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49r, what do the last 4 guys on that list have in common?

 

I'll take a stab here because I'm not sure what you're getting at, but....were they all part of the QC Elite AAU program at one time or another?

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49r, what do the last 4 guys on that list have in common?

 

I'll take a stab here because I'm not sure what you're getting at, but....were they all part of the QC Elite AAU program at one time or another?

 

Dude, I lobbed you a softball and you whiffed.

 

NO!!! They were all perfect for Creighton's system!!!  (And chose us instead.  :P )

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49r, what do the last 4 guys on that list have in common?

 

I'll take a stab here because I'm not sure what you're getting at, but....were they all part of the QC Elite AAU program at one time or another?

 

Dude, I lobbed you a softball and you whiffed.

 

NO!!! They were all perfect for Creighton's system!!!  (And chose us instead.  :P )

 

 

DAMMIT!!!  You're totally right, they are a perfect fit for the "system" McDermott runs, aren't they?  :rolleyes:

 

What's even more damning is that Creighton was in on all of them way before Miles and NU got involved in their recruiting.  Guaranteed.  It must really suck to have "little brother" come in and swoop all these prospects out of your blue nest just like that!   :P

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we're stock piling 6'8 wings, and it seems like just yesterday ade and ryan anderson were our starting big guys at 6'5.

 What's cool about this is that as Roby stated, at 6'8 you can play any position that you can guard.  So various guys may be a 4,5 (maybe a little short for the 5) or a 2,3,4 depending on the build, their quickness and defensive skill.

 

I love the way Miles builds depth, interchangable parts and plans to either come at you in waves or give you match ups you don't like.

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One of the interesting things about this wave of recruits is how it follows on the success we had this past year.  I think everyone understood that you have to build off the successful season by parlaying that success on the floor into success recruiting the following fall.  And Miles has done that in spades this fall.

 

Contrast that with Creighton, for example, against whom we went head-to-head for the last 4 commits we've received.   And this is despite Creighton coming off their best season ever with their best player ever and entering a major conference. I think kids can sense the trajectory of our program here.

 

With our prospects looking very bright for the coming season as well, it makes you really wonder what kind of players we might be able to close on a year from now.  We've been getting a foot in the door with kids we'd never dreamed of in years past.  If this keeps up, this time next year we'll be closing on those kids.

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One of the interesting things about this wave of recruits is how it follows on the success we had this past year.  I think everyone understood that you have to build off the successful season by parlaying that success on the floor into success recruiting the following fall.  And Miles has done that in spades this fall.

 

Contrast that with Creighton, for example, against whom we went head-to-head for the last 4 commits we've received.   And this is despite Creighton coming off their best season ever with their best player ever and entering a major conference. I think kids can sense the trajectory of our program here.

 

With our prospects looking very bright for the coming season as well, it makes you really wonder what kind of players we might be able to close on a year from now.  We've been getting a foot in the door with kids we'd never dreamed of in years past.  If this keeps up, this time next year we'll be closing on those kids.

Yeah but they have soccer!!

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Contrast that with Creighton, for example, against whom we went head-to-head for the last 4 commits we've received.   And this is despite Creighton coming off their best season ever with their best player ever and entering a major conference. I think kids can sense the trajectory of our program here.

 

 

Watson was definitely head to head.

I'd consider Arop but I'd classify both Arop and Roby as us beating everyone to the punch. We know what we want to do and we're identifying the guys we think will work for our system.

We went head to head vs Iowa for Morrow. You can't go head to head vs someone not in the game.

Creighton sends out offers like they're AOL CDs so it's not surprising to see them mentioned with every single guy we sign.

 

I'd have to do some searching, but this might be the first time on the HHC that the Big East has been referred to as a "Major Conference"

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One of the interesting things about this wave of recruits is how it follows on the success we had this past year.  I think everyone understood that you have to build off the successful season by parlaying that success on the floor into success recruiting the following fall.  And Miles has done that in spades this fall.

 

Contrast that with Creighton, for example, against whom we went head-to-head for the last 4 commits we've received.   And this is despite Creighton coming off their best season ever with their best player ever and entering a major conference. I think kids can sense the trajectory of our program here.

 

With our prospects looking very bright for the coming season as well, it makes you really wonder what kind of players we might be able to close on a year from now.  We've been getting a foot in the door with kids we'd never dreamed of in years past.  If this keeps up, this time next year we'll be closing on those kids.

 

The bolded part...that's a little bit of a stretch, Norm.

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One of the interesting things about this wave of recruits is how it follows on the success we had this past year.  I think everyone understood that you have to build off the successful season by parlaying that success on the floor into success recruiting the following fall.  And Miles has done that in spades this fall.

 

Contrast that with Creighton, for example, against whom we went head-to-head for the last 4 commits we've received.   And this is despite Creighton coming off their best season ever with their best player ever and entering a major conference. I think kids can sense the trajectory of our program here.

 

With our prospects looking very bright for the coming season as well, it makes you really wonder what kind of players we might be able to close on a year from now.  We've been getting a foot in the door with kids we'd never dreamed of in years past.  If this keeps up, this time next year we'll be closing on those kids.

 

The bolded part...that's a little bit of a stretch, Norm.

 

I should have put it in quotation marks.

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Contrast that with Creighton, for example, against whom we went head-to-head for the last 4 commits we've received.   And this is despite Creighton coming off their best season ever with their best player ever and entering a major conference. I think kids can sense the trajectory of our program here.

 

 

Watson was definitely head to head.

I'd consider Arop but I'd classify both Arop and Roby as us beating everyone to the punch. We know what we want to do and we're identifying the guys we think will work for our system.

We went head to head vs Iowa for Morrow. You can't go head to head vs someone not in the game.

Creighton sends out offers like they're AOL CDs so it's not surprising to see them mentioned with every single guy we sign.

 

I'd have to do some searching, but this might be the first time on the HHC that the Big East has been referred to as a "Major Conference"

 

Roby had a CU offer.  Yeah, we might have beaten them to the punch, but he still got an offer from them and still committed to us a month later, with more than a year to go before he can officially sign.

 

And, as far as Morrow, I'm just going by what they posted on their board.  According to a poster over there who seems to be the guy that the others regard as being in-the-know on recruiting matters, "The more I dig, the more I find that the Jays are one of the leaders for the top 100 forward out of Illinois."  So they, at least, felt they were among the leaders for Morrow.  And that was posted 4/30/14.

 

I wasn't trying to make this about Creighton.  But bringing Creighton into the discussion is illustrative of the great job of recruiting that Miles has done and how he has parlayed the successful season we had into recruiting gains this fall.  When we can draw parallels or contrasts between us and another school in close proximity that felt they also had a good season, it really helps to drive home the point.

 

I don't see how you can score it as anything but 4 straight recruiting wins over another school with whom we will typically be in competition for recruits.  I think it says something that in four consecutive cases in which we were in direct competition for a particular prospect, WE got the commit.  Forget that it's Creighton for a little bit and just hit the bottom line:  Miles is killing it on the recruiting trail.  That's the upshot.

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Contrast that with Creighton, for example, against whom we went head-to-head for the last 4 commits we've received.   And this is despite Creighton coming off their best season ever with their best player ever and entering a major conference. I think kids can sense the trajectory of our program here.

 

 

Watson was definitely head to head.

I'd consider Arop but I'd classify both Arop and Roby as us beating everyone to the punch. We know what we want to do and we're identifying the guys we think will work for our system.

We went head to head vs Iowa for Morrow. You can't go head to head vs someone not in the game.

Creighton sends out offers like they're AOL CDs so it's not surprising to see them mentioned with every single guy we sign.

 

I'd have to do some searching, but this might be the first time on the HHC that the Big East has been referred to as a "Major Conference"

 

Roby had a CU offer.  Yeah, we might have beaten them to the punch, but he still got an offer from them and still committed to us a month later, with more than a year to go before he can officially sign.

 

And, as far as Morrow, I'm just going by what they posted on their board.  According to a poster over there who seems to be the guy that the others regard as being in-the-know on recruiting matters, "The more I dig, the more I find that the Jays are one of the leaders for the top 100 forward out of Illinois."  So they, at least, felt they were among the leaders for Morrow.  And that was posted 4/30/14.

 

I wasn't trying to make this about Creighton.  But bringing Creighton into the discussion is illustrative of the great job of recruiting that Miles has done and how he has parlayed the successful season we had into recruiting gains this fall.  When we can draw parallels or contrasts between us and another school in close proximity that felt they also had a good season, it really helps to drive home the point.

 

I don't see how you can score it as anything but 4 straight recruiting wins over another school with whom we will typically be in competition for recruits.  I think it says something that in four consecutive cases in which we were in direct competition for a particular prospect, WE got the commit.  Forget that it's Creighton for a little bit and just hit the bottom line:  Miles is killing it on the recruiting trail.  That's the upshot.

 

 

Norm, they'll be the first ones to tell you that they've been out-recruiting us for years and despite some nice pick-ups this fall by Miles they still out-recruited us again this year even after the best season we've ever had (is what they believe), because some Oregon re-tread decided to walk on and blah, blah, blah.

 

Don't be mistaken because they are now in the big time (apparently they still believe today's Big East is the same as your father's Big East) and have a strong, rich history of consistent winning and championships, and yes even the most ardent of their supporters will freely admit that they haven't reached the blue-blood level (yet), they are in the next group of historically important hoops programs in the country and 17,000 fans and the system McDermott runs and beer and *explosions*....

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Kreklow transferred from Cal, not Oregon, after transferring to Cal from Missouri, where his parents are volleyball coaches.  That's an interesting story.  I wonder what the deal is there.  Here's a 3-point specialist who averages something like 31% from three?  Wooo, color me impressed.  There must be some reason he's bounced around and ended up having to walk on somewhere.  Probably because he's a career 31% 3-point shooter.

 

As to Creighton fans being convinced that they out-recruit us, that might be changing.  Again, it wasn't my intention to make this about Creighton but it's hard not to draw comparisons simply for the sake of evaluating where we stand at the present time.  (In order to evaluate where you stand, you have to compare yourself to others around you.) 

 

At any rate, over on their board, they have a thread about recruiting concerns, and the general tone is that they feel pretty dissatisfied with their current class.  I'm not going to go grab quotes, but that's the basic tone.  Satisfaction with their current class depended on landing guys they haven't landed.  I don't want to rub their noses in it, but I think some of them are experiencing a lot of angst over how a place that calls itself "Shooter U" could be struggling to land any shooters.

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and Colorado seems to be pinning 100% of their 2015 class hopes on Tyler Dorsey, the Arizona decommit, but landing him will likely be a long shot for them.  It's looking like UConn, Kansas, Arizona State and Cal are all ahead of Colorado in that sweepstakes.

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I wasn't trying to make this about Creighton.  

 

If you're referring to everything before post 4 on this thread, that's an accurate statement.

 

No, it's an accurate statement period.  I think I've made it pretty clear.  You cannot evaluate recruiting success in a vacuum.  You do it by comparing where you are with where others, similarly situated, are.

 

If our last 4 commits had all been pursued by Iowa and we'd beaten out Iowa for all of them, I'd have pointed out that we'd beaten Iowa for 4 straight commits.  But the thread -- and the intent behind it, which I don't see how you think you can judge -- wouldn't have been about Iowa.  It would still have been about us.  I was remarking on what I think is pretty substantial forward strides in recruiting FOR US. 

 

Poo poo it all you want but the fact that we won 4 straight head-to-head battles says something.   About US.  (And maybe about them, too, but that wasn't my focus.  You didn't see me doing any endzone dances over the recruits they've missed on.)

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Well, in a good faith attempt to steer the conversation away from a stale topic, we're way out recruiting another CU, too:  http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/38/class/2015

 

And Iowa:  http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2294/class/2015

Stale topic?  Is Nebraska basketball recruiting a stale topic?

 

 

no, it is always fresh.  Sorry, poor choice of words on my part.

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