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Huskerpapa

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The carry called on Terran may technically been the right call, but it is like the three second rule, it simply appears to be an afterthought call made at strange times.  They could make calls like that way more often, and they (the refs) choose not to, so when those calls are made, they seem misplaced and flat out wrong.  They become momentum changers and have NO place in the game.  The game should be won and lost by the players making plays, not by a referee who simply wants to adjust the flow of the game. 

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uneblinstu
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Huskerpapa
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I don't know who he is, and I am pretty sure he does not appear in these pages, but God Bless the gentleman sitting next to me tonight at the start of the game.  He had to be taken out by the perimedi

RedEyedFanatic
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It was nice to win despite the refs. I could not believe some of those calls

AuroranHusker

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The carry called on Terran may technically been the right call, but it is like the three second rule, it simply appears to be an afterthought call made at strange times.  They could make calls like that way more often, and they (the refs) choose not to, so when those calls are made, they seem misplaced and flat out wrong.  They become momentum changers and have NO place in the game.  The game should be won and lost by the players making plays, not by a referee who simply wants to adjust the flow of the game.

It's more the fact that TP did the exact same motion (albeit a carry) that went uncalled... why is it suddenly a violation?... choosing to call the 2nd & not the 1st is poor refereeing. Plain & simple.

Dean Smith

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I get a kick out of Miles leaning back on the scorer's table waiting for the big screen replay on questionable calls. Like he's just double-checking to make sure he's right before he blows a gasket. Some calls last night were horrible. Was not surprised that Illinois was already in the bonus with 12 minutes left in the game considering they were playing offense on Groce's half of the court.

That was on the carrying call on Petteway (that I also disagreed with) but then they never showed the replay. #bigscreenproblems. Of course Miles will get to see the film and I won't. But the bad ref made that call and Miles might have wanted to pick up his 1st T if the replay had shown the call was a bad one.

You were probably at the game Norm. I couldn't make it so I watched on TV and Miles leaned back and looked at the big screen on a handful of calls, not just the carry (which was a good call, btw, and one that they got Illinois for later as well). BTN showed him after every questionable call and he did it all the time on blocks/charges, handchecks, etc. It was pretty funny. Of course I was losing my mind, so kudos to him for being at least more patient than I am.

Side note: last night was the first time I can remember this season our opponent getting called for an illegal screen. It seems to me that we get called for that at least once a game.

I hate that call. No, it wasn't the first. There was at least one other. But illegal screens happen all the time. All the time. And it only gets called at strange moments. Like in the last minute against Oregon a few years back they called one on Brandon Ubel. Like really? They've been doing it to us all game and then you choose this moment to suddenly care about illegal screens?

Minnesota was another game where they did it just all of the time. That Smith kid or whatever his name was who scored about 30 on us, Ray was chasing him around screens all night long and their screener would throw a hip into Ray or move over into him to give that guy just enough separation to get off a 3 pointer. And that's how they drew closer towards the end.

Damn frustrating when they call us for that given how often it gets ignored. And we generally get the short end because our offense isn't predicated on curling shooters around screens to get them open for a catch-and-shoot 3. And when your chaser gets picked by a guy who throws a hip into him, freeing up the shooter, that's supposed to be a foul. Right?

The sad part is, this is how it is with most calls. A lot of things will go uncalled until the coach asks for it to be watched, like 3 seconds. Refs will almost never call it until a coach says "Watch 42, he's camping in the lane all day." Sure enough, you'll get the call in the next couple possessions. Referees have so many things to watch for that sometimes it's all about the coach just making refs aware. It's a lot of politics. It sucks, but it is.

You might be right but not about the 3 second call. Good officials just won't call it. Tell 42 to move out of the lane, he does & they gets to keep playing.

Preventive officiating makes the call unnecessary.

Dean Smith

Dean Smith

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I get a kick out of Miles leaning back on the scorer's table waiting for the big screen replay on questionable calls. Like he's just double-checking to make sure he's right before he blows a gasket. Some calls last night were horrible. Was not surprised that Illinois was already in the bonus with 12 minutes left in the game considering they were playing offense on Groce's half of the court.

That was on the carrying call on Petteway (that I also disagreed with) but then they never showed the replay. #bigscreenproblems. Of course Miles will get to see the film and I won't. But the bad ref made that call and Miles might have wanted to pick up his 1st T if the replay had shown the call was a bad one.

You were probably at the game Norm. I couldn't make it so I watched on TV and Miles leaned back and looked at the big screen on a handful of calls, not just the carry (which was a good call, btw, and one that they got Illinois for later as well). BTN showed him after every questionable call and he did it all the time on blocks/charges, handchecks, etc. It was pretty funny. Of course I was losing my mind, so kudos to him for being at least more patient than I am.

Side note: last night was the first time I can remember this season our opponent getting called for an illegal screen. It seems to me that we get called for that at least once a game.

I hate that call. No, it wasn't the first. There was at least one other. But illegal screens happen all the time. All the time. And it only gets called at strange moments. Like in the last minute against Oregon a few years back they called one on Brandon Ubel. Like really? They've been doing it to us all game and then you choose this moment to suddenly care about illegal screens?

Minnesota was another game where they did it just all of the time. That Smith kid or whatever his name was who scored about 30 on us, Ray was chasing him around screens all night long and their screener would throw a hip into Ray or move over into him to give that guy just enough separation to get off a 3 pointer. And that's how they drew closer towards the end.

Damn frustrating when they call us for that given how often it gets ignored. And we generally get the short end because our offense isn't predicated on curling shooters around screens to get them open for a catch-and-shoot 3. And when your chaser gets picked by a guy who throws a hip into him, freeing up the shooter, that's supposed to be a foul. Right?

The sad part is, this is how it is with most calls. A lot of things will go uncalled until the coach asks for it to be watched, like 3 seconds. Refs will almost never call it until a coach says "Watch 42, he's camping in the lane all day." Sure enough, you'll get the call in the next couple possessions. Referees have so many things to watch for that sometimes it's all about the coach just making refs aware. It's a lot of politics. It sucks, but it is.

You might be right but not about the 3 second call. Good officials just won't call it. Tell 42 to move out of the lane, he does & they gets to keep playing.

Preventive officiating makes the call unnecessary.

GoBigRed

GoBigRed

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I get a kick out of Miles leaning back on the scorer's table waiting for the big screen replay on questionable calls. Like he's just double-checking to make sure he's right before he blows a gasket. Some calls last night were horrible. Was not surprised that Illinois was already in the bonus with 12 minutes left in the game considering they were playing offense on Groce's half of the court.

That was on the carrying call on Petteway (that I also disagreed with) but then they never showed the replay. #bigscreenproblems. Of course Miles will get to see the film and I won't. But the bad ref made that call and Miles might have wanted to pick up his 1st T if the replay had shown the call was a bad one.
You were probably at the game Norm. I couldn't make it so I watched on TV and Miles leaned back and looked at the big screen on a handful of calls, not just the carry (which was a good call, btw, and one that they got Illinois for later as well). BTN showed him after every questionable call and he did it all the time on blocks/charges, handchecks, etc. It was pretty funny. Of course I was losing my mind, so kudos to him for being at least more patient than I am.

Side note: last night was the first time I can remember this season our opponent getting called for an illegal screen. It seems to me that we get called for that at least once a game.

I hate that call. No, it wasn't the first. There was at least one other. But illegal screens happen all the time. All the time. And it only gets called at strange moments. Like in the last minute against Oregon a few years back they called one on Brandon Ubel. Like really? They've been doing it to us all game and then you choose this moment to suddenly care about illegal screens?

Minnesota was another game where they did it just all of the time. That Smith kid or whatever his name was who scored about 30 on us, Ray was chasing him around screens all night long and their screener would throw a hip into Ray or move over into him to give that guy just enough separation to get off a 3 pointer. And that's how they drew closer towards the end.

Damn frustrating when they call us for that given how often it gets ignored. And we generally get the short end because our offense isn't predicated on curling shooters around screens to get them open for a catch-and-shoot 3. And when your chaser gets picked by a guy who throws a hip into him, freeing up the shooter, that's supposed to be a foul. Right?

The sad part is, this is how it is with most calls. A lot of things will go uncalled until the coach asks for it to be watched, like 3 seconds. Refs will almost never call it until a coach says "Watch 42, he's camping in the lane all day." Sure enough, you'll get the call in the next couple possessions. Referees have so many things to watch for that sometimes it's all about the coach just making refs aware. It's a lot of politics. It sucks, but it is.
You might be right but not about the 3 second call. Good officials just won't call it. Tell 42 to move out of the lane, he does & they gets to keep playing.

Preventive officiating makes the call unnecessary.

I've seen and heard it happen. The problem with "good officials" is that not all of them are.

Coaches kid

Coaches kid

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That recap is much more balanced than some of the stuff I read on the Illinois scout site. They were all over Miles for fist-pumping after the shot clock violation - called him "bush league."  Also read comments like, "they won't beat us again," or "have fun getting to the NCAA tournament in 2020." I realize every fan base has jackasses, but much of the commentary was devoid of any basketball IQ.  

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