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    uneblinstu's postgame chatter: Vol: 10; ed: 19 - @ Penn St.


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    1st Half:

    • That was mostly hot garbage. They played like they just had one of their buddies quit on them.
    • Glynn started off on fire.
    • Sadly, nobody else showed much energy.
    • They went up 15-12 with 11:14 left in the half and only scored 9 points after that the rest of the half.
    • We're not doing much in the paint on either end.
    • Getting lost on pick and rolls way too much. Making it really easy for Penn St.
    • Thomas Allen did do some nice things, but had some costly sloppy play, too.
    • The whole team did.
    • Free throw disparity is discouraging.
    • NU really inefficient from 3. 2nd straight game at least for that.

     

    2nd Half:

    • First segment was more of the same.
    • Second segment, something or someone light a fire under them.
    • Copeland led that charge.
    • Welp, couldn't sustain it.
    • When Jack and Tanner are on the floor together, we lack the skill to play with most big ten teams. They're find spot or roll players, but they probably shouldn't be on the floor together very much.
    • Glynn really cooled off after that hot start.
    • Man, the glimpses we get of Roby are so tantalizing.
    • This game felt a lot like the Purdue game. We had our chances to get back in the game but could never convert when those opportunities came. Penn St. really controlled most of this game.
    • Crispin said at the beginning of the 2nd half that NU looked sluggish in the first half. And that's probably the best way to describe this game from a Husker perspective.
    • Palmer's worst game as a Husker.
    • I like Trueblood's leadership on the bench.
    • The numbers look like NU did better rebounding than it felt like during the game, but that attempt right before Copeland's 3 to cut it to 5 before the under 4 where PSU got 3 chances felt like a dagger.
    • Watson had a good first half of the first half and Copeland had a good 2nd half, but that's about all NU got today. Almost nothing from anybody else.

    ***Watson just hit a 3 to cut it to 2*** (things basically become stream of consciousness from here on.)

    • The zone was effective.
    • Looked like Evan was leading the way in the huddle after that 3 by Watson.
    • One thing NU did really well today was take care of the ball.
    • Then the possession after the free throws where PSU got 3 chances was killer. NU needed to get a rebound there.
    • Now we've got a battle. NU could have folded down 16 and they didn't. That's a good sign to me, win or lose. It's a great sign if they win.
    • Missed a couple of free throws down the stretch that feels big.
    • OOOOOOHHHHH! Gotta grab that air ball.
    • Wow that zone threw PSU out of their rhythm!
    • Evan Taylor with the HUGE steal!
    • Didn't love that shot by Watson at the end of regulation. Hoped they'd have something better drawn up for that spot.

    Overtime:

    • Interesting that he stuck with five that finished regulation.
    • We struggle to rebound out of the zone.
    • Really bad possession all around on the shot clock violation.
    • Our offense really turned to mush in overtime.
    • Gill with a HUGE shot to tie it up!
    • And then Carr makes a great play.
    • And then they couldn't execute the play at the end. Tough loss. Good fight.

     

    A few postgame thoughts:

    • This turned from a lethargic clunker into a character building moment for this team. Hopefully for Jordy, too.
    • NU's slow start cost them big time tonight. They did well to scratch and claw back into this thing, but, the hold they dug in the first 30 minutes or so was just too much. Credit Penn St. for that. And credit NU for battling back, but it looked like the events of the past 24 hours was weighing on them early. Then they snapped out of it and we saw more of what we expected from this team.
    • There are definitely things that Miles can use as learning experiences, but this will be a tough one to swallow for a bunch of reasons.
    • I expect Palmer will rebound. Rough game from him.
    • Again, slow start doomed what could have been a great comeback.
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    1 minute ago, TimSmiles said:

    i'd rather go down losing with my best players in the game. mcveigh is not one of our best players.

     

    1 minute ago, GATA said:

    I get what you're saying, but having him as a threat on the floor maybe helps get us a better look. Those things matter despite his poor night.

     

    Like I said.  I could see playing him, and I could see not playing him.  It didn’t lose us the game.  In fact it got us back in the game.  Hopefully he takes it and learns from it.  McVeigh didn’t do anything wrong tonight.  He helped get us back in the game with some solid defense and steals.

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    25 minutes ago, TimSmiles said:

    unless palmer is hurt, miles has some explaining to do. how does he sit the last 10 min plus overtime?

     

     

    Did you watch him play? He was not good tonight. You sit him and switch to the zone and they bring us back. It’s a tough decision. Do you go back to your regular guy or stick with who brought you all the way back? I think Palmer’s poor play to

    that point made the decision. 

     

    We are not close without Glenn, but he did exactly what the announcing crew was ripping on Penn State for - hero ball. No hero’s for Nebraska tonight. 

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    Carr was 2-17 going into ot...PSU stuck with and he won them the game.  JP should have got some minutes especially after we called a time out at end of regulation.

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    35 minutes ago, 49r said:

    No moral victory here, losing this one sucks because we are pretty clearly the better team and should probably be walking out of there winners tonight, but...

     

    This is going to be a KenPom winner I'm pretty sure we should be in the 70's a little later tonight.

     

    For what it's worth.

     

    Just as I thought.  We moved up to #75 (interestingly, PSU stayed right at #45).  Probably could have been another 4 or 5 spots higher if we had won but it is what it is.  The projected record remains the same:

     

    Projected record: 18-13 9-9

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    5 minutes ago, bigred4 said:

    Carr was 2-17 going into ot...PSU stuck with and he won them the game.  JP should have got some minutes especially after we called a time out at end of regulation.

    exactly. you have to stick with your best guys and trust they will break out of their slump. 

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    4 minutes ago, 49r said:

     

    Just as I thought.  We moved up to #75 (interestingly, PSU stayed right at #45).  Probably could have been another 4 or 5 spots higher if we had won but it is what it is.  The projected record remains the same:

     

    Projected record: 18-13 9-9

    So what does the NCAA look at as far rpi's do they look at KenPom or something else?

     

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    18 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

     

    Maybe because he was 1-9, not playing well at all, and we erased a 16 point lead with him out.

     

    I can see it both ways here.  We got the job done with him out tonight.  That didn’t lose us the game.  Terrible execution the last 16 seconds and overtime.

    And the first half.

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    1 minute ago, hskr4life said:

    We must remember that we weren’t expected to win this game.

    What?  You mean we shouldn't fire the coaches after every loss?

     

    We didn't lose the game at the end.  We loss the game by playing like absolute horse manure the first 33 minutes.

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    10 minutes ago, Bugeaters1 said:

    So what does the NCAA look at as far rpi's do they look at KenPom or something else?

     

     

    Pretty sure it's still almost exclusively the RPI rankings that the committee uses, we're a little higher in the RPI than we are in KenPom, but tonight's result hasn't been factored yet.  We'll likely drop slightly in the NCAA RPI:

     

    RANK PREVIOUS SCHOOL CONFERENCE RECORD ROAD NEUTRAL HOME NON DIV I
    9 7 Purdue Big Ten 16-2 3-0 2-2 11-0 0-0
    20 21 Michigan St. Big Ten 16-2 1-1 4-1 11-0 0-0
    22 26 Ohio St. Big Ten 14-4 2-0 1-3 11-1 0-0
    45 47 Michigan  Big Ten 14-4 2-2 2-1 9-1 1-0
    50 49 Maryland  Big Ten 14-5 1-3 2-1 10-1 1-0
    70 73 Nebraska  Big Ten 12-6 1-4 2-1 9-1 0-0
    74 78 Minnesota  Big Ten 13-5 1-3 2-0 10-2 0-0
    88 82 Northwestern Big Ten 11-7 1-4 1-1 8-2 1-0
    106 108 Indiana  Big Ten 10-7 1-4 1-0 8-3 0-0
    122 122 Penn St. Big Ten 12-6 2-3 1-1 9-2 0-0
    132 137 Wisconsin Big Ten 9-9 1-4 0-2 8-3 0-0
    148 121 Illinois  Big Ten 10-8 0-4 1-2 8-2 1-0
    152 176 Iowa  Big Ten 10-9 1-4 3-2 6-3 0-0
    188 179 Rutgers Big Ten 11-7 0-3 0-0 10-4 1-0

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    Man. So tough to lose that one. If we ever play a whole game we'd beat damn near anyone out there. I love Glynn but have to think there is no way we drew that up at the end of regulation.  He also took the bad shot too early leaving them with another shot before overtime.  Can't decide yet if I think not bringing Palmer back was a good or bad idea. Not happy with the result though, so easy to say he should have been out there.

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    I prefer to have Palmer in the ballgame like some others.  The past isn't always predictive of the future, especially when dealing with extremely small sample size. That being said, I don't care that much we left the same lineup in there, aside from one key time.  At the end of regulation Palmer most certainly should have been in there, when the play should have been to pressure the defense.  If the play is to let Watson just dribble and let one fly late, then we don't need Jack in for Palmer.  We should have the best driver we have on the court as another option to get an easier shot.  That part pisses me off greatly.  We are not horribly coached, but these coaches do not have that very necessary "it factor" that can get us over the top in close ones.  Gotta be able to make key decisions on the fly that are very important. 

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    29 minutes ago, brfrad said:

    What?  You mean we shouldn't fire the coaches after every loss?

     

    We didn't lose the game at the end.  We loss the game by playing like absolute horse manure the first 33 minutes.

     

    We were one Watson make away from toasting the genius of Miles for dusting off McVeigh to fuel the defensive charge at the end.

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    1 minute ago, hhcdimes said:

     

    We were one Watson make away from toasting the genius of Miles for dusting off McVeigh to fuel the defensive charge at the end.

    I think that's fair, but a win almost always excuses bad decisions or bad performances. 

     

    That also doesn't make it right.

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    1 minute ago, hhcdimes said:

     

    We don't have to win all of them but we need to win most of them.

     

    Yep.  What sucks the most was this was one that we could have chalked up in the W column.

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    The result has nothing to do with what I feel is the right lineup or play.  Maybe it does for others.  It is like poker.  If I make a shitty call and slop out with bad pot odds, that doesn't mean I made a good play, just as if Watson slopped out and threw that in wouldn'g have made it a good play either. 

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    5 minutes ago, royalfan said:

    The result has nothing to do with what I feel is the right lineup or play.  Maybe it does for others.  It is like poker.  If I make a shitty call and slop out with bad pot odds, that doesn't mean I made a good play, just as if Watson slopped out and threw that in wouldn'g have made it a good play either. 

    Exactly. Process over results

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    18 minutes ago, GATA said:

    I think that's fair, but a win almost always excuses bad decisions or bad performances. 

     

    That also doesn't make it right.

     

    Does a loss invalidate good decisions or good performances?

     

    Some times a win is just a win and a loss is just a loss.

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    58 minutes ago, brfrad said:

    What?  You mean we shouldn't fire the coaches after every loss?

     

    Nah, he'll be fine. Moos won't fire anybody. He's only been to one game this year. (Can I at least hold onto this for a little bit? ^_^)

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    11 minutes ago, royalfan said:

    The result has nothing to do with what I feel is the right lineup or play.  Maybe it does for others.  It is like poker.  If I make a shitty call and slop out with bad pot odds, that doesn't mean I made a good play, just as if Watson slopped out and threw that in wouldn'g have made it a good play either. 

     

    I think the plan was to get the long two point shot we've seen Watson hit a bunch of times and Penn St blew it up.

     

    We had Gill and McVeigh spreading out the defense in the corners. Roby started up to set a screen and Watkins ate him up. By the time Copeland came up Watson had already decided that he needed to get a shot off. We ended up with a long 3 instead and Watson doesn't make it.

     

    Are you bringing in Palmer there after sitting on the bench for the last however many minutes to take the last shot? If so then sure, he's as good as anyone and maybe he makes it.

    However if you're running a 3 man game like we did I don't think you're using Palmer to set the screen so you basically have Palmer in the corner as a decoy and the result is the same.

     

    Palmer not playing in OT is a different story. 

     

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