Does Jim Delaney and the Big Ten have a reffing problem?

[brfrad]

I downloaded the March Madness Live App.  They have the Western Texas Kentucky game on there.  Started watching it, and was shocked at the amount of travels called.  I wasn't even calling out the travels, but they were calling them.  It was a breath of fresh air. 

 

I think you have to call travel every time they travel.  It would have to start in High School and AAU ball, but eventually, players would become use to traveling being called.

[Blindcheck]

I say they need to call traveling....the jump stop that is started to early, the shuffling the feet...the taking off on a dribble before bouncing the ball...

Since they have taken away the hand checks, you need to call traveling or guarding guys is going to get tougher and tougher....and star players will be sitting on the bench with two early fouls.

Also block shots...don't allow a guy to clobber a guy, just because he got all ball up top....the reason some guys get a block shot is because they totally took a line that clobbers the shooter....it should be clean all the way through.

Balls knocked out of bounds on review....if on review, the officials see that a foul that was not called....i.e. Hitting a wrist instead of a ball...they should give the ball to the team that should have received the foul call....nothing worse than seeing a ball change hands on a reversal when a blatant foul was missed causing the loose ball.

[49r]

Call the travel...please!  We don't want college to become the NBA:

 

[rwmctrofholz]

Make up calls are the ones that really grind my gears.

 

If I'm a coach whose team just benefitted from a fishy call, I call a time out and execute a hockey style line change so that none of my starters get burned on the make up call.  

[rwmctrofholz]

Oh!!  And I'll add this one too as a piggyback on the make up call:

 

A clear over the back, yet the ball goes off the guy who's back is being jumped on.  Instead of calling the over the back, and despite the fact the ball went off the guy who was being crawled up on, the ref makes up for the no call by giving to to the team of the guy who knocked the ball out. 

[Blindcheck]

Oh!! And I'll add this one too as a piggyback on the make up call:

A clear over the back, yet the ball goes off the guy who's back is being jumped on. Instead of calling the over the back, and despite the fact the ball went off the guy who was being crawled up on, the ref makes up for the no call by giving to to the team of the guy who knocked the ball out.

In that case, I would rather they give the ball to the team who was wronged...because the official is basically saying, the guy did not hit the player, he hit the ball....

I just hate it, when they then overturn it...because in review, they have to ignore the foul that was missed

[Nighthawk]

Make up calls are the ones that really grind my gears.

 

If I'm a coach whose team just benefitted from a fishy call, I call a time out and execute a hockey style line change so that none of my starters get burned on the make up call.  

Not to sound untrusting...but how many coaches are actually going to do that?

[hhcscott]

I agree on liberalizing the traveling call. I still remember end of the game, 2008 Baylor:

 

"Then Strowbridge got an open look from behind the arc. The defense closed quickly, and he pump-faked before dribbling and firing a shot.

 

It didn't matter. A referee had called him for traveling.

 

"It felt like I didn't pick up my pivot foot, but that's (the referee's) call," Strowbridge said. "They were looking at it the whole time. I was in the moment of the game. Anything's possible." Link to full story

 

And that is what aggravates me about officiating. I could rewatch the whole game and spot 12 travelling calls, uncalled, that would have meant little in the context of the game, but with 11 seconds left, a debatable travel is called that takes the result out of the players' hands .

 

I think the solution is something the NBA was trying to promote, former players as officials. Middle School principals and insurance agents aren't cutting it.

 

Get guys who finish their college/NBDL/Euro careers into an intensive program that pays a livable wage and work them up the ranks with impartial observations as well as coaches' feedback determining who moves up each division HS/NAIA/D2/D1.

 

Former players would have a much better sense of the flow and positioning on the floor, the athleticism to keep up, and the knowledge of the tricks/embellishments that players use to get unfair advantages.

[Norm Peterson]

Dimes, if I'm not mistaken, just moments before that travel call, they whistled Brandon Ubel for an illegal screen, something that again hadn't been called in the entire game.  It's possible those were in two different games but I was thinking they were in the same game.

 

Edited:  Never mind.  After reading the article, I don't think it was the same game.  The one I'm thinking of happened probably the next season.  Not sure against whom.

[hhcmatt]

Dimes, if I'm not mistaken,

 

You appear to be. That was Scott 

[AuroranHusker]

 

Dimes, if I'm not mistaken,

 

You appear to be. That was Scott 

 

 

There has been a sighting of the Great HHC of the Southwest!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except Normy didn't see it...

[Blindcheck]

I hate rewarding players that have poor footwork and poor fundamentals....being a basketball player in my dat without a lot of athletic ability, I had to master footwork and fundamentals to compete.....

If you allow guys to move without dribbling or move that pivot foot, you are changing the game and giving too much of an advantage to those who haven't mastered good footwork.

Athletic guys are hard enough to guard, but when you let them travel, Palm the ball, jump stop after gathering....you make them unguardable, and unwatchable.

[Silverbacked1]

Same problem I have with that 400 pound lineman.  They talk about how fast the D end is off the ball and is around the tackle before he can make the block.

 

WELL DROP ABOUT 75 POUNDS AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE YOUR FEET!!!!!

 

Okay I'm done now, back to the talk at hand.

[brfrad]

Dimes, if I'm not mistaken, just moments before that travel call, they whistled Brandon Ubel for an illegal screen, something that again hadn't been called in the entire game. It's possible those were in two different games but I was thinking they were in the same game.

Edited: Never mind. After reading the article, I don't think it was the same game. The one I'm thinking of happened probably the next season. Not sure against whom.

IIRC, the Ubel game was against Oregon in Doc's last season. That was a ridiculous call.