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TheKamdyMan

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taking 25 shots to score 25 points.. very Kobe esque

 

seems like thats the case for all but one game from the stats I could find.  The following game he went for 21 on 7 of 8.  The next game was 3 of 12 and the following game was 3 of 10.   He was 3 of 16 from 3 in the games there are stats recorded.  Seems like he has his work cut out for him beyond the arc.

hhcmatt

hhcmatt

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taking 25 shots to score 25 points.. very Kobe esque

Yeah not like his need for volume shots to score.

Oh well, at least he's trusted to do that and win!

 

That box score makes me think he's easily the best player on that team.  He also led the team in assists.

He also jacked up 2 shots with the game in hand in the last 26 seconds

Cell

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Webster would have defiantly been the teams best player. His shooting percentages were pretty bad and he turned the ball over alot, I would guess that this was mainly due to him having the ball in his hands 90% of the time.

 

Keep an eye out for Jack Salt. He is a 6'9, athletic big man that was on the New Zealand Under 20 team with Tai and is also a high school team mate of his. He is only 16/17 and would be a member of the 2014 recruiting class (I think).

 

He averaged 11.7ppg and 5.7rpg in a tournament that he is eligible to play in for another 2 years. In one game he scored 10pts (5-5 from the field) and had 7rbs, he was matched up against a 7'0 tall LSU commit.

 

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TheKamdyMan

TheKamdyMan

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saw an article talking about their U-25 team that is basically their olympic team and the coach's comment kind of made me laugh when he was talking about Tai, Steven Adams, and Rob Loe.

 

"I believe if they stay and play in our system we can actually make them better basketball players than if they go through the US college system."

 

Interesting they dont win more olympic qualifying games if that were the case.  :rolleyes: 

big red22

big red22

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taking 25 shots to score 25 points.. very Kobe esque

 

seems like thats the case for all but one game from the stats I could find.  The following game he went for 21 on 7 of 8.  The next game was 3 of 12 and the following game was 3 of 10.   He was 3 of 16 from 3 in the games there are stats recorded.  Seems like he has his work cut out for him beyond the arc.

That scares me a bit... shows inconsistency.  I do think that he is a game changer though, and wait to see him playing next year.  Pitchford is  who I am the most exited about though!

Cell

Cell

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saw an article talking about their U-25  team that is basically their olympic team and the coach's comment kind of made me laugh when he was talking about Tai, Steven Adams, and Rob Loe.

 

"I believe if they stay and play in our system we can actually make them better basketball players than if they go through the US college system."

 

Interesting they dont win more olympic qualifying games if that were the case.  :rolleyes: 

 

The "system" the coach is speaking of is through the New Zealand Breakers. They are a professional team that has only been around for 10 years and the development program has only really kicked in in the last couple years, so thats why the results haven't truly been seen yet.

 

I think that for some players staying in New Zealand is absolutely the best option for their development, getting beaten up by grown men every day will help some players get better compared with perhaps being a star against playing similar aged players. 

 

A couple New Zealand players that come to mind are Tom Abercrombie and Corey Webster (Tai's older brother), both spent a short time at college but did not like it, came home to New Zealand to play pro as a 20/21 year old and are now players that will do some damage on the international scene (and Abercrombie may get NBA looks).

 

One of the bigger recent cases of this is a player called Reuben Te Rangi, he was most likely going to go to a high major college but chose to play as the 11th man on the Breakers professional team as an 18 year old. In the first game he got decent minutes  (last week) he scored 13 points.

 

However players like Steven Adams (Pitt), Rob Loe (St Louis) and Isaac Fotu (Hawaii - Big West FOTY) have done well at colleges and may not have had the same results being a bench warmer in NZ.

 

This is an advantage I think international players have over US players, being able to be apart of professional organisations at a young age (16/17/18) and then being able to choose college over pro

 

 

Hope this was kind of helpful in describing basketball in NZ and what the article meant. 

TheKamdyMan

TheKamdyMan

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saw an article talking about their U-25  team that is basically their olympic team and the coach's comment kind of made me laugh when he was talking about Tai, Steven Adams, and Rob Loe.

 

"I believe if they stay and play in our system we can actually make them better basketball players than if they go through the US college system."

 

Interesting they dont win more olympic qualifying games if that were the case.  :rolleyes: 

 

The "system" the coach is speaking of is through the New Zealand Breakers. They are a professional team that has only been around for 10 years and the development program has only really kicked in in the last couple years, so thats why the results haven't truly been seen yet.

 

I think that for some players staying in New Zealand is absolutely the best option for their development, getting beaten up by grown men every day will help some players get better compared with perhaps being a star against playing similar aged players. 

 

A couple New Zealand players that come to mind are Tom Abercrombie and Corey Webster (Tai's older brother), both spent a short time at college but did not like it, came home to New Zealand to play pro as a 20/21 year old and are now players that will do some damage on the international scene (and Abercrombie may get NBA looks).

 

One of the bigger recent cases of this is a player called Reuben Te Rangi, he was most likely going to go to a high major college but chose to play as the 11th man on the Breakers professional team as an 18 year old. In the first game he got decent minutes  (last week) he scored 13 points.

 

However players like Steven Adams (Pitt), Rob Loe (St Louis) and Isaac Fotu (Hawaii - Big West FOTY) have done well at colleges and may not have had the same results being a bench warmer in NZ.

 

This is an advantage I think international players have over US players, being able to be apart of professional organisations at a young age (16/17/18) and then being able to choose college over pro

 

 

Hope this was kind of helpful in describing basketball in NZ and what the article meant. 

 

I understood what he meant but for the most part playing the best on a regular basis will get you better.  If it doesnt you probably werent as good as expected before and would have to play at a lower level to shine.  I mean Jonny Flynn couldnt cut it in the NBA after college but is up for MVP of the league the Breakers are in.  Some people just cant make it but at least give them the chance.  Webster, Adams, etc can cut their teeth against the best and if they do well can go to the NBA, D-League etc and if not can still go home with a degree and play pro ball back home.

Hooper

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I hope there's no chance of this NZ coach trying to talk Tai into staying there and not coming here for college.  He factors heavily into our plans.

 

I don't see any chance of that happening. Tai's dad is calling the shots here, and he's the one who pushed heavily for Tai to go to the US to develop his game, just like his father did. His dad knows the type of competition he'll face in the B1G.

 

"I just think he needs to be in an environment where there are a lot of very good players. At the moment, he's dominating out here in New Zealand, so he needs to be in an environment where he can develop more as a player and play with better competition. I'm just trying to let Tai know that it's the best fit for him. But he doesn't know anything about the American school system or anything, so he's just open to his parents' suggestion." -- Tony Webster

bkamler

bkamler

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I was wondering what young Mr. Webster is up to these days.  Well, it appears he is playing (and pretty darn well) in the FIBA U20 league.  Here is an attachment of a box score for a 2/19 game versus an Australian team.

 

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/8/06/95/30/79kFjvitOaYs/

Scoring 25 with four assists probably leading to another 9 points or so means he was responsible for over half of his teams points.

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