 300+ ranking, and we are only 2-4 against the top 300. 

 

1-4 against the top 60.  1-3 against the top 50.

[hhcmatt]

Interested as to why we are not in the top 100?  We do not have a bad loss, and we have two pretty good wins.  One of which is on a neutral floor.

 

How we win or lose matters just as much as whether we win or lose for these ratings

[uneblinstu]

Man, so stinking close to having 3 top 50 wins...

 

Does RI stay that high all year?

[Red Don]

Inexplicably, I believe Northwestern jumped to #56 in this mornings rankings (as of end of Sunday's games) and Ohio State fell to #71.  (More potential victims for the improving Huskers.)

[AuroranHusker]

Found this rating on twitter (via @AMSTS): http://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings/

 

1 #Spartans

3 #Purdue

29 #Terps

30 #Hawkeyes

35 #IUBB

37 #Wildcats

51 #Wolverines

88 #Nebrasketball

98 #Badgers

107 #PennState

117 #Illini

121 #Buckeyes

145 #Gophers

244 #Rutgers

[HuskerFever]

Found this rating on twitter (via @AMSTS): http://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings/

 

1 #Spartans

3 #Purdue

29 #Terps

30 #Hawkeyes

35 #IUBB

37 #Wildcats

51 #Wolverines

88 #Nebrasketball

98 #Badgers

107 #PennState

117 #Illini

121 #Buckeyes

145 #Gophers

244 #Rutgers

 

According to his 'about me' it looks like he has the potential for some Big Ten bias (whether there is or not): "To be clear: I am a fan of the Baltimore Orioles, Miami Dolphins, Arizona Coyotes, and Purdue Boilermakers in the US..."

[AuroranHusker]

 

Found this rating on twitter (via @AMSTS): http://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings/

 

1 #Spartans

3 #Purdue

29 #Terps

30 #Hawkeyes

35 #IUBB

37 #Wildcats

51 #Wolverines

88 #Nebrasketball

98 #Badgers

107 #PennState

117 #Illini

121 #Buckeyes

145 #Gophers

244 #Rutgers

 

According to his 'about me' it looks like he has the potential for some Big Ten bias (whether there is or not): "To be clear: I am a fan of the Baltimore Orioles, Miami Dolphins, Arizona Coyotes, and Purdue Boilermakers in the US..."

 

 

Did you look at this website, though? It seems to involve a fairly involved formula.